Posted on 07/05/2005 5:57:37 PM PDT by wagglebee
concerning residue, two journalists were arrested for stealing into the hangar where the plane was being reconstructed.
their goal was to steal fabric from the seats, to have it independently chemically analyzed for residue to show whether the incindary was a tank explosion or a missile.
I am not questioning the "validity" of the journalists who were arrested. I'm simply saying that their arrest had nothing to do with precisely what the government was trying to hide -- just that the government was trying to hide SOMETHING.
1. If TWA 800 had been shot down by a terrorist, then the government arrested them to keep the cause of the crash from being made public.
2. If TWA 800 had been blown up by an on-board explosive, then the government arrested them to keep the cause of the crash from being made public.
3. If TWA 800 had been accidentally shot down by a missile from a naval vessel, then the government arrested them to keep the cause of the crash from being made public.
4. If TWA 800 had been deliberately shot down by a missile from a naval vessel, then the government arrested them to keep the cause of the crash from being made public.
5. If TWA 800 had been shot down by aliens from outer space, then the government arrested them to keep the cause of the crash from being made public.
Every scenario I've posted involves a government attempt to suppress the truth about what happened, and every one of them involves the government arresting journalists to keep the truth from being told. The fact that the journalists were arrested doesn't make any one of the five scenarios more likely than the other (in other words, the arrest of the journalists does not necessarily mean that Scenario #1 was exactly what happened) -- but it does indicate that the government is trying to hide SOMETHING.
yes, sir.
i've read your points and understand them.
gracias!
senor, ken
LOL. Thanks -- I thought I was losing my mind. :-)
So...you going to back up that bold statement with your expertise on Navy doctrine for conducting live fire missile exercises?
No terrorist organization claimed the Khobar Towers either...you saying that was a result of a U.S. military SNAFU too?
Hezbollah does not need or want to identify itself. Ironically, Khobar was a bit of a government SNAFU.
I had a friend in the airforce, who said he was there and saw the missle hit the plane.
The area off the south shore of Long Island that is used by the U.S. Navy for military exercises -- designated W-105 -- was active that night. That little tidbit wasn't made public until months after the incident.
How does that sound?
I think you are right Peach.
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I would make a couple of points in response to that:
1. You are assuming that every person -- or even most people -- on a Navy vessel are aware of everything that goes on at any given time. If an accidential shoot-down occurred during what would otherwise be described as "routine" naval exercises involving multiple vessels, and the aircraft was far enough away from the ship that fired the missile that it couldn't be seen clearly, then most crew members on the ship in question wouldn't even know exactly what happened.
2. An incident involving the military and civilian aircraft is not unprecedented. In addition to the well-publicized downing of an Iranian airliner over the Persian Gulf by the USS Vincennes in 1988, there was another intriguing case in the last 25 years that hasn't received much exposure at all.
An Italian DC-9 crashed in the Tyrrhenian Sea off the coast of Italy in 1980 under very mysterious circumstances, killing all 81 passengers and crew members. The formal investigation of that incident never really identified a cause, and the circumstances surrounding the investigation generated a lot of suspicion almost immediately. Information from the voice and data recorder was never made public, and data from air traffic control was conveniently "lost" during the investigation.
The case was never truly resolved, but by 1996 -- seventeen years later -- it was pretty much accepted in Italy that the aircraft had been accidentally shot down during an incident involving a Libyan fighter jet and military aircraft from one or more NATO countries. The secrecy surrounding the case was sufficient evidence in and of itself for this kind of speculation, and what made the whole thing particularly sensitive from Italy's standpoint was that the involvement of other NATO countries (naval vessels and aircraft from France and the U.S. were apparently involved to some degree or another) added an element of jurisdictional confusion that would not otherwise have been present.
You can characterise him as a felon if you choose, but he is a courageous investigative writer who got too close to the truth, and was selectively prosecuted to shut him up.
Why isn't James Kalstrom in jail for giving away several parts of TWA800 when Sanders was prosecuted for receiving a small swatch of explosive residue impregnated seat covering?
And you explain the independent testimony of over 130 witnesses from all over Long Island Sound (Whose testimony was supressed by the FBI/NTSB) that independently corroborate the Triangulation of a source point for a streak of light that went up from the surface to the plane .....how?
What did Sanders do to become a felon?
I've got the video produced about that crash. Very chilling.
In the course of investigating the cover up of the crash, he persuaded someone to appropriate a swatch of the seat covering from the area of the plane where he believed the missile penetrated so he could have an independent analysis performed to see if any propellant or explosive residue was present.
clinton had him, and his wife, prosecuted under the law forbidding the removal of debris from a crash site, despite the fact that James Kalstrom had given away parts of the plane to survivor's families as a (political) symbolic gesture.
The Sanders' prosecution was clear act of intimidation and an attempt to silence them and suppress their book "The Downing of Flight TWA 800".
Check it out.
Nitrogen in military fuel tanks reduces damage when a plane is hit by hostile fire.
There is no method for "fuel inerting" for non-military planes.
It proved impossible to produce an explosion in a scale model - at any any temperature, much the actual rather cool temperature the fuel would have been at at 13,000 feet and at that interval after takeoff.
It proved impossible to even produce a deflagration in a scale model without just lighting the fuel using much more voltage and power than would have been present in any wiring in the 747 fuel tank.
TWA800 was probably shot down. Probably by terrorists who have been shooting at our airliners since, at least, the Air Arrow crash in Gander, and against which we have ZERO defence.
When you fly, you are a sitting duck. And our government will LIE LIE LIE to us about that because the price of AMR stock is more important than your life.
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