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War of the Worlds : Spielberg and Wells on War, Revolutions, Occupations, and Christianity
New Republican Archive ^ | July 4, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 07/05/2005 7:47:27 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis

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To: what's up

Are you kidding me?


61 posted on 07/05/2005 9:35:30 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: durasell
You idolize the past greats too much at the expense of connecting them to the present. K had the same flaws as SS actually. Sentimental and schematic to a fault. I maintain that SS is as good a director of action and spectacle as any film maker who ever lived. Eisenstein and Kurosawa included. I'll agree with you on your Scrosese/Spielberg take though.
62 posted on 07/05/2005 9:36:01 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Sprite518

I agree with what's up! Batman Begins was an anonomous genre movie with no personality to speak of.


63 posted on 07/05/2005 9:36:55 PM PDT by Borges
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To: what's up

What disappointed you about the current Batman movie?


64 posted on 07/05/2005 9:37:00 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
First, the film is set on a July 4 weekend,

Um...no it isn't. The film is clearly set in the fall. Is the author confusing this movie with Independence Day?

65 posted on 07/05/2005 9:40:14 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Borges
Anyway the film of Starship Troopers was a satire. On that basis it was brilliant.

Oh please. Bill the Galactic Hero is a satire of Starship Troopers.

The movie was a lame hacky attempt by a pathetic self aggrandizing liberal hollywierd screenwriter (or a comittee of the same) to overlay his own pathetic ideologies and weak criticisms of a work he neither understood, nor probably even read. Calling it a "satire" is just an equally lame attempt to explain away the crappy insult to the audience (not to mention R.A. Heinlein) that resulted. It was hardly "brilliant" by any definition.

66 posted on 07/05/2005 9:41:22 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: denydenydeny

That article really has a Lyndon Larouche feel.


67 posted on 07/05/2005 9:42:44 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I don't idolize the past greats because I don't see them as "past." Their work still lives and remains vital. Citizen Kane is still a great movie. Faulkner is still a great writer. And I expect as much from movie makers and writers today as I expect from those who lived 50, a 100 or 400 years ago. Guys working today may have a different written or visual vocabulary, but I refuse to accept that art has to devolve under the burdens of money and international markets.


68 posted on 07/05/2005 9:43:03 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Sprite518
I found it dull. I think that thing that zoned me out early was the emphasis on the Eastern mysticism stuff with Liam Neeson (not a favorite actor of mine tho that's beside the point) which I find tedious.

And it seemed lifeless thereafter as well.

69 posted on 07/05/2005 9:45:04 PM PDT by what's up
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To: pillbox_girl

I understand that fans of the novel didn't like it. But director Paul Verhoweven is a satirist. The whole thing was made in the form of a fascist propaganda movie. It's a big goof. The characters were played by blond blue eyed bleached Aryan types. All by design. It's also a formally adept piece of filmmaking. Remember the same director made Robocop.


70 posted on 07/05/2005 9:46:52 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

And while I'm at it, what the hell does "hollywood elite" mean, anyway?


71 posted on 07/05/2005 9:50:49 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I saw the movie two nights ago. Special effects were great. The little girl drove me nuts to the point of almost leaving. I had huge expectations for this film as I still love the original flick and generally like Spielberg and his work.

I do not regret seeing it, but I was dissapointed overall. Maybe I was just expecting too much.

72 posted on 07/05/2005 9:52:08 PM PDT by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: what's up

I couldn't have said it better. That first act in Bhutan was painfully dull. And Nolan can't stage fight scenes to save his life.


73 posted on 07/05/2005 9:53:40 PM PDT by Borges
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To: durasell

I don't know it's a stupid term. So is 'Hollyweird'. Do they talk about the New York elite or the Chicago Elite?


74 posted on 07/05/2005 9:55:16 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

This essay is simply awful.


75 posted on 07/05/2005 10:01:07 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad

You actually read the essay?


76 posted on 07/05/2005 10:03:30 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
And while I'm at it, what the hell does "hollywood elite" mean, anyway?

You're kidding, right?

I'll quote Laura Ingraham:

Elite is a state of mind. It doesn't mean working in a particular profession, living in a special place, or making a certain amount of money. When I talk about the elite in New York and Hollywood I'm talking about people who believe that America's traditional values are a thing of the past. The part of America outside their orbit is considered ignorable, merely fly-over country.

77 posted on 07/05/2005 10:08:32 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: denydenydeny

Actually I wasn't kidding. What some people on this board call "Hollywood elite" are actually some of the most scared and timid people you would ever hope to meet. They're in a profession that is not only fickle, but in which you get to make very, very mistakes.

On the other hand, I would say -- from my limited experience -- that many in Hollywood have either an inflated idea regarding the salt of the earth nobility of flyover country folks or harbor the petty ugliness of a superior attitude that comes from growing up among the country club set in flyover country.


78 posted on 07/05/2005 10:14:09 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Borges
Hardly so when the script has the tripods buried around the earth in prehistory.
79 posted on 07/05/2005 10:22:26 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

I thought the movie was ok. I live in the UK. My girlfriend is Swiss/Italian. We saw the film together.

One line in the movie had Tom Cruise explaining to his son that the tripod had come from 'somewhere else'. His son replies with his own question- 'Somewhere else- like Europe?' We both thought that was hilarious.


80 posted on 07/05/2005 10:52:01 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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