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CIA Leak Prosecutor After Karl Rove
NewsMax.com ^ | July 8, 2005 | NewsMax

Posted on 07/08/2005 11:21:00 AM PDT by kddid

Now that Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper has agreed to testify regarding the leaking of a CIA operative’s identity, speculation continues to mount that Cooper will name presidential adviser Karl Rove as a source for his story.

And even though Rove’s lawyer has said that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald assured him Rove is not a target of his investigation, "Fitzgerald still appears to want more answers about Rove’s role,” according to the Washington Post.

Cooper finally agreed to testify just hours before he expected to be sent to jail for contempt of court, along with New York Times reporter Judith Miller. Cooper said his turnaround came because a source had released him from his pledge of confidentiality.

Rove’s attorney Robert Luskin told the Post that Rove wasn’t that source.

But the Post reports: "More evidence points to Rove as the source Cooper was seeking to protect – although what information was provided is not clear.”

Luskin admits that Rove spoke to Cooper in July 2003, a week before media reports revealed the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame, the wife of Bush administration critic and former special U.S. envoy Joseph Wilson.

Luskin maintains that Rove "absolutely did not identify Valerie Plame.” But the Post states that Fitzgerald "is apparently focused on Rove’s conversations with Cooper.”

Wilson has said in the past that he suspected Rove played a role in revealing his wife’s cover.

Wilson believes the White House leaked her name in retaliation for a July 2003 article in the New York Times written by Wilson, accusing the administration of using bogus intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Leading White House critic Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) has gone so far as to call for President Bush to force Rove to explain his role in the Plame affair or resign from office.

But the White House has long maintained that Rove was not involved in disclosing Plame’s identity.

And attorney Luskin stated: "It is certainly my understanding that Karl has testified absolutely truthfully about all his conversations about everybody that he has been asked about.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; joewilson; karlrove; patrickfitzgerald; plame; rove
according to the Washington Post.

Is the Washington Post an honest paper, or do they just want it to be Rove? Really, I get the papers mixed up.

1 posted on 07/08/2005 11:21:00 AM PDT by kddid
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To: kddid

They don't just want it to be Rove, they are DYING for it to be Rove...


2 posted on 07/08/2005 11:24:51 AM PDT by sofaman
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To: kddid
And even though Rove’s lawyer has said that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald assured him Rove is not a target of his investigation,

FWIW, "target" is a very specific term given only to someone about whom the prosecutor already has evidence linking that person to a crime. If the prosecutor believes that person has committed a crime but has no evidence, that person would not be a "target," even though he could very well end up being charged. In that situation, the person would be a "subject."

So saying he is "not a target" simply means that at this point Fitzgerald does not have evidence he can use to prosecute him, but it does NOT mean that Fitzgerald is not trying to gather that evidence.

Just wanted to make that clear.

3 posted on 07/08/2005 11:25:11 AM PDT by arbusto99
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To: kddid

It's obviously someone. The question is who? I'm guessing Tenet.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 11:32:55 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Joe Wilson himself?


5 posted on 07/08/2005 11:34:17 AM PDT by slyfoxvirden
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To: Brilliant

Good guess. "Slam Dunk" Tenet never could control his mouth.


6 posted on 07/08/2005 11:37:09 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: slyfoxvirden

I think that Wilson is at the top of the list of most likely suspects. I heard yesterday that he's begun condemning the investigation itself.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 11:39:23 AM PDT by twigs
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To: kddid
If you pile enough layers of speculation on top of each other you can almost get a story out of it.
8 posted on 07/08/2005 11:39:47 AM PDT by Moral Hazard (I question the bargaining power of the Union of the Snake.)
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To: Brilliant

Tenet or an aide is a good possibility, given they had a motive to undermine Wilson.


9 posted on 07/08/2005 11:39:49 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: sofaman
They don't just want it to be Rove, they are DYING for it to be Rove...

If it was Rove the press would not have been protecting him; they would have been shouting it from the mountaintops. Well, maybe not the mountaintops. They would have been shouting it from the balconies of their penthouse apartments.

10 posted on 07/08/2005 11:41:41 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Shermy

A point to consider.

is Valerie Plame her real name? That may be her cover "real name". This sounds devious, but its done. If that is her cover "real name", she hasn't been exposed in the slightest.

From ORBAT.COM


11 posted on 07/08/2005 11:42:33 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: kddid

Ping.


12 posted on 07/08/2005 11:43:03 AM PDT by Calusa (Say Nick, was ya ever stung by a dead bee?)
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To: kddid

who cares if it's Rove? double standard? you bet!


13 posted on 07/08/2005 11:43:25 AM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: massgopguy

Novak has already said that he called Tenet to get a confirmation, and Tenet told him that he could not confirm whether she was a CIA operative. Apparently, Novak took that to mean that he was not denying it. In reality, Tenet was afraid that he would be violating the law if he told him she was an operative. And he did not want to lie to him by telling him she was not.

What he should have done is tell him "If she is an operative, then I cannot tell you because it's a felony to disclose the name of an operative."


14 posted on 07/08/2005 11:43:37 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: kddid
Now that Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper has agreed to testify regarding the leaking of a CIA operative’s identity, speculation continues to mount that Cooper will name presidential adviser Karl Rove as a source for his story.

Oh no! Not mounting speculation!

15 posted on 07/08/2005 11:44:28 AM PDT by alnick ("I will continue to be guided by the advice that matters." GWB 6/28/05)
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To: kddid
Three different reporters...

Three different answers.

16 posted on 07/08/2005 11:47:24 AM PDT by airborne
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To: kddid
More evidence points to Rove as the source Cooper was seeking to protect

And pigs are lining up on airport runways.

17 posted on 07/08/2005 11:50:28 AM PDT by anonymous_user (You gotta be passionate about something. I guess.)
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To: twigs
Wilson's backpedaling is the most interesting part of all of this. And if it was indeed Rove that released Cooper from the confidentiality...that speaks volumes IMO.
18 posted on 07/08/2005 11:53:30 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: swarthyguy; cyncooper

"Is Valerie Plame her real name? That may be her cover "real name". This sounds devious, but its done. If that is her cover "real name", she hasn't been exposed in the slightest."

I suspect no one told Novak or Cooper Plame's name. Whoever started it just said "wife."

Clues: Novak said her name is in "Who's Who in America." Recently Joe Wilson said his wife has gone by the family name "Wilson" since they were married. So, I suspect Novak in pursuit of his amibition to shame the Bush Admin from "hiring" people who might undermine him ran with the "leak" and I bet "Plame" is the name listed in Who's Who for Wilson's wife. Also, the leaker did not mention the wife for her to be outed, but to color the story why Wilson was hired.

The "leakers" may be many, and it appears the reporters told "White House officials" about Wilson's wife, not the other was around, at least at first.

The Rove stuff is nonsense, spewed by O'Donnell, meat for the Rove-obssessives. Cooper had two articles, he spoke to many people. Also, the person who leaked might have had doubts about WMD's, even anti-Bush, but still recognized Wilson's role as insignificant, even deceitful.


19 posted on 07/08/2005 11:55:31 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: airborne

I think the MSM is just trying to splat up as much mud as possible in order to scream conspiracy after teh truth comes up.

They probably KNOW who it is and just say rove to sell a few more newspapers to their core left wing readers.


20 posted on 07/08/2005 11:56:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Brilliant

"Novak has already said that he called Tenet to get a confirmation,"

You sure about that?


21 posted on 07/08/2005 12:02:55 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: anonymous_user
Liberal game plan:

It's not whether it's true or false, it's the seriousness of the charge against Rove that matters!
22 posted on 07/08/2005 12:07:24 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline snapped the last time the MSM blew smoke up my ass. Now its gone forever.)
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To: slyfoxvirden

My money's on Bill Clinton. No leftie newspaper would go this far to protect Karl Rove. PAAAALLLLEEEESE


23 posted on 07/08/2005 12:10:10 PM PDT by marty60
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To: arbusto99; kddid
Just wanted to make that clear.

Another thing which needs to be made clear is that there is no evidence any crime has actually been committed.

This is all just the media chumming the waters.

24 posted on 07/08/2005 12:13:27 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: slyfoxvirden

That's my bet... the guys a mega-turd.


25 posted on 07/08/2005 12:20:49 PM PDT by johnny7 ('Deservin ain't got 'nothin to do with it! -Will Money)
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To: ladiesview61

Exactly. Even if true, if as part of the exececutive branch, he was acting in the interest of national security, who cares.


26 posted on 07/08/2005 12:27:17 PM PDT by balch3
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To: kddid

Sure, they're salivating for it to be Rove.

Even if it is (and I don't think it is), so what?

Sandy Berger gets away with far worse and CIA intelligence is routinely leaked to the NY Times and the Post during the election season. Nothing short of an MSM inspired coup, complete with the CIA's help. I haven't heard of too many 'leaks' from 'intelligence officials' since Porter Goss took over. I'm hoping he gets the support he needs to make a difference.


27 posted on 07/08/2005 12:37:00 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: cyncooper; Fedora; swarthyguy

Regarding Who's Who in America it lists Wilson's wife as " Valerie Elise Plame ." So, given Novak's mention of the publication, and Wilson's statements that she used "Wilson" since their marriage in the 90's, I think that supports the story that Novak's "leakers" didn't mention her name but said only "wife" and Novak went to the publication to get a name.

If so, Novak himself took extraordinary efforts to out Wilson's wife, by name. Mean guy.


28 posted on 07/09/2005 4:07:13 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Wouldn't he have to already know her maiden name was Plame to look her up by that entry, though? Seems like he'd still need some source of information to connect Valerie Wilson to the name "Plame". If she put "Valerie Plame Wilson" on a credit card or utility bill or something he may have connected the two names through a public records search; or he could've searched for information on Wilson himself and found a common address or phone number linking him to Valerie Plame. However when I do a public records search, I come up with Joseph C. Wilson and Valerie Plame listed at different addresses, so I can't confirm that there's any records which would've enabled Novak to make that connection; though of course there may be records out there that aren't turning up in my search.


29 posted on 07/09/2005 4:44:12 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Shermy
Doh! I'm rereading Novak's second article now and I see he was talking about Wilson's Who's Who entry, not Plame's. [Emily Litella voice] Never mind :-)
30 posted on 07/09/2005 4:46:58 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: sofaman

DSM, new torture photos, Election Fraud, no wmd's, now Karl Rove, the left are so funny!!!!!!

Always bringing up BS, perhaps if they had enough balls, Bin laden would be caught by now.

The Rove story will go nowhere, if its not him it will die, and if it is him which I doubt it, it was just a mistake, this wont hurt Bush at all.


31 posted on 07/10/2005 12:07:55 AM PDT by mikenash
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To: mikenash
perhaps if they had enough balls, Bin laden would be caught by now.

If who had enough balls? Sorry, I'm confused. The media? The military? The Democrats? The Republicans? The White House? Just whose balls are you referring to?

32 posted on 07/11/2005 10:09:46 AM PDT by RustysGirl
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