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Music Preview: Toby Keith might not be for the war, but he's behind our soldiers
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | June 30, 2005 | Ed Measley

Posted on 07/05/2005 4:21:15 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Toby Keith is tearing up the country charts this very minute with a smile-inducing sing-along that hangs its chorus on the line "I ain't as good as I once was/But I'm as good once as I ever was."

-SNIP-

"I completely supported the Afghanistan thing 100 percent," he says. "You've got a guy dealing guns and crack in your neighborhood by your kids' school, you call the police. You want 'em to go in, bust it up and get the bad guy, right? Well, when somebody flies planes into buildings, the armed forces may be the police to go do it, but you still want 'em to go get the bad guy. So all of a sudden, because of my song, which is 100 percent all about 9/11 -- it has nothing to do with the Iraq War -- I get lumped into that anyway, but that's part of the baggage you've gotta deal with. It comes with the territory."

He never supported the war in Iraq, he says, although a recent trip to Europe may have changed his mind.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: countrymusic; iraq; military; music; tobykeith; war
The most interesting part of this article is toward the middle, in which TK recalls a meeting with some top European military brass (even France) who all acknowledge that Saddam Hussein "had to go" and that "they all agree, and some of them, even to the point of using the word embarrassed, said, 'We agree with what y'all are doing but politically, our country won't let us involve ourselves.'"
1 posted on 07/05/2005 4:21:18 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Very good article. Thanks for posting.

I don't agree with Toby's portrayal of the war in Iraq as a mess, but I respect him immensely for being able to set aside his personal feelings and support our armed forces 100%.

2 posted on 07/05/2005 4:26:40 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: lysie; MozartLover

Ping


3 posted on 07/05/2005 4:29:54 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*)
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To: Coop

Actually, most of what he says is supportive of the Iraq war, especially the shot at CNN and the comments of the other countries' military leaders. Also, he gets a thinly veiled compliment of Bush in too.


4 posted on 07/05/2005 4:32:49 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Coop

I keep hearing that "you can't say that you support the troops if you don't support their mission." Which does make sense. It's like saying "You're doing something bad but doing it well."


5 posted on 07/05/2005 4:33:56 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: over3Owithabrain; RaceBannon; IGOTMINE; SMEDLEYBUTLER; river rat

Oh, I read the whole thing, and found it very interesting. I just mentioned that one area where I take issue with Mr. Keith. But he still has my deep respect. And isn't it simply amazing that he's shacking up with a former USMC Commandant and current CINCEUR, with access to leaders from nations?!? Gotta luv it!


6 posted on 07/05/2005 4:35:02 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Molly Pitcher

Thanks, Molly.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 4:35:10 AM PDT by lysie
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To: Coop

I'm sure the military brass love this guy, between "Red White and Blue" and "American Soldier". Exactly the kind of songs that fire up the fighting men and women and also rally the country around their effort. Keith mentions he is a consevative Democrat. Too bad there are not more like him! Too bad for the Democrats they don't know how to appeal to that part of their constituency!


8 posted on 07/05/2005 4:38:04 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: milemark
I keep hearing that "you can't say that you support the troops if you don't support their mission."

My argument is, would any person in his/her right mind tell their spouse "Your job is a complete joke. I cannot even scrape up a shred of respect for your embarassing efforts. You're also a worthless parent, a complete bum around the house, and a lousy lover. But I love you, Snookums!"

Didn't think so.

9 posted on 07/05/2005 4:38:26 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: milemark

I keep hearing that "you can't say that you support the troops if you don't support their mission." Which does make sense. It's like saying "You're doing something bad but doing it well."

Or it's like saying you support the players on the Pittsburgh Steelers but you hope they drop out of the Super Bowl because their opponent might beat them.


10 posted on 07/05/2005 4:41:00 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
OT: May I please inquire how to find my bookmarks? I've looked everywhere.

Thanks.

11 posted on 07/05/2005 4:47:27 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thanks...great post!


12 posted on 07/05/2005 4:48:58 AM PDT by harpu
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I saw Toby Keith and Ted Nugent perform on one of the American bases in Baghdad last summer. Toby certainly never let on about his feelings about the war one way or the other, but he put on a great show laced with lots of patriotism and support for the troops.

Anything that makes the solders' faces light up is OK by me. ;-)

13 posted on 07/05/2005 4:52:53 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

WEll.. thank God. Now I can sleep at night.


14 posted on 07/05/2005 4:58:36 AM PDT by Fawn
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To: Fawn
WEll.. thank God. Now I can sleep at night.

My thoughts!

15 posted on 07/05/2005 5:06:05 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Keith mentions he is a consevative Democrat.

I saw Toby in Raleigh couple of weekends ago. Watching his show you would never know he has a D by his name. I betcha he hasn't voted Democrap in awhile. I could be wrong though. It was a great show and I highly recommend his show to anyone.

16 posted on 07/05/2005 5:10:44 AM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (Jack Daniels is so good you can feel a straight shot all the way to your toes.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
So it's some of those things there that make it hard for me to argue with us being in there, even though I don't agree with this war and it looks like a complete disaster.

Could he be hearing about the "disaster" on CNN and other leftist media? There are problems in Iraq, but it's going a lot better than the media report it.

Keith, along with many other people, need to understand that if we weren't keeping the enemy engaged over there, we'd be facing them here sooner or later.

17 posted on 07/05/2005 5:19:01 AM PDT by Marauder (From my cold, dead hands ...)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Toby is a democrat? Say it ain't so Toby. Say it ain't so.

Anyway, "conservative democrat"? Oxymoron methinks.

18 posted on 07/05/2005 5:21:07 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Coop
I don't agree with Toby's portrayal of the war in Iraq as a mess

I think Laura Ingraham's phrase comes to mind. Toby this is a War on Terror not on the Taliban, not on Saddam. This war does not end in Iraq.

19 posted on 07/05/2005 5:21:39 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: Marauder
So it's some of those things there that make it hard for me to argue with us being in there, even though I don't agree with this war and it looks like a complete disaster.

I happened to catch some of Brit's show yesterday and he had David McCullough on talking about his book "1776". Wonderful history lesson. After the battle of Brooklyn and several other battles around that time, America had lost the revolutionary war. Lost it! Imagine what we would have become if CNN and the 24 hour news doomsayers had been around then! My god. Thank God for George Washington and those 3,000 men who stayed with him.

20 posted on 07/05/2005 5:30:36 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents

Reagan democrat


21 posted on 07/05/2005 5:43:43 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: mc5cents
This is very interesting. From a review of "1776" on Amazon:
Esteemed historian David McCullough covers the military side of the momentous year of 1776 with characteristic insight and a gripping narrative, adding new scholarship and a fresh perspective to the beginning of the American Revolution. It was a turbulent and confusing time. As British and American politicians struggled to reach a compromise, events on the ground escalated until war was inevitable. McCullough writes vividly about the dismal conditions that troops on both sides had to endure, including an unusually harsh winter, and the role that luck and the whims of the weather played in helping the colonial forces hold off the world's greatest army. He also effectively explores the importance of motivation and troop morale--a tie was as good as a win to the Americans, while anything short of overwhelming victory was disheartening to the British, who expected a swift end to the war. The redcoat retreat from Boston, for example, was particularly humiliating for the British, while the minor American victory at Trenton was magnified despite its limited strategic importance.
Have we become as the British in 1776? Ready to cut and run with every minor setback? If you are a democrat, the answer is yes it seems.
22 posted on 07/05/2005 5:47:28 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: milemark
I keep hearing that "you can't say that you support the troops if you don't support their mission."

I have been saying that from day one... and I can prove it...

23 posted on 07/05/2005 5:49:47 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Marauder

"...I don't agree with this war and it looks like a complete disaster"
Would also be interesting to hear some of his arguments behind these pronouncements.


24 posted on 07/05/2005 5:52:19 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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This is Pgh's liberal rag newspaper. Within the past month CMT had an interview with Toby and he stated that at first he wasn't sure the war in Iraq was a good idea, but since his first trip huge progress has been made and he thinks now it was definitely needed.

He stated that there has been much improvement in the infrastructure and that the Iraqis themselves are happy to be working towards being an independent people.

This interview only gave half the information it should have.


25 posted on 07/05/2005 5:56:33 AM PDT by cjshapi
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To: over3Owithabrain
Keith mentions he is a Conservative Democrat --- lets see that is like a Vegetarian Vampire right?

This yokel is all about money and knows how to work both sides of the street. Ask TK a real question like which end is up? Then follow it with "which end is down?" (these clowns hate trick questions).

BTW TK both of your two faces suck "The Tipsy Chicks with Dicks" have more balls than you do.

But then this is just my opinion on this phony hay seed.
26 posted on 07/05/2005 6:20:23 AM PDT by kentj
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To: frankiep

How was that TK concert, was it in Frankfurt? Did you enjoy it?

Thought you'd like to see this article!


27 posted on 07/05/2005 6:58:09 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: sirchtruth

Under "links" at "my profile".


28 posted on 07/05/2005 7:04:23 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: mc5cents

ping


29 posted on 07/05/2005 1:52:24 PM PDT by alrea
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To: milemark
"you can't say that you support the troops if you don't support their mission." Which does make sense. It's like saying "You're doing something bad but doing it well."

I disagree.

If the nation's political leadership misuses the armed forces in PC or aimless ways, it does not mean the troops are "doing something bad".

It means their civilian commanders are doing something bad, and saying so has nothing to do with the troops.

30 posted on 07/05/2005 1:57:03 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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To: Coop
For a buck ofcourse.

I wonder how much money HE has donated to the various funds for the troops families. densel Washington does it and doesn't even expect to get publicity. HUMMMMMMMM.-

31 posted on 07/05/2005 1:59:18 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

I don't care if he hasn't given a cent. He's given his time via USO shows and paid tribute to our troops with his songs.


32 posted on 07/05/2005 2:21:24 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: marty60

As is so abundantly clear here on FR, it's rather easy to get folks to write a check, but to get them to actually volunteer their time for something is a completely different story.


33 posted on 07/05/2005 2:22:14 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Let's Roll
Thanks!

Love the moniker!

34 posted on 07/05/2005 5:11:17 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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