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Pentagon promotes words of wisdom by Lawrence of Arabia
The Daily Telegraph ^ | July 6, 2005 | Oliver Poole

Posted on 07/05/2005 10:29:37 PM PDT by MadIvan

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Lawrence was, by the end, quite insane. So I would take what he said with a grain of salt.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/05/2005 10:29:38 PM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 07/05/2005 10:29:53 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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---T E Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom---

Number One: Never let a Turk get behind you.


3 posted on 07/05/2005 10:36:27 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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"Lawrence was, by the end, quite insane. So I would take what he said with a grain of salt."

What was the cause of his insanity, Syphillis?

4 posted on 07/05/2005 11:00:24 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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Hanging out in the desert too long, more likely.

Regards, Ivan


5 posted on 07/05/2005 11:01:45 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Hanging out getting beaten with a cane by his Batman for sexual gratification or being parted from his beloved Brough Superior might also be possible reasons.


6 posted on 07/05/2005 11:13:13 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: claudiustg

"---T E Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom---

Number One: Never let a Turk get behind you."

In other words he was a top.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 11:14:21 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: MadIvan

Eccentric maybe, but insane? He seems to be the only Westerner ever to get a fair shake from the nosepickers of the house of Saud.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 11:18:08 PM PDT by SandfleaCSC (Tagline has been appropriated by county council for a much more profitable one)
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To: MadIvan

He seemed to know what he was talking about. He was able to convince a large group of Bedouin to fight the Turks instead of fighting against each other.


9 posted on 07/05/2005 11:41:15 PM PDT by rudyudy
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To: MadIvan
Lawrence was, by the end, quite insane.

Knowing when he was and when he wasn't is the trick.

10 posted on 07/05/2005 11:53:31 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: MadIvan

Lawrence regarded them as noble savages. alas; he was only half right..


11 posted on 07/06/2005 12:04:01 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Dave Elias

Never read Lawrence's stuff, what was his seven pillars of wisdom? Anybody know?


12 posted on 07/06/2005 12:06:02 AM PDT by sasportas
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One of the great un-read books of the 20th century. It was the basis for Lawrence of Arabia. It was also self-published.

Better to start off with The Mint, which is not only substantially shorter, but far more entertaining.


13 posted on 07/06/2005 12:10:28 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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One of the great un-read books of the 20th century. It was the basis for Lawrence of Arabia. It was also self-published.

Undoubtedly you are right, I, for one, haven't read it. But what were his seven pillars of wisdom?


14 posted on 07/06/2005 12:20:07 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

bible quote from proverbs...


15 posted on 07/06/2005 12:32:32 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: MadIvan

Insane or not, he did quite an analysis of the essentials of successful guerrilla warfare.

Army magazine (AUSA) this month has a nice article discussing this and modern extrapolations from his seminal works.


16 posted on 07/06/2005 12:40:31 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: sasportas

I believe the Seven Pillars of Wisdom refers to the laws of Islam for believers, not the essentials of successful guerrilla warfare that he later distilled in writings and letters from this autobiographic book that he titled that which is about his military work in the Middle East during WWI.


17 posted on 07/06/2005 12:44:31 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: durasell

If you ever do read Seven Pillar of Wisdom, be sure to have an unabridged dictionary on hand.

My father gave me his hardback copy to read when I was a teenager, and I needed a dictionary to get passed the first page.

Dad told me that Lawrence wrote the book twice. The original manuscript was accidentally left in a Paris train station, and he had to rewrite the whole thing over.

The first publication was private, and Lawrence gave copies only to his friends.

Liddell Hart's book Strategy used a lot of insight that Lawrence conveyed to him in private correspondence.


18 posted on 07/06/2005 12:52:03 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: MadIvan

A Prince of Our Disorder had some Seven Pillars content.
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When this Pulitzer Prize-winning biography first appeared in 1976, it rescued T. E. Lawrence from the mythologizing that had seemed to be his fate. In it, Harvard professor of psychiatry Dr. John Mack humanely and objectively explores the relationship between Lawrence's inner life and his historically significant actions. Extensive interviews, far-flung correspondence, access to War Office dispatches and unpublished letters provide the basis for Mack's sensitive investigation of the psychiatric dimensions of Lawrence's personality. In addition, Mack examines the pertinent history, politics, and sociology of the time in order to weigh the real forces with which Lawrence contended and which impinged upon him.


19 posted on 07/06/2005 1:50:26 AM PDT by scramaseaxe2002
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In the end he was killed by a motorcycle crash. Are you certain about the insanity. Any support for the syphillis idea?


20 posted on 07/06/2005 4:13:56 AM PDT by em2vn
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