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Suspicious fire damages Florida abortion clinic; federal agents join investigation
AP ^ | 7/5/05

Posted on 07/05/2005 3:05:48 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. Federal agents are investigating after a suspicious fire damaged an abortion clinic in West Palm Beach, Florida.

The F-B-I and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have joined local authorities in the investigation of last night's blaze at the Presidential Women's Clinic.

No one was injured. No details yet on the extent of damage. A fire department spokesman says it appears that lighter fluid or some other accelerant was used to start the blaze.

A July 2004 fire damaged another Palm Beach County abortion clinic and a 2003 blaze damaged one in neighboring Broward County.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortionclinic; abortuary; arson; fire; florida
Interesting timing that this should come on the heels of the SCOTUS situation. It would be just like pro-aborts to try to get flaming abortuaries in the news at this time.
1 posted on 07/05/2005 3:05:51 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

It is strange. The extremists among the anti abortion crowd have been pretty much purged and silent for a while. Seems an awfully odd time to show up and help the pro abortionists.


2 posted on 07/05/2005 3:09:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: cripplecreek

all it takes is a single non-affiliated nut case with their own agenda


3 posted on 07/05/2005 3:12:12 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: cripplecreek; All
"It is strange. The extremists among the anti abortion crowd have been pretty much purged and silent for a while. Seems an awfully odd time to show up and help the pro abortionists."

Same crap as with all the bogus "hate crimes" against black churches and college students. 9 10'ths are faked by the "victims" to reinforce their "victim" status when news of legitimate "hate crimes" wanes and they start to lose mediashare.

4 posted on 07/05/2005 3:13:23 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Attempting to murder adults is no way to save unborn babies.


5 posted on 07/05/2005 3:13:32 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: anniegetyourgun

Why is BATF on the scene anyways?


6 posted on 07/05/2005 3:14:38 PM PDT by blackeagle
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To: anniegetyourgun
>> No one was injured

I've never heard of an abortion clinic with a safety record this good.

7 posted on 07/05/2005 3:14:50 PM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I certainly wouldn't put this group of liars past setting their own places on fire to stir the flames and get their agenda back in the news.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 3:15:37 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
pro aborts taking cues from the muslims?
9 posted on 07/05/2005 3:16:41 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

When several crisis pregnancy and pregnancy aid centers were badly vandalized here in Maryland over the last year or so, I didn't see federal agents getting involved.

Or this level of publicity.


10 posted on 07/05/2005 3:17:33 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Presidential Women's Clinic."

Something to do with the 'Toon?

11 posted on 07/05/2005 3:19:26 PM PDT by Fog Nozzle
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To: blackeagle

Bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. Enforces the Federal laws and regulations relating to alcohol, tobacco, firearms, explosives, and arson.


12 posted on 07/05/2005 3:27:43 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: anniegetyourgun
A fire department spokesman says it appears that lighter fluid or some other accelerant was used to start the blaze.

First thing that came to mind was the clinic staff.

13 posted on 07/05/2005 3:33:25 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: handy old one

Thank you


14 posted on 07/05/2005 3:33:35 PM PDT by blackeagle
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To: blackeagle

They have to find a way in some how.


15 posted on 07/05/2005 3:34:18 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: commonasdirt

"All it takes is a single non-affiliated nut case with their own agenda."

No kidding. I pray this was an electric fire or some other accident.

Morons like this put back the movement, and certainly do not stand for "life."


16 posted on 07/05/2005 3:36:35 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: siunevada

I think it was the clinic staff too. Let's have a look at their books, personnel files...


17 posted on 07/05/2005 3:39:39 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: T'wit

Very insightful. Irony roars more often than it whispers.


18 posted on 07/05/2005 3:42:34 PM PDT by StPatricksBreastplate
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To: T'wit

Half of their patients usually die.


19 posted on 07/05/2005 3:45:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: anniegetyourgun
If the libs were to burn an abortion clinic, they know who would be blamed!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

20 posted on 07/05/2005 3:48:16 PM PDT by bray (Did you buy a Soldier Lunch Today??)
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To: TXBubba
I certainly wouldn't put this group of liars past setting their own places on fire to stir the flames and get their agenda back in the news.

Oh c'mon... they're serial killers. Not liars.

21 posted on 07/05/2005 4:48:59 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (no sarcasm tag required)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Morons like this put back the movement, and certainly do not stand for "life."

How does someone 'put back the movement' if the movement hasn't gone anywhere in over 30 years?

~1.2 million dead shredded babies last year = ~1.2 million dead shredded babies this year = ~1.2 million dead shredded babies next year = going nowhere

I am anti-babyshredding and I say the numbers count.

You may go back to licking stamps and mailing fund raiser letters for your 'movement'.

22 posted on 07/05/2005 9:49:39 PM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: Lester Moore

(1) We are about to get 2 judges, if provacteurs or idiots don't screw things up, that's one step.

(2) It has to do with a cultural change. While the law has changed little, peoples' hearts have changed --- more people morally oppose abortion than ever. By showing people God's love, more troubled woman will "Choose Life," to use the catch phrase.

Hate-filled screamers do little to change peoples' minds.


23 posted on 07/06/2005 2:34:12 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
>> Oh c'mon... they're serial killers. Not liars.

That's a peculiar distinction. I don't think it holds up. People who do bad things always try to justify themselves, and lying is their first recourse. The various euphemisms for abortion -- "a woman's choice," "procedure," "terminating a pregnancy," "reproductive rights" and so on -- are all lies of a sort. Certainly they are all used to obscure the truth.

24 posted on 07/06/2005 3:16:34 AM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: MeanWestTexan
(1) We are about to get 2 judges, if provacteurs or idiots don't screw things up, that's one step.

We do hope & pray, but I'll believe it when I see it.

(2) It has to do with a cultural change. While the law has changed little, peoples' hearts have changed --- more people morally oppose abortion than ever. By showing people God's love, more troubled woman will "Choose Life," to use the catch phrase.

Legalized baby-shredding was imposed upon the nation by SCOTUS rulings, not by a vote of the people. A majority of people in 1973 were opposed to baby-shredding, as reflected by the laws of the 50 states concerning baby-shredding in 1973. Only 3 states allowed it, and then only under highly regulated circumstances. The other 47 banned it.

So what's the point? Well, hearts and minds didn't matter then and they don't matter now.

The baby-slaughter will stop when the Feds, SCOTUS included, want it to stop. They will never want it to stop until the pain experienced, due to having legal baby-shredding, outweighs the perceived benefits of keeping baby-shredding legal. Hearts and minds of the masses is irrelevant.

Also, abortion rates for churched women that profess Christ, is the same as the unchurched. Although I can't prove it, I believe that the more fundamentalist, hard-line, Churchs have lower rates. It's the women of the faggot, apostate denominations that skew the baby-shredding rates of the 'Church' to the same rates as the rest of the world.

Good luck with your dream, now go lick your stamps.

25 posted on 07/06/2005 8:29:17 AM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: T'wit
I was being facetious.
26 posted on 07/06/2005 12:56:30 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (no sarcasm tag required)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Were there brimstone involved?


27 posted on 07/06/2005 1:22:42 PM PDT by dmanLA
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To: Judith Anne

"I think it was the clinic staff too. Let's have a look at their books, personnel files..."

See my post #3 Judith Anne. A MUCH more likely scenario


28 posted on 07/06/2005 3:01:24 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Oh.

Well, it is always a pleasure to use the word "facetious," which is one of only two common English words with all five vowels used in order.

29 posted on 07/06/2005 3:26:46 PM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: T'wit

fAcEtIOUs.

By golly, you're right. :)


30 posted on 07/06/2005 3:45:52 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Plus the Y if you wish: fAcEtIOUslY. But what is the other relatively common word with this property?

Sequoia has all five vowels -- though not in order -- in only a seven-letter word.

Wordplay is fun :-)

31 posted on 07/06/2005 4:19:16 PM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: cripplecreek
"The extremists among the anti abortion crowd have been pretty much purged and silent for a while. Seems an awfully odd time to show up and help the pro abortionists."

Same thing happened in Florida a few years ago then a baby killing clinic burned. The Baby-killers started pointing fingers at right-to-life people and called them terrorist. The FBI dragged several people in front of the cameras "only suspects". Then they realized that the man who owned the building set it on fire. Insurance scam!

Be careful who you blame because you might be wrong. There are others who would gain the political power of victim-hood right before an abortion debate. You just never know.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com
32 posted on 07/06/2005 4:28:29 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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To: Lester Moore

"~1.2 million dead shredded babies last year = ~1.2 million dead shredded babies this year = ~1.2 million dead shredded babies next year = going nowhere"

I heard that the number of abortions are increasing. So it's actually going backwards with the exception of the "baby shredded" that burned up in this "clinic".

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


33 posted on 07/06/2005 4:32:41 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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