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'TERROR' CELLS KO'D IN TUNNELS
NY Post ^ | 7/11/05 | LARRY CELONA

Posted on 07/11/2005 7:25:18 AM PDT by since1868

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To: Kozak

You are correct but - we have to fight as we can fight, we have to disrupt their current plans. Of course they will compensate and work around us, but we will also compensate and work around any of their efforts we become aware of.

I am proud that they are working on actions that will disrupt the terror plans. So much better to miss a phone call than to have to dig 100 bodies out of the subway. This is not permanent, but we have to fight as we can fight - otherwise, we are just sheep being slaughtered at the whim of the terrorists.

In wartime when the bombs were raining on England, they did not complain that their freedom to stay out in the street was taken away. They fought with what they had and we will do the same to protect our families.


21 posted on 07/11/2005 7:57:57 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: since1868

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


22 posted on 07/11/2005 7:59:11 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Yea, but this only causes them to use a different type of detonator, such as a timer or a homocide bomber.


23 posted on 07/11/2005 8:01:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: DBrow

I live in Northern Va. everything looks suspicious around here.


24 posted on 07/11/2005 8:01:47 AM PDT by since1868
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To: since1868

Point the first, the London bombs used timers, not cellphones.

Point the second, the bad guys, if you don't detain them, will find a way to wreak havoc, one way or another.

Point the third, I guess in the minds of the Port Authority folk, no one ever needs to call for a cop, firefighter or ambulance while in the tunnels.

When are the "ones what be's in charge" stop the knee-jerk responses and work proactively (i.e., securing the borders and going after the bad guys who are already here)?


25 posted on 07/11/2005 8:03:09 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: kharaku
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Indeed.

26 posted on 07/11/2005 8:03:32 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: mhking
Point the third, I guess in the minds of the Port Authority folk, no one ever needs to call for a cop, firefighter or ambulance while in the tunnels

I thought of that.But 15 years ago very few people had cell phones.So I guess we are regressing

27 posted on 07/11/2005 8:05:58 AM PDT by since1868
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To: RazorGhost
Not to be a nitpicker, but (according to the british police) didn't the bombs has timers?

When you want to restrict Liberty and control people any excuse is good enough.

Did you really think all 500 or so pages of the 'Patriot' Act were written after 9/11?

28 posted on 07/11/2005 8:06:29 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: mhking

>>>>Point the third, I guess in the minds of the Port Authority folk, no one ever needs to call for a cop, firefighter or ambulance while in the tunnels.

There are call boxes in the tunnels.


29 posted on 07/11/2005 8:07:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ClancyJ

OK, you're on the A train, and you get a glimpse inside a backpack, and see an orange brick of Semtex and some wires.

How do you report it? Hmmm?


30 posted on 07/11/2005 8:10:13 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: null and void; mhking

Ok. I just read Null and Void's point.

I take back my pointing out that there are call boxes in the tunnels.


31 posted on 07/11/2005 8:11:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: null and void
"Did you really think all 500 or so pages of the 'Patriot' Act were written after 9/11?"

Ewwwwww. Interesting question.

32 posted on 07/11/2005 8:13:30 AM PDT by BBT
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To: null and void
Did you really think all 500 or so pages of the 'Patriot' Act were written after 9/11?

Fascinating...

33 posted on 07/11/2005 8:15:17 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: Calpernia

That, and where would FLT 93 have ended up if the current ban on cell phones had been in place on 9/11? The passengers would have blissfully sat there assuming they were under the old rules:

The plane is hijacked. Flown somewhere. Threats are made. Demands are voiced. Compromises reached. Pretty much everyone goes home with an interesting story to tell their grandkids.

Would we have lost Congress? The White House? Or what?


34 posted on 07/11/2005 8:17:21 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

>Darn good idea<

I understand your motive, I really do. However, what happens to the person who is mugged, and cannot call for help, or whose family member is stricken with a heart attack, and cannot reach the person on the subway, or any number of other scenarios?

The terrorists win, in either case.


35 posted on 07/11/2005 8:19:22 AM PDT by Darnright ( Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before)
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To: mhking; BBT

'They' (not to sound too paranoid) have reams of laws just waiting for an incident to sway public support in their direction.

Everyone does it. It's simply the prudent thing for anyone with an Agenda and a Dream to do.


36 posted on 07/11/2005 8:20:36 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: null and void

I know - it is a problem. But, the only option available is to disrupt their plans. Now, they don't have the satisfaction of knowing that their cell phone activated plans will work. And, we can turn the signal back on when we wish.

I would expect we will see continual disruption moves by our Homeland Security. Why give the enemy free reign over our systems. Make it as hard as possible on them and keep throwing them off their game.


37 posted on 07/11/2005 8:23:47 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: null and void
No, you are absolutely right. I didn't think of it that way.

RE: to the patriot act 'appearing' post 9/11.

There is no dispute that the admin knew there was a threat. The dispute is how much was known about the threat to stop it.

Doesn't the response teams always have in place multiple response contingencies? If A happens than response B or C can be taken.

Couldn't the Patriot Act have been part of a contingency response?
38 posted on 07/11/2005 8:24:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: null and void
"and you get a glimpse inside a backpack"

It is too late to report...you react.

39 posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:48 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: null and void

Did you really think all 500 or so pages of the 'Patriot' Act were written after 9/11?

Good point. Much of what people complain about in the Patriot Act is really the Antiterrorism Act of 1995, whooshed through Congress after OKC by Bill C and Janet R.

Check it out- library records, no-announce searches, increased wiretap capabilities.


40 posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:56 AM PDT by DBrow
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