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The Schiavo Autopsy Results: Terri Dailies July 6
Accuracy in Media-Media Monitor ^ | July 6, 2005 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Several bloggers have drawn attention to a strange lead in a Washington Post story about the Terri Schiavo autopsy results. The June 16 Post story by David Brown said that "Terri Schiavo died of the effects of a profound and prolonged lack of oxygen to her brain on a day in 1990, but what caused that event isn't known and may never be, the physician who performed her autopsy said…"

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1 posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:10 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; cyn; 8mmMauser; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
July Dailies Ping

8mm


2 posted on 07/06/2005 10:51:55 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Salvation; narses

Ping


3 posted on 07/06/2005 10:54:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thanks for the ping, 8mmMauser. Very nicely written column.


4 posted on 07/06/2005 10:55:14 AM PDT by syriacus (Libs LUV a Justice who's ready, for approval from Dick, Chuck and Teddy.)
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To: 8mmMauser

"The unborn, human embryos, and disabled people like Terri Schiavo. These are the expendable ones, according to the prevailing media view. I always thought that liberals were supposed to be compassionate. The liberal media are strangely cold and calculating on the matter of who lives and dies. If you don't meet their test of humanity, you're dead. It's frightening. Who's next on the list?"

Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.


5 posted on 07/06/2005 10:59:43 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To: 8mmMauser

Less human = more animal = who care in the media.

GOD + life (any amount) = good


6 posted on 07/06/2005 11:00:54 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: 8mmMauser
Ouch! That's really going to hurt.

Liberal MSM bias ping.

7 posted on 07/06/2005 11:02:31 AM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: 8mmMauser; All
 
 
Crosslinked:

-Useless Eaters vs The Death Cult--



 
Think Terry's Fight does not affect, or apply, to you?
Think again.
Got a recessive gene? Old parent or spouse? Handicapped child?
At what point do they become "a useless Eater"-- like Terry?
All you geezers that moved to Florida for low taxes & mild weather? You're next...
Just as the Pope predicted, we have become a Cult of Death--
 
To access the entire database of links we have ( some going back to 2003 ), click these:
 SCHIAVO; TERRISCHIAVOEUTHANASIA;  
 
 



8 posted on 07/06/2005 11:06:53 AM PDT by backhoe (Just Another 'Bot for Terri... for Life...)
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To: 8mmMauser
"the essential issue was her individual right to life…

Unfortunately, many other "rights" trump the right to life these days.

9 posted on 07/06/2005 11:08:34 AM PDT by neodad (I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way)
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To: 8mmMauser

save for later


10 posted on 07/06/2005 11:11:47 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: backhoe
-Useless Eaters vs The Death Cult--

You know I realize this may be asking for a lot but do you think it's possible to actually title a thread on the issue with applying some sort of martyr status to one camp while castigating the other? I mean you don't see the other camp with a thread titled Reasonable Understanding Conservatives vs The Statist Loons do you?

As for the actual thread, is it possible, again I realize this is asking for a lot, for supporters of the Schindlers to disagree on this issue without out of touch hyperbolic calls for impeachment, childish namecalling and slander of those involved, and Scientology references

The issue has never been the rationale of a 'cult of death' but rather what role government should play in any decision.

11 posted on 07/06/2005 11:23:17 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Earthdweller

Isn't it horrible. We are a culture of death. We let people who wouldn't normally be able to sustain themselves die, is this abhorrent or what. When I saw last nights car accident on TV, and how the guy only had a head and a stump I thought.. MY GOD.. this guy could still be alive.. hook him up to machines QUICK. We should all be allowed to live forever on machines whether we have a brain or not, stupid dems.


12 posted on 07/06/2005 11:36:22 AM PDT by FreeDemm
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To: billbears
Free Republic poll. April 2005...

Was it wrong to kill Terri Schiavo?

Yes 86.8% 1,428

No 7.7% 127

Pass 3.3% 55

Undecided 2.2% 36

100.0% 1,646

13 posted on 07/06/2005 11:38:44 AM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: 8mmMauser
Somehow I think this should be a new "unwritten rule" regarding Terri Schiavo threads. I respect and admire Mark Fuhrman and I am so looking forward to reading his book.


14 posted on 07/06/2005 11:39:11 AM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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To: FreeDemm

See post #13


15 posted on 07/06/2005 11:41:56 AM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Houmatt

Isn't it strange, though, that he didn't wait for the autopsy results before publishing his book? Wouldn't it have been better to include more information, or was rushing it into stores more important?


16 posted on 07/06/2005 11:47:50 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Earthdweller
One, that didn't answer my question did it? But that's about the answer I would have expected.

Two, why as a conservative do I care about a poll? Is that now how Constitutional issues, separation of powers, and the proper limitations of government are decided? What about the rule of law? Facts?

Your entire post shows a poll. So is that your final argument? Because 1427 people agree with you (on a very badly worded question I might add, talk about slant..), it means they have carte blanche to make nonsensical arguments, slander Michael Schiavo (who hasn't been charged with anything BTW), and develop conspiracy theories as truth and fact?

"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler

Could you please post where this quote came from? A poem she wrote before 1990? Family home video? Or were you channeling it somehow?

17 posted on 07/06/2005 11:57:23 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

I am so confused by your post. The courts (the state if you will) insinuated themselves into Terri's life and death. To me, you appear to have the issue completely backwards. With all due respect. I would surely hope that the law would do what it's supposed to do (protect us) and not step in and HELP someone kill me.
susie


18 posted on 07/06/2005 12:00:03 PM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: highball

The Medical Examiner announced at the beginning that he would issue the report within two to three weeks after the autopsy. He then delayed it for ten weeks before issueing the report. Could the M.E. have delayed the issue the report intentially after the setting of the print date?


19 posted on 07/06/2005 12:03:00 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: billbears


See post #8 for any research you need.


20 posted on 07/06/2005 12:03:05 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: True Republican Patriot

I doubt it - that's pretty far-fetched, if you're suggesting that the ME did it because of the book. There's no evidence whatsoever to suggest that the coroner isn't an upstanding man.

Regardless, Fuhrman's book got a couple extra weeks on the shelves, and is now and forever out of date. Don't think that's a very good tradeoff for him.


21 posted on 07/06/2005 12:07:31 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: brytlea
The courts (the state if you will) insinuated themselves into Terri's life and death.

No, the courts were asked by one party to determine a civil case. Nothing else. They were not 'insinuated' into anything.

I would surely hope that the law would do what it's supposed to do (protect us) and not step in and HELP someone kill me.

And I would surely hope the law, whatever the decision, when decided would be respected within the limitations of the Constitution, which means the Florida Supreme Court was the final arbitrator on the case.

22 posted on 07/06/2005 12:07:49 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: highball

What is so strange about it? Neither one of us have read the book, and I quite frankly don't trust what the M.E. who did the autopsy said, so I don't see your point.


23 posted on 07/06/2005 12:08:23 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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To: newgeezer

"Terri dailies"


24 posted on 07/06/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: billbears

Obviously you haven't read too much about this case, it's not worth going any further into your questions or logic.


25 posted on 07/06/2005 12:09:12 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: True Republican Patriot

What you pointed out is just another reason why I think the autopsy results stink to high heaven.


26 posted on 07/06/2005 12:10:20 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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To: billbears

So, if you think the state had a role to play, then what is wrong with those of us who disagree with their decision? Why are we all about the govermnet intervening in people's life but you're not? I smell hypocracy here....
susie


27 posted on 07/06/2005 12:11:43 PM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: Houmatt

Interestingly, Mark Fuhrman has praised the medical examiner. He doesn't seem to think that the autopsy results stink to high heaven.


28 posted on 07/06/2005 12:11:56 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: .38sw
Interestingly, Mark Fuhrman has praised the medical examiner.

Can I get a link?

29 posted on 07/06/2005 12:13:33 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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To: FreeDemm

Huh?


30 posted on 07/06/2005 12:15:08 PM PDT by Freedom Blitz
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To: Earthdweller
See post #8 for any research you need.

Ok thanks

Portrait of a Spiritual Killer: George Felos, in His Own Words

Felos is creepy, perhaps mentally ill, and appears to have hallucinations.
4 posted on 07/05/2005 9:37:50 PM EDT by Dante3
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Good article. Thanks for the post. Felos is a freak.
5 posted on 07/05/2005 9:40:22 PM EDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Totally gave me chills! This man is one sick twisted soul. He will surely burn in hell if he doesn't turn from his murderous ways!
7 posted on 07/05/2005 9:52:42 PM EDT by Halls (I will never forget Terri Schiavo and neither should you!)

Michael and the vampire Felos came across exactly as this author describes them even on television, and some of the Fox journalists expressed their revulsion for Felos during the times he was describing poor Terri's "lovely" death.

God bless the Schindlers. Their daughter fell into the hands of monsters, and the courts and legislators mostly backed the monsters to the hilt.
11 posted on 07/05/2005 10:39:01 PM EDT by Cecily [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Wow you know, you're right!!! That's just from one thread. The hard hitting in depth reporting. The factual evidence provided (oh forgot they don't matter). Why I do believe almost every post on that one thread is so full of information, I could easily form an opinion on not only the actual evidence of the case but also the sanity of some of the posters

'Vampire', 'twisted soul', 'burn in hell if he doesn't turn from his murderous ways', 'freak', 'creepy, and appears to have hallucinations'. Who said Pharisees were no longer with us?

31 posted on 07/06/2005 12:15:47 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Houmatt

It might be in a transcript somewhere, but I heard him with my own ears on Hannity's radio show right after the book came out, and this morning on the Lee Rodger's radio program at 7 am in an interview. I don't have a link, so no, I can't prove it. Sorry.


32 posted on 07/06/2005 12:16:10 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: True Republican Patriot; highball

I read somewhere that in the 2nd edition of Fuhrman's book he will discuss the autopsy results.


33 posted on 07/06/2005 12:19:23 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: brytlea
So, if you think the state had a role to play, then what is wrong with those of us who disagree with their decision? Why are we all about the govermnet intervening in people's life but you're not? I smell hypocracy here....

Not saying I disagree or don't disagree. But it should have stopped at the state level, whatever decision. You are about government intervening unconstitutionally when you approach the national government over a state issue.

I smell hypocracy here....

You do nothing of the sort. You probably just forgot what a limited government conservative looks like.

34 posted on 07/06/2005 12:19:37 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Houmatt

The M.E. ruled out Bulimia as a cause of a heart failure, and he ruled out any heart attack pointing out terri's heart was healthy until the end.Hence he found the oxygen depravation to the brain was from an unknown cause from his perspective.Mark has several good theories of what could have caused that deprivation from his long experience in investigating suspicious deaths.


35 posted on 07/06/2005 12:21:24 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: billbears
Thanks for the link.
36 posted on 07/06/2005 12:22:19 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: billbears

What hard information do you want? It was murder. Plain and simple. Done by Judge and Sheriff at behest of Judge and Husband -- but murder nonetheless.


37 posted on 07/06/2005 12:22:33 PM PDT by bvw
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To: billbears

You forgot to ping the freepers whose posts you included.


38 posted on 07/06/2005 12:23:44 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: Houmatt

He said it on Sean Hannity's radio show and the TV show that same night.


39 posted on 07/06/2005 12:25:00 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: texasbluebell

Thankyou for the update, Mark's assessment of the autopsy report will be very significant. I strongly recommend reading his book, it is spellbinding and very clearly formulated.Hopefully the second edition will be out shortly.


40 posted on 07/06/2005 12:26:36 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: True Republican Patriot

How about the old standard, deliberate intent through good old fashioned foul play?


41 posted on 07/06/2005 12:26:43 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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To: bvw
It was murder. Plain and simple. Done by Judge and Sheriff at behest of Judge and Husband -- but murder nonetheless.

That's one of those fine conspiracy theories right there. Nothing to support your allegations, except more innuendo. No charges of wrongdoing by any government official against Schiavo but you know

A) it was murder and
B) the judge and the sheriff were involved

But as I said before, innuendoes are as good as facts apparently.

42 posted on 07/06/2005 12:30:12 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: 8mmMauser
Every Terri thread deserves a picture of her sweet face.


Look at that smile

43 posted on 07/06/2005 12:33:27 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: billbears
With the facts in broad daylight in front of us all, you deny them.

Terri was murdered. She was forcibly starved to death, forced to die of thirst.

You don't want fact, you don't want truth. You want denial and excuses. That hunger -- for denial and excuses -- you have can never be satisfied.

44 posted on 07/06/2005 12:34:42 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Houmatt

Yep, she fell so hard on a hard floor that the thud woke HINO up from a sound sleep but she had no bruises on her face or a broken nose even though she had fallen face down according to the HINO! Your theory seems amazingly precise and accurate.Maybe she was moved to that location from her bed and pillow?


45 posted on 07/06/2005 12:34:58 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: Houmatt

Why don't you trust the ME? His credibility has not been questioned, not by anybody on the case.


46 posted on 07/06/2005 12:36:36 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: biblewonk

Grab some popcorn. ;O)


47 posted on 07/06/2005 12:37:28 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Earthdweller

Thanks, that and the one on the cover of Mark Furman's book are the ones I remember best.

8mm


48 posted on 07/06/2005 12:37:32 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: True Republican Patriot

How about the pillow itself as a possible murder weapon?


49 posted on 07/06/2005 12:42:21 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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To: bvw; billbears
You know, billbears, it is not a laughing matter when you consider what happened to Terri could very easily happen to you.

Do you want someone else making the decision of whether you should live or die, based completely on hearsay?

I didn't think so.

50 posted on 07/06/2005 12:48:11 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where can I get a T-shirt with Karla Homolka and a superimposed bullseye on it?)
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