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U.S. Won't Concede Control of Internet Root Servers
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| 6/30/2005
| Anick Jesdanun
Posted on 07/05/2005 11:15:17 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Good idea. "International Bodies" can screw up anything. Imagine an Internet with the PRC and Saudi Arabia as the supervisors...
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:17:48 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
To: Little Ray
We invented the internet. It was called the ARPANET for an agency of the FedGov we now call DARPA. Typical UN/one worlder nonsense. Give up something of value for nothing. IXNAY.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:20:26 AM PDT
by
RKV
( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
To: RKV
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:25:21 AM PDT
by
Prince Caspian
(Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
To: Little Ray
I seriously doubt if we will EVER give up control of it. The "World Wide Web" doesn't exist without DNS. Whoever controls DNS is on equal footing with those who control the core routers which exchange routes between backbones.
Something that not many usually think about is that to control the DNS is to control ALL e-mail routing. There's a LOT of INTEL value in being able to do that, even if it's not sensitive info on an individual basis.
Think of it like this. Imagine being able to send e-mail destined for whitehouse.gov anywhere you wanted. Then, keep a copy and forward it on to it's intended destination. This is the sort of thing that could happen.
For that matter, replace whitehouse.gov, with army.mil, or af.mil. It's really a nobrainer if one controls the root DNS servers.
To give up control of the root DNS servers would be supremely stupid.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:25:31 AM PDT
by
hiredhand
(My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
plus, you know, thats our porn, not theirs...
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:25:46 AM PDT
by
Right_at_RiceU
(You don't need a gun to kill hippies, just soap or work.)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
Notice that once again, the college professors live on a different planet than the rest of us. They think turning the internet over the likes of Kofi Annan would be a great idea. If those penny-ante Third World countries want to control an internet, let them invent their own and pay for it.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
To: hiredhand
I seriously doubt if we will EVER give up control of it.
I think we'll give it up quick enough if Hellary or the likes of Gore or Kerry ever become POTUS. ~~shudder~~
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:32:44 AM PDT
by
Clara Lou
To: ImaGraftedBranch
Some countries have pressed to move oversight to an international body, such as the U.N. International Telecommunication Union, although the U.S. government has historically had that role because it funded much of the Internet's early development. The US funded it. The US should not under any circumstances relinquish control over it to some "international body".
To: ImaGraftedBranch
Look at the UN. Does I need to go any deeper than that??
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:34:45 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
If the USA doesn't do it, then the UN will, and I for one don't want Kofi Annan's son making a fortune controlling this.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:35:49 AM PDT
by
You Dirty Rats
(Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
The declaration won't immediately affect Internet users, but it could have political ramifications by putting in writing what some critics had already fearedSome critics can go to hell.
We already know that the internet can be referred to as the terrorist planning network, albeit inadvertently.
If there is any hope of ever inhibiting use of the internet by terrorists, killers, extortionists and scammers, we certainly wnat the UN to controlling it. Right?
Right?
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:36:53 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: Clara Lou
I think we'll give it up quick enough if Hellary or the likes of Gore or Kerry ever become POTUS. ~~shudder~~ Yep, kind of like Carter giving up the Panama Canal. Then the GOP lacks the backbone to correct such a dufus move. Of course, the web is much more important to everyday commerce then the Canal, so having it in the hands of responsible people is vital.
To: ImaGraftedBranch
I don't think there's anything wrong with ICANN running the show themselves. I think the problem arises when the UN and its minions get pushy and demand that ICANN cede control to a UN agency. Then you've got an issue.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:37:17 AM PDT
by
July 4th
(A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
To: Clara Lou
Not to make those people sound any dumber than they are. ;-)... but to give away the root DNS servers is to give away a great deal of power. Liberals would rather push needles into their eyeballs and torture their aging parents than give away power. :-)
The only way leftists would give it away would be if somebody simply didn't understand exactly what they were giving away. It would be a collosal mistake.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:38:05 AM PDT
by
hiredhand
(My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
A lot of us talk to people around the world about problematic things like freedom and UN corruption. I think theres a growing anti UN sentiment in the world and I don't think they can afford it.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:38:57 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
To: hiredhand
I seriously doubt if we will EVER give up control of it.That's probably very similar to what people said when theyt first heard the idea of the US giving up control of the Panama Canal, and we know how that ended.
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:45:49 AM PDT
by
South40
(Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
To: hiredhand
"Think of it like this. Imagine being able to send e-mail destined for whitehouse.gov anywhere you wanted. Then, keep a copy and forward it on to it's intended destination. This is the sort of thing that could happen."
All the DNS servers provide is a look up service mapping hostnames to IPs. You cannot do what you describe above. The best you can do is take a peak at what hostnames people want resolved (and I am not even sure if that is possible considering that these roots are probably dealing with requests from DNS servers of ISP's and not directly those of individuals)
Owning the DNS roots is nothing near ownership of the internet. As the article points out, anyone could set up an alternative set of DNS servers.
To: RKV
bump!
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:49:54 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Little Ray
Sort of like the United Nations Human Rights Commission with Libya, Iran, and China as voting members??
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posted on
07/05/2005 11:51:29 AM PDT
by
Captain Rhino
("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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