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Lock each and every one of them up! - (life without possibiity of parole for child molesters!)
JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.COM ^ | JULY 6, 2005 | LINDA CHAVEZ

Posted on 07/06/2005 6:25:52 PM PDT by CHARLITE

How many children must die before lawmakers and the courts decide to keep certain classes of sexual predators behind bars permanently?

Joseph Edward Duncan III, a registered sex offender from Fargo, N.D., is the most recent addition to the pantheon of convicted pedophiles who have been let out of jail only to prey on other victims upon their release. Duncan was convicted of twice raping a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint in 1980. He was 16 years old at the time he committed the crime.

Sentenced to 20 years, Duncan was first released after serving 14 years, violated his parole and was sent back to prison in 1997, where he remained until 2000. When he finally got out, he enrolled in college and even made the dean's list, but soon was trolling for more victims. Duncan was arrested for videotaping and fondling a 6-year-old boy on a playground in Minnesota last July, but instead of being sent back to prison — or at least held without bail — he was released on a $15,000 bond in April, then vanished.

Duncan is only the latest in a long list of convicted sex offenders who have gone on to commit horrendous crimes after being released from jail.

The punishment for raping a child ought to be life in prison, period. There ought never to be a second chance for such persons. And while lesser sexual crimes — fondling or possessing child pornography, for example — might deserve a second chance, it must come under the most restrictive circumstances: life-long, electronic monitoring. Any second offense of such crimes should earn a life sentence, with no possibility of parole.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: child; life; molesters; penalties; predators; sexual; withoutparole
I wonder how long it will take before NAMBLA and the ACLU begin shouting about Duncan's "rights."
1 posted on 07/06/2005 6:25:56 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Hang them. No lethal injections: they're not unwanted pets or something. There's no need to keep them around in prisons, where they just start their own little subcultures. We need to bring back real punishments. We need to bring back public hangings.


2 posted on 07/06/2005 6:33:41 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: CHARLITE

I wonder how long it will take before NAMBLA and the ACLU begin shouting about Duncan's "rights."

The memebers of both organizations should be arrested and sent to Club Gitmo, for LIFE. Let the a-rabs have a shot at their butts. They might change their minds.


3 posted on 07/06/2005 6:41:02 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: CHARLITE
Any lawyer who gets a sex offender off, should have to have the sex offender live in his house with his small children. Any Judge how lets a sex offender off, should have the children's parents and grandparents live with him.
4 posted on 07/06/2005 6:42:45 PM PDT by liliesgrandpa
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To: CHARLITE

The judges putting these pukes on the street are most likely pedophiles themselves.

Kinda like some RC Cardinals in the US.


5 posted on 07/06/2005 6:45:56 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: liliesgrandpa
Better yet, if a judge releases someone on bail, charge the judge with accessory to any crime the perp commits while on bail.
6 posted on 07/06/2005 6:46:39 PM PDT by dc27
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To: claudiustg

Hang them. No lethal injections: they're not unwanted pets or something. There's no need to keep them around in prisons, where they just start their own little subcultures. We need to bring back real punishments. We need to bring back public hangings.

Castrate them first, with a dull knife. Take away their so-called-man-hood, they will loose what is left of their wicked little minds. Then hang them! I agree with the Grone Dad, I am sick and tired of letting perverts kill our childern, by some idiotic letter of some law???


7 posted on 07/06/2005 6:50:36 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: CHARLITE
But even if we have to build many more jails to keep such criminals behind bars, wouldn't it be worth it to save the lives of children like Jessica, Sarah, and so many others who have died because of our failure to do so?

Hell yes. The activist judicial system has made it easy for pedophiles to skirt punishment by claiming the actions of these freaks are symptoms of mental disease. Child molesters can't be cured. If we don't have the right to end their putrid existence then let's lock them up and throw away the key.

The punishments for these kinds of crimes should be much stiffer.

8 posted on 07/06/2005 6:54:46 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: CHARLITE

And when all the pedophiles start killing their victims, so said victims can't ID them, that's gonna be LOTS better.

Look, I despise child molesters as much as the next guy, but child molestation is not a capital crime for the same reason rape is not a capital crime.


9 posted on 07/06/2005 6:56:13 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Go Team Venture!)
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To: Xenalyte
Both forcible rape and child molestation should be capital crimes.

You've ruined an innocent life and that innocence can never be reclaimed.
10 posted on 07/06/2005 7:03:17 PM PDT by tenger
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To: CHARLITE
There is a reason for the death penalty.

It is not for revenge, and it is not for punishment.

It is to protect the rest of society from living in fear of these nasties.

Becki

11 posted on 07/06/2005 7:05:20 PM PDT by Becki (There is hope for me. Moses was once a basket case, too.)
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To: claudiustg

I say tie one end of a sturdy wire to their offending organ and its attending sac-o-nuts, hand them a sharp knife and throw the other end of the wire into one of those tree mulching machines. One way or the other that peckerwood gets pulverized.


12 posted on 07/06/2005 7:10:53 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Xenalyte

Mark Klass, said his solution would be this....a pedophile convicted the first time should serve his full sentence....then he gets out...if he reoffends, he should receive life without possibility of parole....I was surprised at this, considered what Mr. Klass has been through with losing his daughter Polly...he said his reasoning is that someone, even tho convicted, might actually not be guilty of the crime...however, if that person reoffends, and is then again caught, tried, and found guilty, then he should serve for life without parole...because the second conviction, boosts the belief that the first conviction was correct...

Many pedophiles do not physically murder their victims...but they damage them mentally for life, those victims often never recover from what was done to them...their families are torn apart, and suffer....so altho a pedophile may not have actually murdered a victim, that pedophile killed that victims childhood, and in many cases killed that victims chances at a normal, happy life...and for that, the pedophile deserves life in prison without parole, or even the death penalty...


13 posted on 07/06/2005 7:12:07 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Xenalyte

Poor analogy. Recidivism rates for such predators is high. We have all helped fund the studies. Quite often these vermin follow through with killing. Kind of like saying to a rape victim, "Hey, just lay back and enjoy!". At least it will not get you killed.
</ shaking head in utter amazement


14 posted on 07/06/2005 7:13:27 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocity of 11 Sept.)
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To: Xenalyte
...rape is not a capital crime.

Is not aggravated rape a capital crime in many states and punishable by death in a few? Kidnapping is certainly a capital level offense which applies to most child molesters. Cross a state line and it becomes a federal offense I believe.

It's time to make the judges liable for lenient sentencing and premature releases of these parasites.

15 posted on 07/06/2005 7:16:44 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: claudiustg
I used to think "why are they still on the street?"

Now I think "why are they still breathing?"

16 posted on 07/06/2005 7:19:01 PM PDT by Coastie ("You have to go out. You don't have to come back"- Old USCG motto.)
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To: claudiustg
Hang them.

Or bring back the electric chair. Warm it up with some brats first, pass the mustard and we can watch the show...

17 posted on 07/06/2005 7:29:42 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Xenalyte
...but child molestation is not a capital crime for the same reason rape is not a capital crime.

That actually depends on whether or not I'm making the arrest...

18 posted on 07/06/2005 7:33:09 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: CHARLITE
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
19 posted on 07/06/2005 7:33:36 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: CHARLITE
...a second chance, it must come under the most restrictive circumstances: life-long, electronic monitoring.

The kind of electronic monitoring I have in mind is life-long, but only lasts two minutes in a seated position...

21 posted on 07/06/2005 7:36:46 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: claudiustg
a few de-ballings wouldn't hurt either.
22 posted on 07/06/2005 7:40:21 PM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Ethyl
" I am sick and tired of letting perverts kill our childern, by some idiotic letter of some law???...or on innumerable technicalities, like the arresting officer left out one word in the "Miranda Warning," or because the criminal confessed before his court-appointed lawyer was present....or a myriad of other nonsensical excuses.

Thanks for your comment, Ethyl.

Char

23 posted on 07/06/2005 7:42:20 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Well, that goes without saying. ;)


24 posted on 07/06/2005 7:42:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Go Team Venture!)
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To: Ethyl

Take them out and beat them till there's nothing left but a bloody mess and leave the corpse rot on the side of the road for all to take notice!!!!


25 posted on 07/06/2005 7:46:38 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: claudiustg
I fully agree with your call for public hangings.

These are monsters. It seems to be a consensus of even the libbies that these demons cannot be cured.

A civilized society needs to eliminate those things which are so fatal to its core.
26 posted on 07/06/2005 7:49:39 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: blastdad51

Take them out and beat them till there's nothing left but a bloody mess and leave the corpse rot on the side of the road for all to take notice!!!!

Yea, we can do that too!!


27 posted on 07/06/2005 7:50:00 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: CHARLITE

Don't the readers of a Jewish paper know exactly what is required for this problem? How is it that they can blithely accept something other than the God required remedy?

The same goes for those who call themselves "Christian" and claim to follow The Jew.


28 posted on 07/06/2005 7:51:19 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda/Moral Absolutes Ping.

A two-fer, since at least one third of child molestations are homosexual in nature.

There is no reason not to execute child molesters, the first time. Why give them a chance to destroy more children? It is a fact that if/when a child molester is arrested, the perp has very likely committed other crimes with other children; he just happened to get caught this time. If he gets arrested again, it is very unlikely that the second arrest means only the second child he's molested.

Often the child molesters' victims number in the hundreds.

(Polly Klass' father's brain is warped, btw. I pity him because anyone whose child was kidnapped and murdered would have their life ruined.)

Forcible rape and child molestation used to be capital crimes, and there is no reason they shouldn't be now, except for the insidious creep of the disease of liberalism.
"Oh, the poor criminal. He had a bad childhood." So that makes it okay for him to make sure other people have bad childhoods?

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


29 posted on 07/06/2005 7:53:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: CHARLITE
Kidnapping in the state of Idaho is a capital crime under these circumstances. There are two official methods - lethal injection and (no kidding) firing squad.

Anyone want to read what's in Duncan's head? Click here. Now figure out if you want this guy as a neighbor.

30 posted on 07/06/2005 7:56:52 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CHARLITE

Send them to the Maker - it's cheaper and takes less time.


31 posted on 07/06/2005 7:57:53 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: All

A disclaimer - that link I just posted - be warned that you may not want to go there.


32 posted on 07/06/2005 7:58:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I always heard the prison population visited their own "justice" on child molesters/murderers. Whatever happened to that? We need to bring back that practice.


33 posted on 07/06/2005 8:03:31 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: CHARLITE
before lawmakers and the courts decide to keep certain classes of sexual predators behind bars permanently?

I don't want to pay for it.

Kill 'em.

34 posted on 07/06/2005 8:05:51 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

...but child molestation is not a capital crime for the same reason rape is not a capital crime.

Why Not?


35 posted on 07/06/2005 8:07:31 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: blastdad51

Take them out and beat them till there's nothing left but a bloody mess and leave the corpse rot on the side of the road for all to take notice!!!!



Nuff said.


36 posted on 07/06/2005 8:10:04 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: Timeout
I understand what you're saying, but with respect, depending on a bunch of felons to dispense justice is copping out. It's our responsibility. I am not a death penalty advocate particularly, but in this guy's case I'll happily pull the trigger myself.

There, I just disqualified myself from his jury.

37 posted on 07/06/2005 8:10:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: liliesgrandpa
"Any lawyer who gets a sex offender off, should have to have the sex offender live in his house with his small children."

"Justice" should mean "giving to each what is owed," (Polemarchus) if it is to be a meaningful concept in law.

Lawyers who work to thwart real justice by getting "notches" for winning cases on behalf of known child molesters, rapists, and murderers are, themselves, guilty of crimes against their fellow citizens.

Lawyers and judges who do not protect the most innocent, our children, from such criminals should be exposed. Your suggestion is one that has real merit and potential for shutting down the revolving door. If a lawyer uses technicalities or other trickeries in order to keep a child molester on the streets, then he should be willing to take him into his own home to mingle with his own children.

By the same token, judges who do not do whatever research it takes to be certain that they do not put these people back in the communities should be exposed for their lack of diligence in protecting the "people" they serve.

38 posted on 07/06/2005 8:17:49 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Billthedrill

Geeze man, warn someone better. I got to take a bath now. I feel dirty just reading that tripe. Duncan needs to die


39 posted on 07/06/2005 8:20:27 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: Billthedrill

I missed the warning.


40 posted on 07/06/2005 8:21:26 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: packrat35
Sorry - and I mean it. Shoulda been the first thing in the post.

The scary part is getting caught red-handed with a child he'd kidnapped and molested may have been one of the less serious things that he's done.

41 posted on 07/06/2005 8:34:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Xenalyte
And when all the pedophiles start killing their victims, so said victims can't ID them, that's gonna be LOTS better.

You bring up a very bad point -care not to elaborate..

42 posted on 07/06/2005 8:37:47 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: Billthedrill

I don't spook easily and I read a lot about killers and such but child molesters just creep me out. I hate them. That little girl is very ucky to be alive and I pray for her recovery.


43 posted on 07/06/2005 8:49:25 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: claudiustg
"Hang them. No lethal injections: they're not unwanted pets or something. "

Agreed. Life without parole does not cut it. Things change, politically and otherwise. When they reach the really golden years and more expensive to keep they can be turned loose as "harmless"....which they are not and never will be. A life sentence is no guarantee
44 posted on 07/07/2005 1:05:54 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: CHARLITE; All
No lockup.

Public execution, then leave the corpse in a gibbet.

Yes, I'm serious.

45 posted on 07/07/2005 3:17:03 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: mercy
Kinda like some RC Cardinals in the US.

I like how so many people throw out their anti-Catholic bigotry so easily. For example, they do so by bringing up pedophile priests but NEVER mention that most, if not all, pedophiles in the "RC" church were homosexuals who joined the priesthood because it was a fertile hunting ground for meeting other queers not to mention the easy access it gave them to helpless young boys.

46 posted on 07/07/2005 6:40:09 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: claudiustg

Put them out of their demonic misery! These people CANNOT be re-habilitated!


47 posted on 07/07/2005 6:43:31 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: CHARLITE
All good points.

The fact is though, these scums may not have physically maimed or killed their victims, but have maimed or killed their childhood, their innocence, and their faith in fellow men.

Not to mention that numerous reputable studies shown through the years a high, almost constant recidivism rate; filthy animals like John Couey admitting to police that they "can't stop"; despicable groups like NAMBLA and the ACLU defend these sickos; and the loony, bleeding-heart Liberals who are lenient with them and try to excuse their brazenly deviant behavior.

Put the pieces together, folks. These animals don't deserve mercy or "rights" by the sole common-sense reason that they systematically and intentionally denied those rights to their victims. Ergo, it is society's duty to inflict the ultimate of punishments--the death penalty.

Quite frankly, I believe that for child molestation, the minimum sentence should be life imprisonment, and if it was actual rape, the death penalty ought to be mandated in all 50 states and on the federal and military circuits.

Finally, said death sentences should be carried out without further ado, and the so-called "right to die humanely" should also be denied to these freaks. Death row inmates have no rights--they've harmed society so much as to merit death for their deeds.

Problem Solved--a dead molester cannot molest again--steadily bringing the recidivism rate down to a virtual zero.

48 posted on 07/07/2005 5:45:09 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Liberalism: How can we stick our feet in our mouth today??)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
"Quite frankly, I believe that for child molestation, the minimum sentence should be life imprisonment, and if it was actual rape, the death penalty ought to be mandated in all 50 states and on the federal and military circuits.

Nothing more needs to be said on this subject. This is the only solution. These freaks are incorrigible, by their own admissions.

I've only seen one molester (whose name escapes me ......Goldfarb?...or something like that), who is so far maintaining his "sobriety" and is attempting to work in the area as a kind of counselor. I've seen him several times on FNC, and he appears believable and sincere, but he is the one exception to the otherwise total recidivism with this sickness.

Thanks for your strong comments.

Char

49 posted on 07/07/2005 7:19:46 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE
Statement: "Lock each and every one of them up! - (life without possibiity of parole for child molesters!)"

Response: In the alternative there is the whip, the lash and the knout. Branding may help. A large CM burned into the center of the forehead would serve as a punishment and a warning to children if the perp gets out of jail free. Our system of penal justice is out of whack. Too much compassion for perps rather than a healthy lack of concern for the miserable little piece of fate. Do with them as one wills so to speak.

50 posted on 07/07/2005 7:26:56 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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