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War protester sets flag on fire
Riverside County Press-Enterprise ^ | 04 July, 2005 | SARAH BURGE / The Press-Enterprise

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:25:07 PM PDT by Salem

War protester sets flag on fire

MURRIETA: Lee Henry Vollick, 19, is attacked by concertgoers, then arrested, his mother says.

By SARAH BURGE / The Press-Enterprise

MURRIETA - After a 19-year-old war protester set fire to an American flag at the Murrieta city birthday bash Saturday evening, angry bystanders attacked him before he could say a word, his mother said Sunday.

Police said Lee Henry Vollick, of Murrieta, set an American flag ablaze around 7:55 p.m. in the middle of a crowded concert at the California Oaks Sports Park.

The protester's mother, Barbara Vollick, said her son was trying to make a statement against the war in Iraq, not against the United States.

"He's just a college student being crazy," she said.

Murrieta police Sgt. Dennis Vrooman said, "He was basically a one-man demonstration."

He was trying to get others to join him, Vrooman said, "but he wasn't getting any cooperation."

Vollick said her son was upset about President Bush's speech on Iraq last week.

"He's very angry that our young men are dying," Vollick said.

"He didn't even get to say anything," she said, alleging that about a half-dozen people attacked him and pulled the flag away. One man punched him in the face, she said.

Vollick said Sunday her son wasn't in any condition to speak with the press.

"He's actually in a lot of pain right now." She said his face was cut, his neck and back were hurt, and he had welts on his wrists from handcuffs police placed on him when he was arrested.

Vollick was up all night in jail, she said, and he wasn't released until nearly 10 a.m. Sunday morning.

According to a police news release, a Murrieta police officer approached Vollick because the fire posed a hazard to the crowd. The fire burned out quickly, but the officer tried to grab Vollick anyway.

Vollick resisted and tried to break away from his grasp, the release said. With the help of several bystanders, including two off-duty Murrieta police officers, the officer brought Vollick to the ground.

Vollick was arrested on suspicion of resisting a police officer, disturbing a public assembly and inciting a riot. Vollick's mother said he was just trying to stand up, not fight the officers.

"He was yelling, 'You're hurting me,' " she said. "He has a bad back."

Vrooman said, "From my understanding, there were quite a few people in the crowd who were displeased at what he was doing." When the police took the teen him away, Vrooman said, "people applauded."

Vollick said her son was a student at Mt. San Jacinto College for a semester and a half, but had to take time off for health reasons.

She said he had planned to go back to school in August or join the Navy.

"He loves the military," Vollick said, adding that he was a Young Marine for two years when they lived in San Diego. "He wants to serve his country, but he doesn't want to kill people."

Reach Sarah Burge at (951) 368-9642 or sburge@pe.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: day; dummy; flag; flagburning; independance; july4; oldglory; patriotism; riverside
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"When the police took the teen him away, Vrooman said, 'people applauded.' "

That brought a smile to my FReeper face. Also that the local cops gave him an "owee."

His mother's response speaks volumes about his ability to logically and analytically think his actions through.


1 posted on 07/04/2005 6:25:08 PM PDT by Salem
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HAPPY July 4th!







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2 posted on 07/04/2005 6:26:39 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem
"He loves the military," Vollick said, adding that he was a Young Marine for two years when they lived in San Diego. "He wants to serve his country, but he doesn't want to kill people."

Well now...that explains everything.

Vollick is an idiot.

3 posted on 07/04/2005 6:28:12 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Short CYMI............)
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To: Salem
He has a bad back...

I bet it's really bad now! Ha ha!

4 posted on 07/04/2005 6:29:07 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: Salem

he was a Young Marine for two years when they lived in San Diego.

Doesn't sound like he learned anything.


5 posted on 07/04/2005 6:30:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Salem

Outstanding thread! That is one dumb mother -- her son seems short on brains as well. Liberals are going nuts after the President's speech! :)


6 posted on 07/04/2005 6:31:49 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: Salem
Sounds like this guy got a good life lesson. Actions have consequences, free speech or not. Happy 4th all.

SIC
7 posted on 07/04/2005 6:32:10 PM PDT by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS ("Our responses to terrorist acts should make the world gasp." - When Devils Walk the Earth)
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To: All

Burning the flag is a violent act...he got what he deserved...


8 posted on 07/04/2005 6:32:29 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Salem

Personally I was happy to read this. Appears being anti American and anti war wasn't as popular as he thought it was.


9 posted on 07/04/2005 6:33:55 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: tet68
"Doesn't sound like he learned anything."

Wonder if the NAVY would take him, bad back and the I.Q. of cottage cheese and all.

10 posted on 07/04/2005 6:34:03 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

Wait a minute. He has such a bad back that he can't be handcuffed but he wants to join the military again? Most Marines don't run around burning flags and talk about joining the Navy. Maybe this guy should change his last name to Enigma.</p>


11 posted on 07/04/2005 6:34:32 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Salem

He was trying to get others to join him, Vrooman said, "but he wasn't getting any cooperation."

"He didn't even get to say anything," she said.....Vollick said Sunday her son wasn't in any condition to speak with the press.

"He's actually in a lot of pain right now." She said Vollick was up all night in jail, she said
8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

too funny, LOL


12 posted on 07/04/2005 6:34:46 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: PhiKapMom
"That is one dumb mother -- her son seems short on brains as well."

Like mother, like son.  !

13 posted on 07/04/2005 6:35:04 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: isthisnickcool

"He has a bad back..."

And, he doesn't want to kill anyone (not that any sane person does, but we ARE talking about the military)....

But he still wants to join the Navy.

Yup, idiot.

You know, "freedom of speech" does NOT mean that your speech won't get reactions you don't like. It simply means that the Feds won't censor you (even if they want to). In this case, the crowd simply exercised their first amendment right to express their reaction to this idiot.



14 posted on 07/04/2005 6:35:04 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Salem
"He didn't even get to say anything," she said, alleging that about a half-dozen people attacked him and pulled the flag away. One man punched him in the face, she said. Vollick said Sunday her son wasn't in any condition to speak with the press. "He's actually in a lot of pain right now." She said his face was cut, his neck and back were hurt, and he had welts on his wrists from handcuffs police placed on him when he was arrested.

Who knew this was going to turn out to be one of those "feel good" stories?

15 posted on 07/04/2005 6:35:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: tet68


I think he learned if he burns the flag, free speech or not, he gets thrown a beating...and deservedly so.


16 posted on 07/04/2005 6:36:40 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: Salem
Huh hu huh huh. Dumba$$. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
17 posted on 07/04/2005 6:36:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Salem

Consider your audience.


18 posted on 07/04/2005 6:38:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Americanexpat
Personally I was happy to read this. Appears being anti American and anti war wasn't as popular as he thought it was.

He probably watches a lot of Old Media.

19 posted on 07/04/2005 6:38:40 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Salem

Wow! This twit couldn't get any cooperation for his stunt from Californians? I'm speeechless.


20 posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:53 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: in hoc signo vinces
I remember a few years back seeing a video of some hippie, he was setting the flag on fire. Out of the blue a Oriental young lady around 20 years old, took the flag and put it out.
I felt very proud that day of her.
21 posted on 07/04/2005 6:40:40 PM PDT by since1868
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To: Salem

Vollick said Sunday her son wasn't in any condition to speak with the press.
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

He didn't even get to say anything," she said, alleging that about a half-dozen people attacked him and pulled the flag away. One man punched him in the face, she said.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and he had welts on his wrists from handcuffs police placed on him when he was arrested.

Pantywaist!!!

She said he had planned to go back to school in August or join the Navy!

Oh well you little maggot, you blew that one, no branch of the military will take your a$$ now.


Happy 4th folks

John Danforth
SFC U.S. Army (ret)


22 posted on 07/04/2005 6:41:44 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Moonman62

Speaking of old media I see that MSNBC took particular pleasure in displaying anti American comic books and posters today. The timing was suspicious to say the least.


23 posted on 07/04/2005 6:42:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Salem

May not fit the thread but I needed to post it anyway.

24 posted on 07/04/2005 6:42:30 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Salem

I do enjoy reading good news occasionally.


25 posted on 07/04/2005 6:42:41 PM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: sofaman

"Burning the flag is a violent act."

Amen, sir. That says it all. Flag burning is not free speech, it is a willful, malevolent ACT!


26 posted on 07/04/2005 6:43:24 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: freeangel
"Wow! This twit couldn't get any cooperation for his stunt from Californians? I'm speechless."

In spite of our state reputation, Riverside County is considered very Conservative. One small oasis in the midst of a vaste sewer of ideas.

27 posted on 07/04/2005 6:43:42 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem
After a 19-year-old war protester set fire to an American flag at the Murrieta city..was a student at Mt. San Jacinto College for a semester and a half..that he was a Young Marine for two years when they lived in San Diego.

...Something strange about the timeline, marine 2 years, 1 year post H.S. education, 19 y.o. anti-war protester..joined the marines @ 16 y.o.???

28 posted on 07/04/2005 6:44:18 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Moonman62
"...one of those "feel good" stories?"

Heehee!  !

29 posted on 07/04/2005 6:44:34 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

How 'bout a little fire, dumbbell?

30 posted on 07/04/2005 6:45:39 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: SwatTeam
"I do enjoy reading good news occasionally."

Indeed.  !

31 posted on 07/04/2005 6:46:13 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Moonman62
He probably watches a lot of Old Media.

and takes lots of drugs

32 posted on 07/04/2005 6:46:43 PM PDT by since1868
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To: Salem

did he have a burn permit?


33 posted on 07/04/2005 6:46:59 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Salem
Wonder if the NAVY would take him, bad back and the I.Q. of cottage cheese and all.

I represent that!

34 posted on 07/04/2005 6:47:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Salem

Now if only that could happen every time some idiot decides to burn the flag (or when illegal aliens decide to boo and shout down the governor of California for that matter...can't think of a better place to apprehend and deport them :o)


35 posted on 07/04/2005 6:47:42 PM PDT by TheBigPicture
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To: JohnD9207
Truly A Happy Event....HAPPY 4TH of JULY!!!! John! ..Thanks to All Serving/Fmr. Armerd Services Members. :D
36 posted on 07/04/2005 6:49:25 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass

"Young Marines" are sort of like sea cadets, eagle scouts etc. Not really Marines but many go on to enlist.


37 posted on 07/04/2005 6:49:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: skinkinthegrass
..Something strange about the timeline, marine 2 years, 1 year post H.S. education, 19 y.o. anti-war protester..joined the marines @ 16 y.o.???

X'actly. Momma's lyin' through her teeth.

38 posted on 07/04/2005 6:49:46 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Salem

You're HURTING me!!! Oh, you brutes.

Dumbass deserved something a little more serious. Mom, with typical liberal cowardice didn't do anything but stand on the sidelines whining and wringing her hands.

Oh well. When you don't believe in anything, then everything is acceptable.


39 posted on 07/04/2005 6:51:25 PM PDT by MarkBsnr
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To: MarkBsnr
"You're HURTING me!!! Oh, you brutes.

Dumbass deserved something a little more serious...."

Probably would have gotten something more serious if the cops hadn't been on scene. What an idiotic thing to do on the 4th of July when the backlash against the left's daily nonsense at all levels is still escalating

40 posted on 07/04/2005 6:56:36 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem
She said he had planned to go back to school in August or join the Navy. "He loves the military," Vollick said, adding that he was a Young Marine for two years when they lived in San Diego. "He wants to serve his country, but he doesn't want to kill people." Y'know, I don't reckon this lil mama's boy ever figured out what the armed forces are for. Or what the flag means to a lot of red blooded Americans.

...but i'll bet he doesn't try THAT any time soon!

BTW, anybody know why he would only have been in the Corps for *2* years prior? That's not your standard term of enlistment these days.

41 posted on 07/04/2005 6:58:18 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Wet Burqa Contest Winner)
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To: Titan Magroyne
Nevermind, seems my question was answered in post # 37. Still, whatta maroon!
42 posted on 07/04/2005 7:01:22 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Wet Burqa Contest Winner)
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To: Moonman62
one of those "feel good" stories?

Yup. ;-)

43 posted on 07/04/2005 7:02:15 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: cripplecreek
This flag burner used a little to much lighter fluid. hehehe!

 

That's ASAP karma!

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com
44 posted on 07/04/2005 7:03:49 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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To: Salem
"He didn't even get to say anything," she said, alleging that about a half-dozen people attacked him and pulled the flag away. One man punched him in the face, she said.

Poor baby. /s

45 posted on 07/04/2005 7:07:37 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife
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To: Titan Magroyne

I am thinking Momma is so stupid she thinks the Boy scouts or the Sea scouts are the Young marines.

This kid learned a lesson that day he wont get in College.

You mess with the bull you get the horn. Too bad someone didnt slap the crap out of Momma too --she knew what he had in mind. No way he could have gone there with a flag and matches and Momma didnt know what the plan was.


46 posted on 07/04/2005 7:10:02 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife
"He's just a college student being crazy," she said.

I think that's more than crazy.............

47 posted on 07/04/2005 7:14:25 PM PDT by blueberry12
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To: elcid1970; sofaman
"Burning the flag is a violent act."

Amen, sir. That says it all. Flag burning is not free speech, it is a willful, malevolent ACT!

With all due respect, you are wrong. I may despise someone who burns the flag -- I loathe such a person and would absolutely scream at them as being un- and anti-American.

But the 1st Amendment is unique in the world and is what sets us apart. "I may hate what you say but will die for your right to say it" is one of the fundemental principles of our Republic.

We can ridicule and disagree all we want, but Flag Burning, as dismaying as it may be, MUST be allowed, else all we hold dear has become meaningless.

48 posted on 07/04/2005 7:16:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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To: armymarinemom
...change last name to Enigma?

How 'bout RIDDLE wrapped in a MYSTERY inside an ENIGMA?

49 posted on 07/04/2005 7:18:57 PM PDT by AWestCoaster (Bush/Congress - CLOSE BORDER! ! Either your for us, or against us.)
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To: skinkinthegrass
He was in the Young Marines. Think they start young-Junior High, maybe.
50 posted on 07/04/2005 7:22:25 PM PDT by madison10
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