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No 'sanctuaries' for illegals
Washtington Times ^

Posted on 07/08/2005 7:11:55 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Today, members of the violent street gang Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, include suspected criminals from Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico. Besides being tied to criminal acts within the United States, MS-13 is also believed to be running an alien-smuggling ring.

This presents an emerging national-security problem, especially if terrorist groups such as al Qaeda target MS-13 to help imbed its members in "cities of sanctuary." Eventually, terrorists will realize they can come to these communities to plan their next attack with relative safety.

Does this really seem reasonable, especially when we know terrorists continue to pursue American targets? The threat to the homeland remains very real. As a result, we must be vigilant, not complicit, in our response to terrorist movement.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; gangs; illegalalien; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; ms13
We are our own worst enemy.
1 posted on 07/08/2005 7:11:55 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Diogenesis; Boazo; Brad's Gramma; Smartass; SJackson; ...
Dateline 2005: America continues to import it's own demise via a violent illegal alien revolution by refusing to enforce immigration laws.

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This presents an emerging national-security problem, especially if terrorist groups such as al Qaeda target MS-13 to help imbed its members in "cities of sanctuary." Eventually, terrorists will realize they can come to these communities to plan their next attack with relative safety.

2 posted on 07/08/2005 7:16:22 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

We are our own worst enemy.
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Isn't it more accurate to say our governments, state and federal, might be our worst enemy? Who is letting them it? Who is not enforcing our borders? Who is deliberately passing more FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS (CAFTA) which will loosen our borders even more? WHO, WHO, WHO? Let's call a spade, a spade. Why is it we do not hear A SINGLE SOLITARY WORD FROM OUR "LEADERSHIP" in Washington?? Who is gagging the entire Congress (excepting Tancredo of course)?


3 posted on 07/08/2005 7:18:40 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Happy2BMe

Does this mean we can start bombing SanFransisco?

That would certainly clean up several messes at once! :)


4 posted on 07/08/2005 7:21:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: Happy2BMe

This will be the next big issue for the 2008 election. This has to be solved. We will make some reforms before then, but they will be largely cosmetic. It will take a major push to make the change.

Our biggest problem is trying to take the issue out of the realm of "racism". Buchannan tried to push this issue in 1998, but was painted as a racist. We have to treat it as a national security issue, but critics will use the race angle for leverage.

I think the best approach is to target the border populations that face the problems with illegal immigration (TX, NM, AS, & CA) and get them (Congressmen, Senators, & state legislators) to raise the issue as a national security issue. There is some recent effort to do this already in CA.


5 posted on 07/08/2005 7:31:59 AM PDT by reallygone
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To: EagleUSA

I wonder who paid who to keep Congress quiet?

Are all of our representatives on the take, except
one or two?

Why is my country being given up by my representatives
and why are my representatives showing a white flag of
surrender?

I would like some answers, yet no answers will come
out of Washington, DC., of that comment I'm certain.


6 posted on 07/08/2005 7:34:15 AM PDT by From One - Many
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To: From One - Many

I would like some answers, yet no answers will come
out of Washington, DC., of that comment I'm certain.
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And WHO is putting the gag on them? I cannot believe that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS DEAF AND DUMB TO THIS ISSUE!!! This is all just too scary.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 7:35:58 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA; From One - Many; Erik Latranyi; reallygone
I would like some answers, yet no answers will come out of Washington, DC., of that comment I'm certain."

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State labor officials complain about immigrant arrests on U.S. Air Force Base

8 posted on 07/08/2005 7:42:11 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Thanks for the ping.

Porter Goss couldn't have been clearer in his assessment that terrorists would likely try to smuggle a nuclear device or dirty bomb across the border. When theres big money involved...MS-13 will gladly hookup with Middle East based well financed operatives.

Smuggling of both men and materials is possible due to the large unsecured areas and the large influx of people. They can hide materials in plain site, and setup their smuggling infrastructure using illegals as a backbone.

The situation will be even more critical once Iran gets full nuclear capabilities...at that point it will be more than just a dirty bomb.

You cant spin it any more...act and act now.
9 posted on 07/08/2005 7:47:17 AM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: EagleUSA

I hope you are correct and our reps aren't blind, dumb, and deaf on this issue, yet where are and which of our reps are speaking up concerning this issue. Every American should wonder if we have already surrendered and lost the WOT, per the manner in which our reps are acting and displaying total disdain for securing our borders.


10 posted on 07/08/2005 7:52:34 AM PDT by From One - Many
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To: Dat Mon
"When theres big money involved...MS-13 will gladly hookup with Middle East based well financed operatives."

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America's Most Dangerous Gang - MS13 - Violent, Vicious, and Spreading Fast.

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"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans." --Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

11 posted on 07/08/2005 7:53:25 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: From One - Many; EagleUSA
It's got to be about money and power. That's the only thing that politicians care about. They stop illegals, and the sub-servant base dries up. Thus the economy takes a short time dive. No politician seems to care about the long term problem. The Balkanization of America.
12 posted on 07/08/2005 7:59:21 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: stevio

No politician seems to care about the long term problem. The Balkanization of America.
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Precisely. This is the mode Washington is in -- pure short term political gain and to hell with the future of America. Voters need to carry that REALITY to the voting booth and as far as I am concerned, it is time for a strong THIRD PARTY that is willing to fight for, and preserve America as it was defined in our treasured documents.


13 posted on 07/08/2005 8:03:48 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA; Congressman Billybob
You beat me to placing the blame where it belongs....I am not my worst enemy...our "leaders" are. Until we can change the people who are willing to run for office(who some would call "radicals")into people who don't give a rat's ass what the American hating judges, the MSM, the ACLU et al say, and who are willing to tell these people to go 'f themselves AND have not a politically correct bone in their body..we are doomed. If the same old people run year after year, and nobody opposes them, we will have the same old policies and practices running things.

We need to draft some young, agressive Freepers to run for Congress...I know that we have some here that would do fine...Congressman Billybob et al

14 posted on 07/08/2005 8:04:50 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Liberalism and islam are terminal.......)
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To: EagleUSA

The American Revolution was only supported by 1/3 of the population. We easily have that now.


15 posted on 07/08/2005 8:05:27 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: stevio

The American Revolution was only supported by 1/3 of the population. We easily have that now.
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That is correct, and a new political party of REAL AMERICANS, could be that one third.


16 posted on 07/08/2005 8:06:27 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA; Congressman Billybob
Sorry, the second line should read

Until we can change the people who are willing to run for office into people(who some would call "radicals") who don't give a rat's ass what the American hating judges, the MSM, the ACLU et al say, and who are willing to tell these people to go 'f themselves AND have not a politically correct bone in their body..we are doomed.

17 posted on 07/08/2005 8:14:47 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Liberalism and islam are terminal.......)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; ...
Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
Click to FR-mail me for addition or removal

Keep yer powder dry...

18 posted on 07/08/2005 8:16:07 AM PDT by HiJinx (Let's put Blockbuster in charge of immigration ~ two days late and WHAMMO!!!)
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To: Happy2BMe
It's just hard to comprehend how ANYONE could turn a blind eye to such a dangerous situation. ANYONE who would allow a situation to exist knowing that it could result in the deaths of so many Americans is worse than ANY of those terrorists!

NM has a law that states that ANYONE who fails to act to prevent a person's death or harm, can be arrested for contributory negligence simply for their inaction. It seems to me that our congresscritters who have failed to protect us should be brought up on charges.

19 posted on 07/08/2005 8:19:45 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Something ate my tag line.....)
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To: Happy2BMe
Eventually, terrorists will realize they can come to these communities to plan their next attack with relative safety.

Eventually? My guess is they figured it out long ago.

20 posted on 07/08/2005 8:20:22 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Happy2BMe

Growing up in Jersey in the 50's just a short city bus ride from NYC was a melting pot experiance. I recall one time in particular. Living there was an experiance, people were from all over. One member of our little neighborhood gang was from Central America. He showed up one day at our hangout with his newly arrived cousin. Beginning with all the swear words popular with young boys, we slowly helped him in learning English. His cousin, already knowing english, was a big help with this. Soon enough he had melted right in. Welcome to America......What the HELL happened to the country since then?


21 posted on 07/08/2005 8:45:53 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Happy2BMe

*ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS PING*


22 posted on 07/08/2005 8:51:39 AM PDT by Minnesocold (Truth itself is the one enemy against which liberalism cannot prevail. -Christopher Adamo)
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To: Happy2BMe
Officials Traitors in San Diego, Houston, Los Angeles and Minneapolis have implemented policies restricting coordination with federal authorities. Most recently, the governor Dictator of Maine announced an executive order that prohibits the state from enforcing federal immigration laws.
23 posted on 07/08/2005 8:54:03 AM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: EagleUSA
Why is it we do not hear A SINGLE SOLITARY WORD FROM OUR "LEADERSHIP" in Washington??

More and more Americans want to know the answer to this question. Other questions we want the answers to:

WHY ARE OUR BORDERS STILL VIRTUALLY OPEN IN A TIME OF WAR AND TERRORISM?

WHY AREN'T EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS BEING STRONGLY ENFORCED IN A TIME OF WAR AND TERRORISM??

SPEAK UP, WASHINGTON!!

24 posted on 07/08/2005 8:54:14 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

BTTT!


25 posted on 07/08/2005 8:55:17 AM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: janetgreen

WHY ARE OUR BORDERS STILL VIRTUALLY OPEN IN A TIME OF WAR AND TERRORISM?

WHY AREN'T EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS BEING STRONGLY ENFORCED IN A TIME OF WAR AND TERRORISM??
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I cannot understand why this BLATANT, IN-YOUR-FACE obstruction of justice (effectively), this creation of a double legal standard in terms of obeying our laws, the disregard of the Presidential oath, to protect and defend not only the Constitution, but our soverignty....all of the sudden Washington is totally disregarding America and its people, for some wild, destructive, elitist-driven agenda AT THE TOTAL EXPENSE OF AMERICA, ITS CONSTITUTION AND ITS PEOPLE!!!

What planet am I on ???



26 posted on 07/08/2005 9:00:14 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
What planet am I on ???

America is becoming unrecognizable. Where have the real American patriots gone? They're not in Washington, that's for sure.

27 posted on 07/08/2005 9:20:20 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


28 posted on 07/08/2005 11:07:47 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: EagleUSA; janetgreen; stevieo
Actually, Tancredo has been trying to get a measure passed that would withhold highway funding from states and municipalities who declare themselves sanctuaries while selectively disregarding Federal law. This tactic was extremely successful toward getting seat belt laws passed nationwide in the 1980s.

From: Summary of Amendments Submitted to the Rules Committee on H.R. 3550 - TRANSPORTATION EQUITY ACT: RULE TO PROVIDE FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 3550, AND AMENDMENTS MADE IN ORDER

"Withholds an escalating amount of highway apportionments (starting with 5% in FY06 and capping out at 25% in FY 2010) from those states that have enacted “sanctuary laws”(laws that prohibit states or local government entities or officials from sending to, or receiving from the Department of Homeland Security information regrading an individuals citizenship or immigration status)."

Of course, it was not passed.

29 posted on 07/08/2005 11:10:29 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Tancredo has been trying to get a measure passed that would withhold highway funding from states and municipalities....
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Well, the rotten leftists running California just voted down a measure to deny benefits to illegals -- can you freakin' believe it? These maggots will do ANYTHING FOR A VOTE including destroying the state, hosing the taxpayers and supporting the breaking of laws...all for the sake of POWER AND CONTROL.


30 posted on 07/08/2005 11:17:33 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
Well, the rotten leftists running California just voted down a measure to deny benefits to illegals

Just as planned, the hispanic power base in CA is growing in order to keep the invasion coming.

The inmates are running the asylum - coming to all states soon unless those who are SUPPOSED to be representing American citizens put a stop to the madness.

Warning to those in other states - YOU HAVE NO IDEA what is going on until it takes hold in your state. Fight to keep it from happening!

31 posted on 07/08/2005 11:28:40 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: B.O. Plenty; Gipper08; EagleUSA; Congressman Billybob; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Smartass; devolve
#14 - any takers?

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"We need to draft some young, agressive Freepers to run for Congress...I know that we have some here that would do fine.."

32 posted on 07/08/2005 11:38:00 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: NRA2BFree
"It's just hard to comprehend how ANYONE could turn a blind eye to such a dangerous situation. ANYONE who would allow a situation to exist knowing that it could result in the deaths of so many Americans is worse than ANY of those terrorists!"

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Comprehension does indeed help sir . .

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State labor officials complain about immigrant arrests on U.S. Air Force Base

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Immigration Arrests at Air Force Base Net 49 Contract Workers With Fake Papers

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Immigrant arrests on post double

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Illegal Alien Gets Into Nuclear Plant

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Is your security guard an illegal alien?

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Illegal Alien Girls Held On Fear of Suicide Bombing Plot

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Illegal Alien Rights 'Job #1' for Homeland Nominee

* * *

20 (illegal alien) suspects carried N.C. licenses (& a “plethora” of worrisome documents)

33 posted on 07/08/2005 11:41:07 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Happy, Here is an image from a concerned citizen's website showing that Bush, while governor of Texas, demanded the feds control the borders. Can you post this to everyone?


34 posted on 07/08/2005 1:23:29 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Happy2BMe; HiJinx; B4Ranch; Travis McGee; Seadog Bytes; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ...


 B O R D E R S 
  Sean Hannity & MMP  




-- large BG graphic swiped from FReeper Seadog Bytes


35 posted on 07/08/2005 5:59:12 PM PDT by devolve (-------------------------------------------------)
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To: reallygone

Unfortunately for conservatives, Hillary Clinton is making the issue of illegal immigration a big one for her own benefit...

Where Republicans are on this issue is just silent. It certainly has a lot to do with that "available worker" issue for many Republican-owned businesses, which is a shame because they're engaging in a an option a lot of the rest of us don't respect (employing illegal immigrants because they're cheaper [for the employer in the immediate] than American workers [who are more valuable to the country for many other important reasons).


36 posted on 07/08/2005 6:47:14 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: devolve

Oooooh!

That's very good!


37 posted on 07/08/2005 7:01:33 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats." M. Bowers)
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To: raybbr; Happy2BMe

Stolen to my profile page.

The change from Governor to President was painful for America!


38 posted on 07/08/2005 8:05:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: raybbr
Thank you, Raybbr.

Mind me asking you where the source of that letter was?

39 posted on 07/08/2005 9:51:24 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

"We have met the enemy and he's us." - Pogo


40 posted on 07/08/2005 9:55:35 PM PDT by TAquinas (Benedictus XVI: The Enforcer. The Restorer. The Uniter.)
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To: HiJinx

"Keep yer powder dry..."

Good reminder.

The enemy is getting stronger and more numerous with each passing day, while our people are sleeping at the wheel.

Immigration is destroying and will eventually destroy this country.


41 posted on 07/08/2005 10:03:23 PM PDT by TAquinas (Benedictus XVI: The Enforcer. The Restorer. The Uniter.)
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MS 13 is basically a terrorist organization all by itself. They just don't run planes into buildings.

As for 2006 and beyond, I will vote for a politician that has a plan to shore up the borders. I don't care if he's a "D," an "R," an "L," an "S," a "MF," or an "SOB." If no one distinguishes himself in that regard, no one gets my vote. We must get this border closed if we are to continue as a sovereign country.

42 posted on 07/08/2005 10:10:03 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Mind me asking you where the source of that letter was?

I found it at: CT Citizens for Immigration Control

43 posted on 07/09/2005 3:23:16 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Looks valid - thanks!


44 posted on 07/09/2005 4:45:24 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
I did a search for Bush's opinion piece that he references in the letter. It's entitled "Slamming Mexico won't help U.S."

The piece by Bush starts out:

" Remember who your friends are. Always good advice in life.

And now, words to keep in mind as the rhetoric of the 1996 election begins.

Mexico currently wears the bright red bull's-eye in the ongoing political cross fire.

The issues of the 1996 campaign will be emotional. There should be lively debate and discussion. But discussion about immigration and Mexico can turn ugly and destructive very quickly, severely damaging a positive and beneficial relationship."

I was not able to buy the archive file easily so I have given up. I tried to find it on the Texas Governor's website but there seems to be no archive.

All in all, Bush's stance on mexico is clear: He will do anything in his power to help that backwater country. Even if it means costing the U.S. billions of dollars and a reduction in soveriegnty.

I have never been able to find out why he loves mexico and mexicans so much.

To others that will cry racism on my part ask yourself this: Have any of Bush's proposals (re: immigration) been as beneficial to any other group as they have been to mexicans/hispanics?

45 posted on 07/09/2005 4:58:19 AM PDT by raybbr
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