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'Wash Post' Wonders if Leaker of Plame's Identity Was a Reporter
Editor & Publisher ^ | July 6, 2005 | E&P Staff

Posted on 07/05/2005 8:22:23 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

The Washington Post, declaring Wednesday an "historic" day in the history of the press in America, suggested that perhaps the "leaker" of Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIa operative was not a Bush administration official but a reporter (or reporters).

In a Wednesday A3 story, Carol Leonnig writes, "Sources close to the investigation say there is evidence in some instances that some reporters may have told government officials -- not the other way around -- that Wilson was married to Plame, a CIA employee."

She also revealed that colleagues of Matt Cooper, the Time who may be sent to jail Wednesday if he continues to refuse to testify to a grand jury, say "he is still struggling with his decision. For practical purposes, he cannot protect his sources because his publication has already turned over notes that identify them. But if Cooper cooperates, friends say, he fears his journalistic reputation will be tarnished. Time editors have told him they will respect whatever decision he makes, they said."

Leonnig also observed that at a lunch meeting on Tuesday with Washington Post reporters and editors, Karl Rove, who turned up as a source in Cooper's notes, declined to answer questions about the Plame case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; cia; cialeak; iraq; media; plame; rove; washingtonpost; wilson; wp
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1 posted on 07/05/2005 8:22:29 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Personally I think the leakers name was Joe Wilson.


2 posted on 07/05/2005 8:23:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: cripplecreek

Joe Wilson had the most to gain.


3 posted on 07/05/2005 8:25:23 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: cripplecreek

I think the leaker's name is Joe Wilson, too.


4 posted on 07/05/2005 8:26:13 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is hilarious -- you couldn't write a better ending to the story then to have the press be the leakers. How are they going to spin that one?


5 posted on 07/05/2005 8:27:04 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: TASMANIANRED

It just makes the most sense to me. After all they begged for privacy and claimed great danger for themselves......then ran out to do photo shoots.


6 posted on 07/05/2005 8:27:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

that would be so sweet if the leaker was a reporter,


7 posted on 07/05/2005 8:27:36 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: West Coast Conservative; cyncooper; Fedora; Dog; okie01

"Sources close to the investigation say there is evidence in some instances that some reporters may have told government officials -- not the other way around -- that Wilson was married to Plame, a CIA employee."

Lot of people here could have told the Wash Post that a year ago, given the leaks about the investigation. I think Miller might be the first person to have told Scooter Libby.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 8:27:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: cripplecreek

9 posted on 07/05/2005 8:29:35 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I posted just this evening ........... "Nah. In my mind the person they are protecting is one of their own."

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this. Just look at the fact they had an opportunity to burn Bush in the election if it was Rove and they didn't so ......... going to jail for Rove if indeed this 'outing' was a crime? Highly unlikely. Well not likely PERIOD!
10 posted on 07/05/2005 8:29:52 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: West Coast Conservative
declaring Wednesday an "historic" day

Hey, Editor and Publisher. We are Americans (even if I personally lapse into British spellings a lot). We are most definitely not Cockneys. We do not drop our aitches.

Repeat after me, snob: "a historic." "A historic." There ya go.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

11 posted on 07/05/2005 8:30:02 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Support and avenge our fallen operators)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"The leaker is ... Karl Rove!! This just shows how evil and unethical the Bush Admin is and how they will stop at nothing to weaken our ... hang on. I've just been handed a newsflash. Turns out the actual leaker is Katie Couric. Well. Ah ... Ah ... Ummm ... Katie has always been a bold journalist, always willing to do go the exta mile to uncover a great story. We salute her!"


12 posted on 07/05/2005 8:31:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: West Coast Conservative
It's Karl Rove, duh. Larry O'Donnell guessed that, so it must be true. </scarcasm>
13 posted on 07/05/2005 8:32:19 PM PDT by anonymous_user (You gotta be passionate about something. I guess.)
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To: PhiKapMom

"This is hilarious -- you couldn't write a better ending to the story then to have the press be the leakers."

I'll give it a shot: The so-called "leakers" told Novak, etc. that Wilson's wife, by maiden name or not, was connected to the story not to harm Wilson's ego, but to make the story they told seem more important. The leakers were anti-Bush types. Then the reporters told the "White House" officials about it, eg., Libby.

The reporters who did not hear the wife story from the leakers heard it from other reporters like Miller and Cooper.

There's still a George Tenet revenge plot possibility, but I'm sticking with a comedic end.


14 posted on 07/05/2005 8:33:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: PhiKapMom
"...you couldn't write a better ending to the story then to have the press be the leakers. How are they going to spin that one?"

George Bush MADE them do it!
No, wait a minute - it was the Florida Supreme Court!

15 posted on 07/05/2005 8:34:59 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: PhiKapMom
How are they going to spin that one?

They're NOT!


16 posted on 07/05/2005 8:35:16 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Forget about Terrorism Fool! My pug has the master plan!)
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To: atlanta67

It would be sweet indeed-- but, "I'll take 'Joe Wilson' for $500, Alex!"


17 posted on 07/05/2005 8:36:50 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Fears his reputation would be tarnished." Ain't being "journalist" tarnishment enough Matt?


18 posted on 07/05/2005 8:38:16 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Redbob
George Bush MADE them do it!

It's just hilarious how the MSM goes back to these complete nothing stories when they have nothing current for Bush-bashing purposes. Such juveniles.

19 posted on 07/05/2005 8:38:30 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: auboy; TASMANIANRED; West Coast Conservative
I think the leaker's name is Joe Wilson, too.

It is absolutely inconceivable that the self-promoting, narcissistic showboater Joe Wilson could keep his wife's employment a secret from his good pals in the Beltway press.

I would presume he's been telling them for years.

20 posted on 07/05/2005 8:38:32 PM PDT by angkor
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To: West Coast Conservative

If the Washington Post says this, you can bet it was a reporter or reporters. Getting this juicy little tidbit out there may be an attempt to dull the story's impact.


21 posted on 07/05/2005 8:39:11 PM PDT by maxter
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To: ClearCase_guy
You mean this Katie?

"The leaker is ... Karl Rove!! This just shows how evil and unethical the Bush Admin is and how they will stop at nothing to weaken our ... hang on. I've just been handed a newsflash. Turns out the actual leaker is Katie Couric. Well. Ah ... Ah ... Ummm ... Katie has always been a bold journalist, always willing to do go the exta mile to uncover a great story. We salute her!"

22 posted on 07/05/2005 8:41:20 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: anonymous_user
It's Karl Rove, duh. Larry O'Donnell guessed that, so it must be true.

Yeah. I just love how DU and the lefty blogs responded to O'Donnell's revelation. One partisan says something he has no real way of knowing, and they're all over it. It's like they learned nothing from Rathergate. Once again, Lucy holds out the football, and once again Charlie DU gets ready to land flat on his back.

Hey, maybe Rove was the leaker. I don't know. Neither do you, and neither does anybody else except those who've actually seen Cooper's notes. But I seriously doubt it was him, on the theory that mainstream reporters would never, never, never risk going to jail to protect Karl Rove. We shall see.

23 posted on 07/05/2005 8:42:26 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
"How are they going to spin that one?"

Easy, Bush's fault because he was Selected not elected, lied about the war, lied about Halburton, lied about the National Guard, lied about his DUI, lied about [fill in the blank] etc. ad infinitum ad nauseum...

< /sarcasm >

24 posted on 07/05/2005 8:43:06 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: West Coast Conservative

DFU presents Joe Wilson's diary of his excellent adventure in Niger
secret source | 7-14-04 | dfu


Posted on 07/14/2004 10:44:48 AM PDT by doug from upland


JOE WILSON'S secret diary; entries Feb. 17 - 25, 2003


Monday, Feb. 17
my biggest worry - when was I last immunized for yellow fever?...hectic cab ride to the airport...grabbed a latte on the way at the Starbucks where Caity Mahoney was murdered...awwww, she didn't get her chance to talk to Ken Starr...damn Republicans...caught United flight to Paris.....caught Al Algerie and landed in Niamey...20 hours and a lot of smelly people....man, I better find a way to get a book deal out of this


Tues, Feb. 18
fourth floor suite at the Gawaeye is okay...jet lag hitting hard...sat by the pool sipping sweet mint tea most of the day...asked a bellhop if he knew anything about Iraq buying yellow cake...he didn't


Wed., Feb. 19
spent about three hours sipping sweet mint tea...watched some CNN...I don't know whether to thank or blame Valerie for getting me this gig...if she ever finds out about the student who came in on my flight from Paris, she will hang me by my nads...asked Bridgette if she knew anything about Iraq buying yellow cake...she didn't


Thurs, Feb. 20
had a traditional Niger breakfast and stomach felt queasy most of the day...met with a few government officials...we sipped sweet mint tea...can't remember their names...asked if they knew about Iraq buying yellow cake...they didn't


Fri, Feb. 21
went to the Niamey Grand Market to do some shopping...asked the cabbie on the way if he knew anything about Iraq and yellow cake...he didn't...had a leisurely lunch and sipped sweet mint tea for about an hour and a half...asked 10 shop keepers if they knew about Iraq buying yellow cake...nine of them knew nothing...one guy heard some kind of a rumor from his brother-in-law in Chad but didn't trust him, particulary after his honor killing of their niece ...bought Valerie an authentic Djenne-Djeno copper alloy bead necklace...got one for Bridgette, along with a copy of Leaves of Grass in French...put it all on expense account...thank you, taxpaying suckers...watched a little CNN and a porno tape I brought with me


Saturday, Feb. 22
it was a tough week, so I thought I deserved some R&R...went to see camel races...asked three camel jockeys if they knew whether Iraq had bought yellow cake...they didn't...the races were fun, but the sweet mint tea had me jumping up to go to the bathroom too often...ha, ha, kind of like Al Gore was not in the room because he drank too much iced tea and had to go pee...took Bridgette out for some dinner and entertainment...we had a fairly decent meal of rice and sauce, couscous, kebabs, grilled fish and chicken...then went to the Jet-7 and drank a few too many beers

Sunday, Feb. 23
slept in late...this stinking place has no decent Sunday brunch in the whole damned country...had a continental breakfast -- orange juice, coconut milk, stale pastry of some kind...sat by the pool most of the day drinking sweet mint tea...in the evening, I went by a mosque and asked some kids outside if they knew anything about yellow cake...they ran away...I think they were scared and thought I might have been out gay cruising...maybe I'm lucky I didn't get beaten up like Kevin Spacey when he was out cruising in Geraldine Mary Harmsworth Park in London


Monday, Feb. 24
last day here...in good faith, I really wanted to do my job and find out about this yellow cake stuff...a police officer knew nothing, a librarian knew nothing, three tribal leaders knew nothing, a high-ranking military officer knew nothing, a peddler knew nothing, a guy I met in a public restroom knew nothing...spent another few hours by the pool to get in my last several cups of sweet mint tea


Tuesday, Feb. 25
another 20 stinking hours from Niamey to Paris to D.C....if this religious warrior and cowboy thinks he is going to get away with claiming Iraq was a threat, I have all the info I need to nail him...hell, he was never elected in the first place...I wonder if it will be Howard Dean or Hillary who gets the nomination...if I were Howard, I would worry that Hillary might whack me...whoever gets the nod, if they win, I had better get a good job...but I'm not going back to Niger...give me Paris


25 posted on 07/05/2005 8:43:41 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I remember when all of this started, Fred Barnes or someone on Britt Hume's panel said it was an open secret in Washington that Plame was CIA.


26 posted on 07/05/2005 8:45:25 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (To boldly go where no FReeper has gone before!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Oh my word...how funny would that be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 07/05/2005 8:50:01 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Bushbacker1

I recognize Katie Couric on the left, but who is that horrific looking monster on the right?


28 posted on 07/05/2005 8:50:35 PM PDT by speedy
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To: doug from upland

Good work


29 posted on 07/05/2005 8:50:37 PM PDT by Checkers (Gitmo has killed fewer people than Michael Schiavo.)
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To: cripplecreek
Personally I think the leakers name was Joe Wilson.

I think it was Lawrence O'Donnell.

30 posted on 07/05/2005 8:50:58 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Shermy

I love your scenario -- I think you probably hit it right on the mark too. I have been chuckling ever since I heard this on our local radio when I was headed to a fundraiser tonight.


31 posted on 07/05/2005 8:53:34 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's certain that Miller and Cooper will spend less time in jail protecting Democrat wrongdoing than Susan McDougal did.


32 posted on 07/05/2005 8:54:16 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: Mad Dawgg

ROFLOL! That was good! :)


33 posted on 07/05/2005 8:54:33 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: K4Harty

You made me burst out laughing with that one! Wonder if this story is going to just disappear?


34 posted on 07/05/2005 8:55:19 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: JennysCool
It's just hilarious how the MSM goes back to these complete nothing stories when they have nothing current for Bush-bashing purposes. Such juveniles.

It gives them a chance to recite the "Bush lied about WMD" mantra one more time, while ignoring the now demonstrated fact that it was Wilson who was discredited.

35 posted on 07/05/2005 8:59:44 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: speedy

"I recognize Katie Couric on the left, but who is that horrific looking monster on the right?"

Katie before the multi-million -dollar make-over.


36 posted on 07/05/2005 9:01:49 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: okie01

Right! I can just hear it at the Washington Compost--
1. "Maybe we can get O'Donnell to say it was Rove!"
2. O'Donnell says it was Rove.
3. Bloggers wonder why reporters would go to jail rather than nail Rove.
4. "Well maybe we can say it was reporters after all."

Rush is right, they are predictable.


37 posted on 07/05/2005 9:04:21 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: okie01
while ignoring the now demonstrated fact that it was Wilson who was discredited.

Shhhh! You're not supposed to remember that!

38 posted on 07/05/2005 9:05:55 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This jerk has a young wife, wealth, probably a nice house, a few cars, etc. And yet he STILL is in a mid-life crises and now demands attention.

What scum. These leftist will do anything to enhance their status, wealth and ego while taking down a conservative or Republican.

And the idiots in the GOP leadership better learn that lesson...FAST!


39 posted on 07/05/2005 9:06:23 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Compassion is a great thing. Just quit making me pay for YOURS with MY money!!!)
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To: Politicalities

No way Rove was the leaker.

They tried to use the leaking of Plame as an means to discredit the Administration during the run up to the election.


If it was Rove they would have used it.


41 posted on 07/05/2005 9:13:19 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Washington Post, declaring Wednesday an "historic" day in the history of the press in America, suggested that perhaps the "leaker" of Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIa operative was not a Bush administration official but a reporter (or reporters).

If true, the MSM is going to drop this story like a hot potato. Move on -- nothing to see -- no story here...

42 posted on 07/05/2005 9:14:00 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Politicalities

No way Rove was the leaker.

They tried to use the leaking of Plame as an means to discredit the Administration during the run up to the election.


If it was Rove they would have used it.

That news would have been bigger than Abu Graib.


43 posted on 07/05/2005 9:14:02 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: All

I think the leaker was Judith Miller.


44 posted on 07/05/2005 9:15:47 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan ( We (want) got a Bush landslide in November!!!)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

OMGosh. That would explain why Miller was asked to testify although she never wrote about it!


45 posted on 07/05/2005 9:25:24 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: doug from upland

Doug! That is hilarious!


46 posted on 07/05/2005 9:33:05 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed. It is parody but probably more close to the truth than people know.


47 posted on 07/05/2005 9:36:06 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Didn't Novak say 2 years ago that half of Washington already knew who Plame was and what she really did before the leak? I have read in more than a few places that she did not exactly keep it a secret, and neither did Wilson.


48 posted on 07/05/2005 9:39:00 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Liberty Valance; Checkers
This was in a story written by Wilson himself ---

I spent the next eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current government officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place.

49 posted on 07/05/2005 9:40:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Of course before he wrote his July 6, 2003 op-ed in the New York Times, Wilson was giving the story out on background.

Here's one example:

Missing in Action: Truth

(eye roll on the title meant to refer to the Bush administration)

May 6, 2003

excerpt featuring Wilson as source where he even links the forged documents falsely to his trip. Turns out he never saw them, they didn't emerge until after his trip and the CIA headquarters didn't have them until after the SOTU "sixteen words":

Consider the now-disproved claims by President Bush and Colin Powell that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger so it could build nuclear weapons. As Seymour Hersh noted in The New Yorker, the claims were based on documents that had been forged so amateurishly that they should never have been taken seriously. I'm told by a person involved in the Niger caper that more than a year ago the vice president's office asked for an investigation of the uranium deal, so a former U.S. ambassador to Africa was dispatched to Niger. In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the C.I.A. and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged.

The envoy reported, for example, that a Niger minister whose signature was on one of the documents had in fact been out of office for more than a decade. In addition, the Niger mining program was structured so that the uranium diversion had been impossible. The envoy's debunking of the forgery was passed around the administration and seemed to be accepted — except that President Bush and the State Department kept citing it anyway. "It's disingenuous for the State Department people to say they were bamboozled because they knew about this for a year," one insider said.

~snip~

50 posted on 07/05/2005 9:49:48 PM PDT by cyncooper
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