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Iraqi Insurgents Seek Talks With US
AFP via Arab News ^ | 2005 Jul 5

Posted on 07/04/2005 5:35:56 PM PDT by Wiz

DUBAI, 5 July 2005 — A newly named spokesman for two Iraqi insurgent groups yesterday asked the US Congress to make an “official” offer for negotiations with Washington, according to an interview broadcast on Al-Jazeera television. “We will accept nothing but an official initiative from the US Congress with a precise timetable and a binding decision. Let this be clear,” Ibrahim Yusef Al-Shammari said, speaking on behalf of the Islamic Army in Iraq and the Army of the Mujahedeen.

An unverified statement posted on the Internet in the name of the two insurgent groups announced the appointment of Shammari as joint spokesman following Washington’s admission it had held talks with rebel representatives.

Asked if secret negotiations had begun between rebels and US authorities in Iraq in an attempt to negotiate an end to the insurgency, Shammari denied any dialogue with US forces but was less clear as to whether unofficial contacts had been made.

“I deny the existence of a dialogue... All initiatives on these negotiations will be done according to our political program... and no contact of this kind has taken place directly or indirectly with the Americans,” he said to the Qatar-based channel.

“Negotiations are a part of our political program and they are not happening at the moment because of the situation on the ground... the United States doesn’t want to negotiate but they want scorched-earth politics,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at arabnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alshammari; iraq; islamist; oif; terrorism; terrorist
When the enemy asks for negotiations, it often means the enemy is exhausted.
1 posted on 07/04/2005 5:35:57 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz

Wars are finalized when one side outlasts the other.


2 posted on 07/04/2005 5:36:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Becki; Dog; Deetes; Gucho; iso; ravingnutter; Straight Vermonter; TexKat

ping


3 posted on 07/04/2005 5:37:00 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz
We don't need no stinkin' talks. They drop their weapons and surrender. That's all they need to do.
4 posted on 07/04/2005 5:37:20 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: Wiz

I don't trust them. They talk from both sides of the mouth. They smile, shake hands, and kill you when you turn your back.


5 posted on 07/04/2005 5:38:09 PM PDT by StuLongIsland
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To: Wiz
Obviously they don't understand how our system works.

The PRESIDENT is in charge of both foreign policy and military affairs.

Congress don't know nothin' about nothin'... in this or any other matter.

6 posted on 07/04/2005 5:38:55 PM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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To: Wiz
“We will accept nothing but an official initiative from the US Congress with a precise timetable and a binding decision. Let this be clear,”

Sure, no problem, coming right up.

7 posted on 07/04/2005 5:39:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Wiz

When the enemy asks for negotiations, it often means the enemy is exhausted.
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When the enemy asks for negotiations with the military you are right. When the enemy asks for negotiations with Congress, it means they have identified the weak link of underminers in the US government. They may be exhausted too, but it shows they have listened to Durbin, Hagel, Pelosi, Reid etal. who I am sure are shocked, shocked that they enemy views them as the weak link.


8 posted on 07/04/2005 5:39:34 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Wiz

The Islamokazis can go pound sand.


9 posted on 07/04/2005 5:40:00 PM PDT by steveegg (The regularily-scheduled tagline will not be seen until the FReepathon is over. HURRY UP!!!)
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To: Wiz
Hmmmmm.....they deny any sort of dialogue with us......then demand a dialogue with us. Sounds like they wanna save what little face we haven't blown off yet.Personally, I think they just wanna go home now.


10 posted on 07/04/2005 5:40:05 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Qu)
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To: Wiz
Hmmmmm.....they deny any sort of dialogue with us......then demand a dialogue with us. Sounds like they wanna save what little face we haven't blown off yet.Personally, I think they just wanna go home now.


11 posted on 07/04/2005 5:40:13 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Wiz

Stop attacking our troops and turn in your weapons, then we'll talk. Until then, be prepared to meet allah face-to-face.


12 posted on 07/04/2005 5:41:40 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: StuLongIsland
I don't trust them. They talk from both sides of the mouth. They smile, shake hands, and kill you when you turn your back.

All perfectly legitimate forms of struggle in Jihad, according to the Koran. Make treaties and break them when it suits your purposes, Muslims are advised. I don't buy a single line of their crap now that I know where they are coming from.

Surrender must be total and unconditional. Any other agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on.

13 posted on 07/04/2005 5:41:57 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: Wiz

When the enemy asks for negotiations, it often means the enemy is exhausted.

Usually this is seized upon by the democrats in an effort to allow them to regroup and rearm.

Another tactic from our good friends on the left, it's called "Fighting while negociating", in which one side
(the Terrs) "continue the struggle" while the other,
"must abide by the truce".

We have seen this how many times?
Watch what the left does, how long before calls for "talks"
start?


14 posted on 07/04/2005 5:42:24 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Wiz
We will accept nothing but an official initiative from the US Congress with a precise timetable and a binding decision. Let this be clear,” Ibrahim Yusef Al-Shammari said, speaking on behalf of the Islamic Army in Iraq and the Army of the Mujahedeen.

These dirtbags are insane! They can burn in the fires of Hades with the rest of their terrorist buddies!

15 posted on 07/04/2005 5:43:57 PM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: JLS
Exactly right.

And you can bet that a Democrat delegation will meet with these folks, then return to proclaim them only 'patriots' in their own land, as they fight against occupation.

Together with the MSM, they will begin a drumbeat for withdraw from Iraq. Bush wont listen, and this will be the theme of the 2008 elections.
16 posted on 07/04/2005 5:44:10 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Wiz

Great! that means they are exhuasted. I cannot think of a better time to kill the remaining terrorists (I will never refer to them what the MSM calls "insurgents")!


17 posted on 07/04/2005 5:45:29 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: Wiz

The only negotiation should be "What do you want on your tonbstone."....and I ain't talking pizza!!


18 posted on 07/04/2005 5:45:54 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.teamamericapac.org)
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To: airborne

Most Democrats and some Republicans (like Hagel) will ask to sign on the dotted line of surrender (withdrawal).


19 posted on 07/04/2005 5:46:23 PM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: kezekiel

Agreed. The only "conditions" that need to be negotiated are when and where we will take their unconditional surrender.

We've been burned badly by taking other courses of action in the past. Nothing but total, unconditional, absolute surrender should even be considered.


20 posted on 07/04/2005 5:46:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Wiz
We will accept nothing but an official initiative from the US Congress with a precise timetable and a binding decision

Okay, who put them on the fax list for the DNC talking points?

21 posted on 07/04/2005 5:47:06 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (When can we stop pretending that the Left doesn't by and large hate America?)
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To: kezekiel
I don't buy a single line of their crap

They should be called Errorists rather than Terrorists. Never have so many been wrong about so much for so long.

22 posted on 07/04/2005 5:48:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Spktyr
We've been burned badly by taking other courses of action in the past. Nothing but total, unconditional, absolute surrender should even be considered.

Considering their tactics of prentending to surrender, I say anhillation of the terrorists (or what the MSM calls "insurgents") is the best course of action.

23 posted on 07/04/2005 5:48:57 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: Wiz

Has anyone seen John Kerry?


24 posted on 07/04/2005 5:52:24 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: StuLongIsland


Kind of like the Democrats...


25 posted on 07/04/2005 5:53:43 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: Wiz
All the terrorist loving radicals will come flocking to this...

Remember the negotiations, though with Arafat - Arafat would blatantly lie during the negotiations, renege on promises and kept moving his demands back. When the Islamoterrost says "negotiations" it doesn't have the same concept that a person who believes that one's word is worth anything would have.

And that is the rhetorical trap that the lefties will try to force us into.
26 posted on 07/04/2005 6:03:00 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: Wiz
We will accept nothing but an official initiative from the US Congress with a precise timetable and a binding decision

Viet Nam, Paris peace talks, playing us for patsies while buying time.

Sorry, morons, you picked a fight with the wrong president, and our congress can't help you this time.

27 posted on 07/04/2005 6:15:12 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: JLS

When the enemy asks for negotiations with Congress, it means they have identified the weak link of underminers in the US government. They may be exhausted too, but it shows they have listened to Durbin, Hagel, Pelosi, Reid etal. who I am sure are shocked, shocked that they enemy views them as the weak link.
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If Terrorists would negotiate with Durbin, Hagel, Pelosi, Reid etal, that would be like negotiating with their own Political wing.


28 posted on 07/04/2005 7:10:36 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: Wiz

While they may well begetting exhausted, it would be a big mistake to validate them by recognizing them as a negotiating entity.


29 posted on 07/04/2005 7:15:52 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Wiz

An attempt to drive a wedge between a resolute President and a wavering Congress.


30 posted on 07/04/2005 7:20:58 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Wiz

Negotiation my a.s.......you can't negotiate with BEHEADING islamofacists, you ONLY made sure you KILL THEM ALL, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES!!!


31 posted on 07/04/2005 7:25:03 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Wiz

They seem to be asking for Kennedy's solution. They are desperate; he is treasonous.


32 posted on 07/04/2005 7:30:09 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Wiz

Sure they want to deal with congress. They think congress is made up of guys like Durbin and Kennedy who they think are fools and cowards.


33 posted on 07/04/2005 7:39:25 PM PDT by McGavin999 (i)
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To: Wiz

Let's not have a sellout by members of Congress. A little more fighting and these "insurgents" will be a lot more reasonable.


34 posted on 07/04/2005 7:42:16 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Wiz

We do not negotiate with terrorists. We KILL terrorists.

That is all they need to know. Period!


35 posted on 07/04/2005 8:13:14 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wiz
Ibrahim Yusef Al-Shammari

Clearly this man is getting the DNC talking points faxes.
36 posted on 07/04/2005 8:23:51 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: cripplecreek

Screw 'em. Hit them as harder than ever, 24 hours a day for a week. See what kind of negotiations they would like then. This appeal for negotiations is nothing but an insult and should be rewarded as such.


37 posted on 07/04/2005 9:04:20 PM PDT by jblair
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To: Keith in Iowa
Excellent. When the other side says that they are willing to negotiate, that means that Z-Man is on his own. Lots of big talk and demands from the Sunnis, but all of a sudden the Al Qaeda are feeling awfully lonely right now.

The Sunnis want their cut of the oil money. They see the price of Saudi Light on the spot market. They want in on the action.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

38 posted on 07/04/2005 9:10:44 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Pukin Dog
And you can bet that a Democrat delegation will meet with these folks, then return

Or maybe they won't return at all. Hostages have been taken in that area; the latest being an Egyptian ambassador.

Picture Ted Kennedy or Dick Durbin being held captive by these terrorists. It'd be a crying shame, wouldn't it?

39 posted on 07/04/2005 9:34:13 PM PDT by Dave Olson
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