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Posted on 07/05/2005 2:51:32 PM PDT by TBP
As usual, the Republican Party surrendered the moral and political high ground to the losers when Sen. Bill Frist cravenly accepted Mr. Durbin's phony apology.
Republicans talk tough about the war, radical judges, illegal aliens, affirmative action and term limits. Once elected, though, they thumb their noses at the voters and hide behind liberal power grabs. The American people have completely lost control of their government.
It is time for a counterliberal revolution, but this latest Republican capitulation shows that the feckless Republican Party is incompetent to lead it. Timid and submissive, the Republican Party remains viable only as the nominal home of the conservative movement. Conservatives must lead the revolution from a new party (New Federalist or Originalist?) unfettered by the baggage of existing parties, as the Republicans once did: Several years after its founding, the old firebrand, idea-driven Republican Party nominated Abraham Lincoln for the presidency.
President Franklin D. Roosevelt demagogued that Republicans caused the Great Depression, and the abuse has continued unabated ever since. As a result, the Republican Party assumed a permanent loser mentality, mealy mouthed, falsely objective, content to win elections for their own sakes while deferentially tugging its forelock to Democrats. Republicans routinely cave in to the likes of Mr. Durbin while destroying their own leaders' conservative agendas. The new party must ignore the vicious liberal media and calls for "compassion." Its candidates and leaders should never have served in any state or national capacity in government or another party. Devolution into a big-government pork factory would be arrested by internal term limits, the conservative agenda protected by harsh penalties for McCain-esque mavericks who sup with the enemy.
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Third Party = President Hillary.
The government has grown faster under Dubya than it di under the Klintoons.
It's not a new party we need: we need to remove 75 percent of the incumbent Republicans in the Repulican primaries, but we cannot get candidates with stature to challenge the do-nothing incumbents.
His entire effort was lost on you. Sad. No wonder the republican party is just a wing of the dem party.
Got it? Either put in a REAL Conservative, or don't bother.
Which is exactly what a new party is for. For example, had conservatives voted for Clymer instead of pulling the Republican lever for The Specter, we wouldn't have to be trying to accomodate The Specter (who opposed Bork) on O'Connor's replacement.
When we lose focus, we lose.
Hey-I got it. Read my profile page.
Which is exactly what we do when we hold our noses for RINOS and liberal Democrats masquerading as Republicans.
Yes, unfortunately it has. However, would it have slowed down under Kerry? Doubtful.
Straight up, Pal. Say, did you hear W's statement about the importance of "diversity" on the Supreme Soviet...er, Supreme Court?? Pretty sad.
Remember, I'm with you. But when we thought about a third party, we got slammed into eight years of slick Willie. I don't think that we should take that chance again.
In a perfect world, would I vote for these do-nothings of today, of course not.
NOT necessarily so!!what is the alternative? To keep caving and finally be defeated anyway. I will go down fighting if I go down. NOT giving in to the enemy!!
No more. Never again.
OK-third party is fine so long as we can install a 4th party liberal candidate to equal out the loss of votes...then we could have a real chance. Otherwise we split the conservative vote and almost GUARANTEE a President Hitlery.
Supporting RINOs = President Hillary
I don't care.
But they had best be a Constitutional constructionist. On the JOB DESCRIPTION, we need no diversity of opinion. Follow it, or go away.
That's also true.
Which is why we need Mike Pence.
In actuality, the one true party standing for what would be the Constitution's intent would probably be the Libertarians, given their anti-any government bent
When the conservative movement is only half the population, you can't offer two options to one group and still expect to defeat the enemy. If our group decides to be divided, we will never ever have the chance to get someone to lead our party.
So should we boycott the TX Republican primaries of 2006 for then lack of real conservative choices thus far?
I just hope....
Also don't forget that Dole's v.p. choice was a weak selection too.
Call it A Contract With Congress.
Oh. If we do stay home, please don't tell me that will result in a liberal agenda in Washington because I'll laugh in your face.
If and when we ever regain power, we do the exactly the same thing again. Maybe then they'll believe us.
The Wobblies? Mugwumps. Half Breeds. Bull Moose. This has potential, wonder why they haven't thought of this before.
Do you one better. When filing taxes, demand all your money back. They didn't do what they said they'd do when we HIRED them, why should they be paid? What are they going to do, imprison 100 million people?
I like it. My 2 cents:
A. Immigration and border control.
B. Tax fairness and simplification.
C. Fair trade enforcement.
D. Marriage Amendment.
...so why keep voting for the Republicans?
Ye-es, I hope that is W's strategy. However, I have to confess a gnawing fear that we will get a nice, lukewarm, vaguely "conservative" nominee dropped on the plate, one that the left-wing scum on Capitol Hill will accept without much fuss. This is probably the last chance to reverse the course of our Republic, and it won't happen with another Warren or O'Connor on deck. If we are fated to judicial authoritarianism in the U.S.(as the last forty years indicate) we must hope to God the judiciary will be dominated by the Right.
The Constitution Party has made a hero out of a man who is in bed with the trial lawyers.
This website is operated by Kelly McGinley, former member of the MCREC, and thwarted BOE candidate. See, Kelly McGinley in her various pronouncments, made her support of the Peroutka campaign very clear. She then decided she had the right to challenge Randy McKinney for his seat on the State Board of Education in the Republican Primary. Even as she openly endorsed Constitution Party Presidential candidates.
Marty Connors, one of the more visionary state chairs we've had, didn't cotton to this, and he made sure that McGinley was kept off the primary ballot. Hence her hatred for all things Republican. McGinley has also made it very plain she is an anti-Catholic on her website.
Now, I know the CP's political beliefs have nothing to do with McGinley's insanity, but as long as she keeps ranting and they don't condemn her, I want nothing to do with them.
Please don't misunderstand me. I yell at the top of my lungs everyday. My employees I'm sure are tired of my ranting everyday about the (male part)less people we have employed to elected posts. Yet, we have no chance at all at promoting our beliefs if we allow liberals to regain control of our government.
Actually, I don't think that's true. The Constitution was primarily a limit on the FEDERAL government. The states were left to do pretty much as they wanted, and Libertarians do not like that. I see a lot of libertarians that support decisions like Roe and Lawrence v. Texas because it imposes a made up constitutional standard on the STATES. Overruling Roe and Lawrence would just send the question back to the states--a results many libertarians do not want. Libertarians have a view of the nature of government that is, in many ways, at odds with our consitutional scheme and in others, consistent.
I jave resently come to a similar conclusion. Bye bye GOP.
Conservatives must lead the revolution from a new party (New Federalist or Originalist?) unfettered by the baggage of existing parties, as the Republicans once did: Several years after its founding, the old firebrand, idea-driven Republican Party nominated Abraham Lincoln for the presidency.
The man need to read the history of his own party before making ignorant comment like that.It was because of Lincoln, that we have the country we do now. He was a Big Government guy as were most Republicans who were former Whigs.
Are you talking about all libertarians or the national party? If you are talking about all libertarians, I'll be happy to destroy your opinion.
Doesn't New York have a Conservative Party that holds its own convention but 99% of the time backs the Republican nominee?
"If we continue to vote Republican, at least there is hope."
Oh man do I feel sorry for you. Look at the history of that party, and you tell me when (except for Goldwater and Reagan) where that party was for small government. Saying you are for small government and governing the opposite way does not constitute being for small government.
These are solid, conservative principles.
Ah. But my plan only needs 3 million conservatives to stay home. A credible number which is attainable and may convince our representatives to do what they promised to do.
Oh man do I feel sorry for you...
Thanks for the thought. And I do deserve your pitty. But not about this. Maybe if we would be more intent on advancing our cause, and vote the platform and not the individual, maybe we could advance. When we continue to vote for an individual, we get the result that we have been getting.
I don't prescribe to the theory that if we don't get the result we want out of the current personell, we must jump ship. We will never get the chance if liberals run our country again.
Ain't it the truth! I offer as prima facie evidence the lack of any Republican appearing on the talks shows the last three days and countering the Dems arguments for a 'moderate' or 'liberal' or 'consensus conservative' nominee to SCOTUS. This is not an election! This is a judicial appointment and the only thing that matters is if the nominee can interpret and uphold the Constitution. I have yet to hear a single Republican Senator make a statement along these lines.
Wow nearly everyone on here is talking like a borderline raving lunatic! No, you cannot vote for a third party candidate. That is THROWING your vote away. You would be wasting the gas going to the polling place. I've said it once and I'll say it again: if you want change, try to change the Republican party (ala Mike Pence), don't make your own party.
That aside, look at the big picture. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE for a candidate to please everyone. Even Reagan wasn't hardline conservative on every single issue, which is what you people seem to be demanding. Be happy of what we have in Bush. He is not a RINO. Lindsey Graham and Mike DeWine aren't RINOs. Not everyone who doesn't toe the party line on every single issue is a RINO. Lincoln Chafee is a RINO, ok? And if you have real problems with other Republicans, then beat them in a primary if you must, or else march your greedy butt over to DU and start voting for the Michael Moores of the world.
Anybody who thinks fallen men (that's everyone) can turn this mess around are living in a delusion. Only Christ returning to take the reigns of government will stop man's headlong dive into the pit of destruction. The good news is God has a better cliffhanger ending than any Star Wars or Indiana Jones movie.
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