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Parents think Boy is Reincarnated WW2 Pilot (weird story as seen on "Prime Time")
abc.com ^ | 6-30-05 | abc new

Posted on 07/05/2005 3:17:28 PM PDT by Rakkasan1

Six decades ago, a 21-year-old Navy fighter pilot on a mission over the Pacific was shot down by Japanese artillery. His name might have been forgotten, were it not for 6-year-old James Leininger.

Quite a few people — including those who knew the fighter pilot — think James is the pilot, reincarnated.

James' parents, Andrea and Bruce, a highly educated, modern couple, say they are "probably the people least likely to have a scenario like this pop up in their lives."

But over time, they have become convinced their little son has had a former life.

From an early age, James would play with nothing else but planes, his parents say. But when he was 2, they said the planes their son loved began to give him regular nightmares.

"I'd wake him up and he'd be screaming," Andrea told "Primetime Live" co-anchor Chris Cuomo. She said when she asked her son what he was dreaming about, he would say, "Airplane crash on fire, little man can't get out."

Reality Check

Andrea says her mom was the first to suggest James was remembering a past life.

At first, Andrea says she was doubtful. James was only watching kids' shows, his parents say, and they weren't watching World War II documentaries or conversing about military history.

But as time went by, Andrea began to wonder what to believe. In one video of James at age 3, he goes over a plane as if he's doing a preflight check.

Another time, Andrea said, she bought him a toy plane, and pointed out what appeared to be a bomb on its underside. She says James corrected her, and told her it was a drop tank. "I'd never heard of a drop tank," she said. "I didn't know what a drop tank was."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; hebrews927; jamesleininger; louisiana; ltjameshustonjr; pilot; prime; reincarnated; reincarnation; soulsurvivor; time; tv; war; ww2
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I wonder if he can bend spoons with his mind,too.
1 posted on 07/05/2005 3:17:32 PM PDT by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1

Is this supposed to be serious journalism according to ABC?


2 posted on 07/05/2005 3:19:55 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: Rakkasan1

I wonder if they have Discovery - Wings. Watch that cable channel about 30 minutes and you'll know all about "drop tanks".


3 posted on 07/05/2005 3:20:16 PM PDT by sierrahome (Colfax, CA; "A Small Drinking Town With A Rail Road Problem.")
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To: Rakkasan1

This family lives in my town. This was pretty big in the news about a year ago but has pretty much faded away. He was featured on Coast-to-Coast AM one night, but it seems the celebrity has pretty much dimmed. The story is pretty spooky....


4 posted on 07/05/2005 3:20:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Rakkasan1

Parents also smoke too much crack...according to sources.


5 posted on 07/05/2005 3:21:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: Rakkasan1


These days I feel like I am a reincarnated Vietnam Vet come back with a vengence to kick the crap out of some uneducated, agenda driven, vile hippies (or democrats for short)

Sadly, we still have lots of them around and another war for them to protest and not understand. But they'll understnad my size 11 G.I. boot up their arse.


6 posted on 07/05/2005 3:22:09 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: Joe 6-pack

ask them if the kid would take me for a ride in his Corsair.

thanks.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 3:23:10 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (every day is a gift, that's why they call it the present.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Bump for later read. My children are reincarnated asylum inmates and I need to regain order.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 3:25:35 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Rakkasan1
"ask them if the kid would take me for a ride in his Corsair."

If I were you, I'd opt for a ride in his Wildcat...it seems he never successfully completed transition to the Corsair...

9 posted on 07/05/2005 3:26:35 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack
This family lives in my town.

I'm not even disputing the "authenticity" of this story. I'm just asking if it belongs on a supposedly journalistic program. Why doesn't ABC just bring back "Ripley's Believe It or Not" if they want to run stories like this?

10 posted on 07/05/2005 3:27:44 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: Rakkasan1
They put it right in your face. They don;t even care that they sound nuttier than lunatics, since America is pretty much dumbed down by the NEA union system of indoctrination.
11 posted on 07/05/2005 3:29:27 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: An American In Dairyland

A few decades from now some little kid is gonna have nightmares about driving off a bridge while in a drunken, lustful stupor. He'll then run out the door, screaming about needing a lawyer. When his parents wake him up, he'll say, "Uh, I, uh, was in the car, uh, when it, uh, went off the, uh, bridge....I, uh, am in no way, uh, responsible for, uh, the death of that girl, uh, who just, uh, happened to be, uh, in the car."

He'll say this, of course, in a Boston accent.


12 posted on 07/05/2005 3:30:30 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: puroresu

ROFLMAO


13 posted on 07/05/2005 3:33:48 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Someone please ping me when Barak Obama utters an original thought.)
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To: Rakkasan1

If this story is true, it is reassuring that Americans can be reincarnated as Americans. I would hate to be reincarnated in some jacked up place like the middle east or africa.


14 posted on 07/05/2005 3:34:17 PM PDT by Cruz
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To: Rakkasan1

I wonder how much money these people think they can make off stories like this one?


15 posted on 07/05/2005 3:36:05 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: Joe 6-pack
He was featured on Coast-to-Coast AM

Well if George Noory has signed off on this, then it has to be true. He's not one to entertain kooky notions or weird guests, now is he?

16 posted on 07/05/2005 3:37:13 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: Rakkasan1

That's nothing. One of my cats believes he is a reincarnated sabre tooth and tries to bring-down cows, deer, and anyone dressed in skins and carrying a spear...


17 posted on 07/05/2005 3:37:35 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Rakkasan1
"I wonder if he can bend spoons with his mind,too."

Actuallly, there is no spoon. :)

18 posted on 07/05/2005 3:37:41 PM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: Lunkhead_01

They could probably make more money if they started a TV show with some woman with too much make-up and fake eyelashes crying every show....

Maybe add a choir in the background...


19 posted on 07/05/2005 3:39:10 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: ElkGroveDan
"Well if George Noory has signed off on this, then it has to be true."

LOL...But I would give him more credibility than ABC....

20 posted on 07/05/2005 3:40:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Rakkasan1
ask them if the kid would take me for a ride in his Corsair.

First of all, the story doesn't say how old the kid is.
He may not be able to even say "Corsair".
With your luck, he probably flew Wildcats.

21 posted on 07/05/2005 3:41:10 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I was thinking along the lines of a Kingfisher, you know those truly ungainly, unglorious amphibious planes. Why is it everyone assumes the kid was a fighter pilot!

(sarcasm.....really!) ...I think


22 posted on 07/05/2005 3:42:22 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, where next? I say retreat through Iran, then flank west through Syria!)
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To: Rakkasan1

This story has been going on for three years. The little tyke is probably getting to the point of having his own life about now.


23 posted on 07/05/2005 3:42:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Publius6961
the TV show said he was 6. He mentioned that Corvairs always got flat tires.

maybe the kids stays home all day watching Wings or something.

24 posted on 07/05/2005 3:44:20 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (every day is a gift, that's why they call it the present.)
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To: Rakkasan1
"He mentioned that Corvairs always got flat tires."

I thought they'd pretty much worked through that deficiency by the early '60s...


25 posted on 07/05/2005 3:46:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: An American In Dairyland

You're talking about the network that had a prime time special about UFO's.


26 posted on 07/05/2005 3:46:55 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (6/30/05 budget deficit down http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0620/p17s01-cogn.html)
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To: Rakkasan1
About half my relatives believe stuff like this. I have an uncle who says he served in the Civil War (he's just not sure which side). A cousin who says she's buried in one of the Egyptian pyramids. Another relative who channels some guy from Atlantis. A niece who thinks she was Father Serra. On and on. This story seems almost normal to me....Except I never believe any of it!
27 posted on 07/05/2005 3:47:38 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Joe 6-pack

I didn't think Corsairs flew off of baby flattops, either.


28 posted on 07/05/2005 3:49:12 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: Lord_Baltar

Does this woman have "poofy" hair?


29 posted on 07/05/2005 3:52:28 PM PDT by brooklin
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To: Rakkasan1
to believe in reincarnation would be to beleieve that God made a mistake the first time

We have a perfect God

We know He does not make mistakes

30 posted on 07/05/2005 3:53:25 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Rakkasan1

Shades of Bridie Murphy, but you never really know...do you.


31 posted on 07/05/2005 3:54:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: brooklin

Poofy Hair kinda makes the picture, don't ya think...

That and the black streams of drippy mascara...


32 posted on 07/05/2005 3:55:18 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: BonnieJ

Please notice that nobody was ever a stable hand. While we're on this, how many out there were once just honest cavepeople?


33 posted on 07/05/2005 3:55:22 PM PDT by brooklin
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To: Revelation 911

How so?

Why would reincarnation indicate a mistake on God's part?


34 posted on 07/05/2005 3:56:30 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: conservative cat

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 07/05/2005 3:56:48 PM PDT by xsmommy
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"I didn't think Corsairs flew off of baby flattops, either."

Good point...all I could find during a quick googling was from webscavenger...

"At war's end, Corsairs were ashore on Okinawa combatting the Kamikazes and flying from fleet and escort carriers.

36 posted on 07/05/2005 3:58:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Rakkasan1

I wonder if the kid ever dated Shirley McClain


37 posted on 07/05/2005 3:58:32 PM PDT by sierrahome (Colfax, CA; "A Small Drinking Town With A Rail Road Problem.")
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To: ElkGroveDan

"Well if George Noory has signed off on this, then it has to be true. He's not one to entertain kooky notions or weird guests, now is he?"

I detect sarcasm. You mean you don't believe George's stories about shadow governments and not-supporting-the-war-but-supporting-our-troops as well as believing that the President started the war for his own purposes? That George "doubt-America-first" Noory?


38 posted on 07/05/2005 4:02:12 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Rakkasan1

I know Carol Bowman - she is not a crackpot per se - but I don't buy into all of her theories. She does have documented cases. One of my children fit into this category until she was almost five and now she is like any other kid. Ms Bowman asked my permission to include her in a book but I decided against it. I am not into reincaration. I can't explain the why or what was going on with my child - it was very real but history now.


39 posted on 07/05/2005 4:05:20 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: brooklin

You're right. A loony liberal friend of mine thinks she was the daughter of Akhenaten.


40 posted on 07/05/2005 4:05:26 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife
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To: An American In Dairyland
.....I'm not even disputing the "authenticity" of this story. I'm just asking if it belongs on a supposedly journalistic program. Why doesn't ABC just bring back "Ripley's Believe It or Not" if they want to run stories like this?.....

I agree. This kid story was amazing. Are the parents just plain lying? I don't know.

The first story about the groom with amnesia for a year was just stupid in my opinion. I believe he was just a form of a runaway groom who took a year off mentally to be babied. I can't believe his wife's parents bought it hook, line and sinker.
41 posted on 07/05/2005 4:05:51 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Rakkasan1

Ask him for his pre-flight check list. No pilot worth his wings would ever forget that. So said my uncle, now dead, who flew the hump from India to China and back in WWII.


42 posted on 07/05/2005 4:06:11 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: daybreakcoming

reincarnation


43 posted on 07/05/2005 4:08:05 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Rakkasan1

Worst case the parents are pulling a scam using their child. Best case, self deception, they like the idea so much and the kid is picking up on easily seen things on the boob toob. How about that? TV? nah cant be.
Reincarnated pilot. Yep. Yes sir.

Put the kid in an actual F4U Cockpit and watch his intimate knowledge go out the door. Anyone can know outside details. Only a pilot could know the intimate details of the cockpit that your life depended on.
Small things, the feel of the trim controls, the gauges, airspeeds for approach. All that they wont show on TV. All that I guarantee the kid wont know.

What next? When are we going to grow beyond this nonsens?


44 posted on 07/05/2005 4:09:10 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Rakkasan1

The world it wierder than people ever believe at the time. What is time, anyway? How far away is yesterday, or tomorrow? What is self awareness? Have you seen the fibers of the world at sunset?

What is to say the a person's soul can't come back to this side if it thinks it has unfinished business?


45 posted on 07/05/2005 4:12:03 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: An American In Dairyland
Hey...wait just a minute! My grandaughter is only 4 years old, ugly as dirt, whines all the time and craps all over the place.

Her only claim to fame is that she thinks she is the reincarnation of Hillary Clinton.

When I told her that it couldn't be because Hillary wasn't dead yet.

The kid replied, "Who would know the difference?".

46 posted on 07/05/2005 4:24:34 PM PDT by albee (A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what is going on.)
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To: puroresu

If that happens, the parents had better call for an exorcist!;)


47 posted on 07/05/2005 4:27:41 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Great post (and dead-on), not to mention a killer screen name. :) Gotta love that movie ("Army of Darkness", for the uninitiated). Bruce Campbell is just the best...........

Ever read his book, by the way?


48 posted on 07/05/2005 4:31:53 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
Haven't read his book. Shook his hand once though.
49 posted on 07/05/2005 4:34:09 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Joe 6-pack
Went to a Jeep carrier reunion as a guest two years ago and met a former Marine Corsair pilot that operated from one. Utterly amazing, give the small size of those carrier decks and the well-known difficulty in seeing the deck on final approach from "Old Hose Nose", but they did it.

I like the idea one of the writers had: put the kid in a Corsair cockpit and see if he knows what he's looking at...

50 posted on 07/05/2005 4:38:55 PM PDT by USMCVet
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