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To: Always Right
"a student goes to jail if they say the word Jesus in a Graduation Speech"

I'm not gonna be as generous as highball. I'm calling this one what it is - an outright lie.

22 posted on 07/11/2005 1:58:59 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
I'm not gonna be as generous as highball. I'm calling this one what it is - an outright lie.

You ought to cut people who disagree with you a little bit of slack. It isn't right to question people's motives that way. Maybe next time it will be you with slightly inaccurate information. You wouldn't want to be called a liar. In any case, Always Right's comment was uncomfortably close to reality:

"In the May 1995 case of Jane Doe v. Santa Fe Independent School District, Federal District Judge Samuel Kent placed severe restrictions on voluntary, student-initiated prayer. Additionally, Judge Kent ruled voluntary, student-initiated prayer at graduation ceremonies and athletic events was permissible only with court-ordered restrictions on the content of prayer.

In his oral opinion, Judge Kent stated: "And make no mistake, the Court is going to have a U.S. Marshall in attendance at the graduation. If any student offends this Court, that student will be summarily arrested and face up to 6 months incarceration in the Galveston County jail..." Judge Kent went on to say: "Anybody who violates these orders, no kidding, is going to wish he or she had died as a child when this court gets through with them."

http://txgop.org/newsroom/newsDisplay.php?id=103

24 posted on 07/11/2005 2:45:22 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: lugsoul
I'm not gonna be as generous as highball. I'm calling this one what it is - an outright lie.

Oh blow it out your butt. You think it is far fetched that someone goes to jail for saying a prayer? The ACLU recently filed a motion to do just that. We haven't got there yet, but we within a few years it will happen:

Christians Could be Sent to Jail for Praying in School
6/10/2005
By Mario Diaz

In their latest attack on Christianity, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has filed a motion to hold Tangipahoa school board officials in Louisiana in contempt of court, asking they be jailed for praying in schools.

The Tangipahoa school board and the ACLU of Louisiana entered into an agreement, made public in an August 27, 2004, District Court Consent Judgment, which required school officials to prohibit “invocations given prior to athletic events,” “participation and/or encouragement by school officials in pre-game and post-game prayers involving student athletes,” and “invocations by students to the student body over the school’s public address system during assemblies or at any school sponsored event.” The ACLU claims school officials have violated the agreement on multiple occasions. This motion is the fourth complaint they’ve filed against the school board.

Even though this is considered a civil matter, the ACLU has asked the court to hold school officials in criminal contempt, asking for jail time. “Their refusal to comply with the Consent Decree should and must result in their removal from society—removal for a period of time sufficient to impress upon them, and like imitators, the seriousness of the Court’s order,” reads the complaint. “Anything short of actual imprisonment would be ineffective to sending that message to these individuals.”

32 posted on 07/11/2005 9:56:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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