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THE RIGHT'S WAR ON PBS (reshaping PBS in the image of Fox News---indusrial strength barfer)
NY POST ^
| July 6, 2005
| LETTERS
Posted on 07/08/2005 5:30:24 AM PDT by Liz
As a widow on a very tight budget, I am utterly appalled by your callous editorial, "Put PBS Out to Pasture" (June 26). After my husband died last year, cable TV became a luxury I could no longer afford, so I said a reluctant farewell to MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News et al. Now PBS picks up the slack and for once I can honestly say that my tax dollars are well spent. Sharon Rutman Far Rockaway
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If conservative Republicans had their way, there would be no "public" anything. Everything would be privatized to benefit the greedy at the expense of the needy. It fits right into their "survival of the fittest" mindset. The common good that benefits all is totally absent from GOP thinking and practice. Paul L. Whiteley Sr. Louisville, Ky.
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PBS has, up to now, been recognized throughout the world as representing the greatness of the United States of America: unbiased, nonpolitical freedom of speech and expression by the citizens, the epitome of a democracy. But.....Republicans control Congress, which controls....funding. "He who holds the purse strings of the country, holds the power".......The goal: reshaping PBS in the image of Fox News.........Nicholas Zizelis Bayside
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: liberalmedia; lte; pbs
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:30:24 AM PDT
by
Liz
To: Liz
"If conservative Republicans had their way, there would be no "public" anything."
Whats this guy complaining about? Unfortunately, there arent many conservative Republicans. No "public" anything".
I like that!
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:33:50 AM PDT
by
LongsforReagan
(Not a Hannity Republican who just spouts talking points.)
To: Liz
...............PBS has, up to now, been recognized throughout the world as representing the greatness of the United States of America: unbiased, nonpolitical freedom of speech and expression by the citizens, the epitome of a democracy..........
This is the biggest, steaming pile of horse excrement that I think I've ever heard pass a dumba$$ liberal's lips. If the aficianados of PBS political commentary truly think this, then there is ultimately no hope for their enlightenment; they are lost forever.
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:35:21 AM PDT
by
Gaffer
To: Liz
LOL! The hysterical liberal magic 8 ball comes to mind--
"Question not compassionate. Hand over paycheck."
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:35:27 AM PDT
by
saveliberty
(Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
To: Liz
If conservative Republicans had their way, there would be no "public" anything. Yes there would - it would just not be ultra socialist garbage supported by our tax payer money...
It is funny how liberals can not stand when the rules they have used against us for 40 years are now used against them...
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:35:47 AM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: LongsforReagan
No "public" anything". I like that!I saw you running. Using up more than your allotted share of my local atmosphere. Don't worry, I'll send you a bill for the oxygen consumption.
Sorry pay, there are public goods out there. Although there would be distinct advantages to privatising, for instance, the oceans.
To: 2banana
"It is funny how liberals can not stand when the rules they have used against us for 40 years are now used against them..."
seems to me our rino congress just approved an expanded PBS funding ..our Congress is all talk about these issues at election time then they continue the socialist agenda when back in office..who's the jerks here??
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:39:54 AM PDT
by
ConsentofGoverned
(A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
To: Liz
PBS has, up to now, been recognized throughout the world as representing the greatness of the United States of America: unbiased, nonpolitical freedom of speech and expression by the citizens, the epitome of a democracy. Not in America, though. In America, we are not that easily fooled.
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:40:26 AM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: Liz
For once I can say my tax dollars are really misspent. PBS has an un-American bend, has been anti-religious and since paid TV (over the air) is a success, there is no need to spend my tax dollars on it.
Hopefully, the government will not expand their idiocy to make sure PBS is broadcast in Spanish as well. I already pay an additional tax for Spanish Cable channels that I do not use. As a matter of fact, none of my dollars should be spent on "the arts". If the arts are any good, they will be supported by those who like them, including Spanish language cable.
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:41:01 AM PDT
by
A.B.Normal
(Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
To: Liz
"....cable TV became a luxury I could no longer afford....Now PBS picks up the slack....I can honestly say that my tax dollars are well spent."
Ah yes - the Constitutional right to free television, (sure, you've seen it - it's right next to the Constitutional right to sodomy).
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:47:23 AM PDT
by
Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: Liz
PS, It was Colon Powell's son, "Little AH" @ the FCC who mandated that cable and satellite TV broadcasters must include 2 Spanish Language channels. I really object to this as it is a hidden TAX. Such action only causes a divide in America among those who have assimilated and those who refuse to do so, at the formers' expense. In addition,it facilitates the influx of illegals, making them feel more "at home"!
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:48:32 AM PDT
by
A.B.Normal
(Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
To: A.B.Normal
The dirty little secret PBS holds behind its back is their children's characters are worth millions a year in licensing fees, which they collect. This cash flow never appears on their books, however.
To: Liz
".......The goal: reshaping PBS in the image of Fox News.........Nicholas Zizelis Bayside
Yeah, then PBS would be centrist. Maybe after that we could get at least one conservative network.
To: Brilliant
....PBS recognized throughout the world.....as unbiased, nonpolitical freedom of speech and expression ..... Well, maybe in Zimbabwe.
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:48:55 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: A.B.Normal
.......It was Colon Powell's son, "Little AH" @ the FCC who mandated that cable and satellite TV broadcasters must include 2 Spanish Language channels. I really object to this as it is a hidden TAX. Such action only causes a divide in America among those who have assimilated and those who refuse to do so, at the formers' expense. In addition, it facilitates the influx of illegals, making them feel more "at home"!...... It's an outrage the sense of entitlement these self-serving illegals have.....that US taxpayers are their personal ATM, who should finance lifestyles they could never aspire to in their homelands.
It's time we labeled this financial heist as it really is---extortion of the working class by individuals with no legal status in this country.
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:54:09 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: Psalm 73
......and the "right" to kill the unborn, as well.........
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:57:07 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: Liz
em>" It's an outrage the sense of entitlement these self-serving illegals have.....that US taxpayers are their personal ATM, who should finance lifestyles they could never aspire to in their homelands." VERY WELL SAID.
I am wondering why we cannot deduct the prorated cost of the Spanish Channels from our Federal Income Tax return, in the same fashion as we can deduct State Sales Tax (this is the last year for that deduction.)
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:57:45 AM PDT
by
A.B.Normal
(Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hmmmmmmm, PBS' Enron-style accounting? Sarbanes-Oxley would cover that.
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posted on
07/08/2005 5:59:56 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: A.B.Normal
Risky. If you try it, the IRS may object.
Has anyone tried complaining about the latino channels to cable companies? Or to the municipalities that franchise them?
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:03:27 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: Liz
It's about to blow...
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:03:45 AM PDT
by
varyouga
To: varyouga
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:04:57 AM PDT
by
varyouga
To: varyouga

Hanging us out to dry.
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:07:53 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: Liz
IRS allowed millions of dollars in refunds based on Slavery Reparations, I doubt if they would even catch the deduction; but I am not advocating the presently illegal deduction. There is a need to challenge not getting credit for an unfair tax.
Remember when Reagan made people pay a "User's Fee" for entry into the Federal Parks? Why hasn't Bush done the same on Spanish Language TV, instead of implementing additional tax spending?
My protest? I walked into Comcast and dropped HBO. Then I dropped Comcast. There is no way around the garbage on Cable or Satellite, however, if everyone dropped cable, something would get through to the government.
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:12:06 AM PDT
by
A.B.Normal
(Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
To: Liz
But, but, but its a non-profit outfit, so Sarbanes-Oxley wouldn't apply.
To: Eric in the Ozarks; A.B.Normal; Brilliant; Psalm 73; geedee; Grampa Dave; Blurblogger; Fedora; ...
Eric in the Ozarks wrote: "The dirty little secret PBS holds behind its back is their children's characters are worth millions a year in licensing fees, which they collect. This cash flow never appears on their books, however."
REPLY PBS has a N/P Foundation where they are probably hiding the monies. The IRS is onto these non-profits, and is investigating them as we type.
Moreover, the IRS, FCC and SEC might determine whether PBS' corporate contributors--or individuals posing as corporate contributors--misused corporate reserve accounts, concealed losses, inflated asset values and improperly accounted for transactions, as well as deferring profits into reserve accounts, improperly shifting capital funding to other projects to hide illegal contributions, and so on.
The IRS, FCC and SEC might determine whether PBS business donors booked proper accounting procedures for the activities, whether they were inflating costs, and using income for the purposes stated.
We need to know the extent to which PBS donors engaged in Enron-style accounting and spending practices........and whether Global Crossing stock deals ala Terry McAuliffe took place.
Any of these practices could jeopardize the financial interests of stockholders and would compel the SEC to step in. EMAIL SEC here:
enforcement@SEC.gov Anyone with concerns about these issues should contact the
FCC. Links to contact FCC principals:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:eApUxAiR3RwJ:www.fcc.gov/contacts.html
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:48:12 AM PDT
by
Liz
(First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
To: Liz
Liquidate PBS. They can sell the children's characters to CBS, which would dramatically improve CBS's line up, and then PBS would be completely obsolete, and ready to be shut down. They could use the proceeds from those sales to reimburse the taxpayer for some of the subsidies they've received over the years.
To: Eric in the Ozarks
"....PBS holds behind its back is their children's characters are worth millions a year in licensing fees...."
I have always wondered - if these shows (Sesame Street, Arthur, etc,) are so popular (and they are) then why do we need to support them with tax dollars?
Surely they can (and do) generate enough advertising revenue to pay their own way.
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posted on
07/08/2005 6:56:42 AM PDT
by
Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: Psalm 73
As a matter of fact, they do. Congress has long known (and a couple of tell-all books have been published) about the self-dealing that goes on at PBS and NPR. In the Twin Cities, the GM of the local public radio station rakes in more than a half million dollars annually from merchandise sold over his "non-profit" station.
To: LongsforReagan
"If conservative Republicans had their way, there would be no "public" anything." My response:
If liberal Democrats had their way, there would be no "private" anything.
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posted on
07/08/2005 7:35:26 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
To: Liz; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; weegee
I rarely miss Brit Hume's
Special Report on Fox. I've become used to the sharp, tough questionssed on that broadcast, both by Hume and others.
Tuned in to PBS's News Hour last night and watched an interview conducted by Ray Suarez (like Geraldo, but without the flair). Could not believe what I was hearing. His questions were for the most part STUPID.
An example (not a direct quote): "Why is it important to catch the perpetrators of the London bombings?"
Defund PBS NOW.
To: Liz; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; weegee
See for yourself
here (first link: "The Challenges of Fighting Terrorism")
To: martin_fierro
Where PBS is so dangerous, is many of the lies/, mantras and hate GW crap of the street rats, comes from PBS. The rat believers treat the hate talk from PBS as gospel.
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posted on
07/08/2005 11:11:34 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
To: Liz; Calpernia
Thanks. BTW that reminds me, when I was looking up stuff on the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation's funding of socialized health care, it mentioned they were a big funder of PBS programs on that topic. I think I also noticed they or another left-wing philanthropy had someone on the PBS board of directors c. 1970, but I can't remember who at the moment.
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posted on
07/08/2005 12:49:41 PM PDT
by
Fedora
To: Gabz; Fedora
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posted on
07/08/2005 1:22:17 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; VPMWife78; cgk; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.
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posted on
07/10/2005 10:15:08 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
To: Liz; All
SHUT UP PBS only good thing for is Animals shows, Masterpiece theatre, and Brit comedies that is
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posted on
07/10/2005 10:20:48 PM PDT
by
SevenofNine
(Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
PBS has, up to now, been recognized throughout the world as representing the greatness of the United States of America: unbiased, nonpolitical freedom of speech and expression by the citizens, the epitome of a democracy.
Where to begin?
A) No one I've ever met abroad has ever heard of PBS.
B) PBS is hardly unbiased, nor nonpolitical.
C) The greatness of America is the freedom from government to have the opportunity to make the most of one's talents. At least it was before nimrods like this inflicted socialism on this country.
People this confused about our republic should not be allowed to vote.
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posted on
07/10/2005 10:35:20 PM PDT
by
jayhorn
(when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
To: nutmeg
To: nutmeg
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posted on
07/11/2005 6:54:23 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
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