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Hayworth: Americans should know TB, leprosy, polio, have been linked to illegal immigrants
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Posted on 07/11/2005 11:40:24 AM PDT by hsmomx3

"Americans should be told that diseases long eradicated in this country — tuberculosis, leprosy, polio, for example — and other extremely contagious diseases have been linked directly to" illegal immigrants, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.) told the Business Journal of Phoenix last month.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; diseases; illeagals; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa; jdhayworth; leprosy; medicaid; mexifornia; polio; publichealth; tb; tuberculosis
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1 posted on 07/11/2005 11:40:28 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

Somehow I don't imagine the lame stream media will be reporting this. This would be a good O'Reilly segment though.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 11:46:54 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: hsmomx3

Shhhh, it's a secret. Only racists say stuff like that you know. These diseases are only going to kill people that other diseases won't.


3 posted on 07/11/2005 11:47:04 AM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: hsmomx3

I suspect that if governors, senators, and congresscritters (and their families) contract the above mentioned diseases we'd see some action on the border in short order.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 11:49:58 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: hsmomx3

It has been reported that there are at least FIFTEEN THOUSAND CASES OF TUBERCULOSIS a year in America and at a cost of between TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND AND ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS EACH TO TREAT!

You do the math, but at an average of 850 thousand dollars each, that 12.750 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!(and American taxpayers are paying the tab...ya reeeeely didn't think any of these illegals have Blue Cross or Blue Shield now did ya.)

Thank you GWB for securing the borders and deporting the illegals!


5 posted on 07/11/2005 11:53:38 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Happy2BMe


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 11:53:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: hsmomx3; All
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For "Thunder on the Border," click this picture:


7 posted on 07/11/2005 11:54:48 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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8 posted on 07/11/2005 11:57:34 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: hsmomx3; Millee; Mr. Keys

I'm all in favor of cracking down on illegal immigrants, but it's important to keep one's facts straight in the process, or risk losing valuable credibility. Leprosy is NOT "highly contagious", and in fact is even difficult to contract when living in the same household as someone who has it. It is also now completely curable. If Hayworth wants to promote public health as a reason for cracking down on illegal immigrants, he'd do well to undertake 5 minutes of Google research before opening his mouth.


9 posted on 07/11/2005 11:58:39 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: hsmomx3

Not surprising... Here's a poem which comes pretty close to another truth about illegal immigration.

I cross ocean, poor and broke,
Take bus, see employment folk.

Nice man treat me good in there,
Say I need to see welfare.

Welfare say, "You come no more,
We send cash right to your door."

Welfare checks, they make you wealthy,
Medicaid it keep you healthy!

By and by, I got plenty money,
Thanks to you, American dummy.

Write to friends in motherland,
Tell them 'come fast as you can.'

They come in turbans and Ford trucks,
I buy big house with welfare bucks

They come here, we live together,
More welfare checks, it gets better!

Fourteen families, they moving in,
But neighbor's patience wearing thin.

Finally, white guy moves away,
Now I buy his house, and then I say,
"Find more aliens for house to rent."
And in the yard I put a tent.

Send for family they just trash,
But they, too, draw the welfare cash!

Everything is very good,
And soon we own the neighborhood.

We have hobby it's called breeding,
Welfare pay for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?
We get free! We got no bills!

American crazy! He pay all year,
To keep welfare running here.

We think America darn good place!
Too darn good for the white man race.



10 posted on 07/11/2005 11:59:22 AM PDT by FearNoMan
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To: Mr. Mojo

True.

Maybe I should not mention this here but for the last two months our tap water has been extrememly cloudy. It looks like dirty dish soap or diluted milk.

My neighbor and I have called the city and they say it is just air in the water. This problem still exists and the water smells odd.

When I called the city last week, they more or less told me to ignore it. I then asked the lady if she would be willing to serve this water to a guest in her home.

I will call again today to report this ongoing problem.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 12:02:15 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

True, all we need is to have liberals insist we're discriminating against lepors.


12 posted on 07/11/2005 12:03:13 PM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: Mr. Keys

"Shhhh, it's a secret. Only racists say stuff like that you know. These diseases are only going to kill people that other diseases won't."

Not only that... the care for sick illegals and those they infect will be on someone else's tab. Companies using illegals will continue to make lots of cash, so it's all good! Shhhhh.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 12:06:31 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: kellynla

But.. the labor is sooo cheap.(sarc)
This story only touches the iceberg of what illegal immigrants really costs Americans. Yeah we think the labor is cheap so we can save a few bucks but it is no where near what we really have to pay out as tax payers. It's not only in health care. The greatest rise in Medicaid and other government programs is from foreign born people that are suspected of housing illegal family members.


14 posted on 07/11/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by rave123
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To: GovernmentShrinker

TB ??? Polio ???


15 posted on 07/11/2005 12:10:27 PM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: hsmomx3

I think many Americans do know and care. The problem is that the President and many members of Congress don't care.


16 posted on 07/11/2005 12:11:04 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Leprosy is NOT "highly contagious", and in fact is even difficult to contract when living in the same household as someone who has it. It is also now completely curable.

Really? The last I heard is leprosy is "treatable" with Dapsone and the disease will remain in remission as long as the drug is taken every day but the disease is still chronic and incurable.

17 posted on 07/11/2005 12:16:38 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: brownsfan

That nails it !


18 posted on 07/11/2005 12:17:18 PM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Sounds like JD is relying on stories already published for his comments.

There have been several article posted on FR in the last three months talking about the 'epidemic' of leprosy in the US in the last 5 years. Of course, the articles fail to mention the points you made.


19 posted on 07/11/2005 12:35:19 PM PDT by HiJinx (Let's put Blockbuster in charge of immigration ~ two days late and WHAMMO!!!)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


20 posted on 07/11/2005 12:35:31 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rave123

and lets not forget the dirty little secret that ONE THIRD OF ALL THE INCARCERATED IN AMERICA ARE ILLEGALS.
and at an average cost of 50k per, imagine the savings if all those with the exception of maybe those on death row were to be deported not to mention the slots that would be made available for AMERICAN criminals!!!

yes, those supposed savings in produce which actually amounts to about 6 percent is dwarfed by the cost of medical, food stamps, education and incarceration just to name a few are factored in...


21 posted on 07/11/2005 12:36:50 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

So what's the difference between "highly contagious" and "highly infectious", as the CDC ascribes to leprosy?


22 posted on 07/11/2005 12:45:34 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Mogollon
...leprosy is "treatable" with Dapsone...

True, but I've heard there are strains of the bacteria that have become resistant to Dapsome and IMO, it is those that American physicians ought be especially conscious of.

23 posted on 07/11/2005 12:49:27 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Millee

Sent to O'Reilly asking him to PLEASE make this part of his commentary. This news needs to get out, but not many in the media have the guts to tell the story.


24 posted on 07/11/2005 12:58:14 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

Good job! He may be (ok is) a blowhard, but he does do the stories no one else will touch. Let me know if you hear anything.


25 posted on 07/11/2005 1:00:53 PM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Leprosy is NOT "highly contagious", and in fact is even difficult to contract when living in the same household as someone who has it. It is also now completely curable. If Hayworth wants to promote public health as a reason for cracking down on illegal immigrants, he'd do well to undertake 5 minutes of Google research before opening his mouth.

I did a Google search and found this information: The exact mechanism of transmission of leprosy is not known. At least until recently, the most widely held belief was that the disease was transmitted by contact between cases of leprosy and healthy persons. More recently the possibility of transmission by the respiratory route is gaining ground. There are also other possibilities such as transmission through insects which cannot be completely ruled out. I found this info at this website: http://www.who.int/lep/disease/Microbiology/micro.htm

I have no quarrel with what Rep. Hayworth had to say, except I wish he had referred to the people crossing our borders illegally as "illegal aliens" or "undocumented aliens".

26 posted on 07/11/2005 1:03:04 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: azhenfud

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/hansens_t.htm

This CDC summary doesn't say anything about "highly infectious". It's bacterial, yet they've NEVER managed to get it to grow outside a living animal, so you can be pretty sure it's not growing on public toilet seats. Transmission is difficult (a lot like getting warts) and appears to require prolonged exposure. And about 95% people are flat-out immune to it (i.e. they can get technically "infected", but will never develop any symptoms of the disease). It is curable, but that takes a long time. Making it go dormant (and thus non-transmissable) is much quicker (about 3 months).


27 posted on 07/11/2005 1:13:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: PeskyOne

Most people are immune to it, and transmission requires long-term exposure. You don't get it from an infected person sneezing near you a couple of times. You get it from being one of the 5% or so of people who is not immune AND have close long term contact with a person who has an active infection (e.g. living in the same household for a long time, working in patient care for people with leprosy for a long time, etc.).

It's just plain irresponsible to classify leprosy with TB and polio, which ARE highly contagious, and which virtually all people are susceptible to. TB and polio CAN be caught via brief casual contact with infected people, and those diseases are worth focusing on as a serious problem related to illegal immigration.


28 posted on 07/11/2005 1:19:42 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Millee
Let me know if you hear anything.

Will do. I also sent it to Terry Anderson and to John and Ken (California talk show hosts who talk about the damage illegal immigration is doing to California).

29 posted on 07/11/2005 1:24:05 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

This is the sort of news to which the Sheeple actually respond.


30 posted on 07/11/2005 2:11:18 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

And the rest might respond after one of their kids contracts a communicable disease at school...


31 posted on 07/11/2005 2:12:56 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You sound like a liberal plant. As a typical disseminator of false information you pick out one thread to destroy the whole cloth. It maybe a syntax error, but he does not exactly say that Leprosy is a highly contagious disease. He says that certain disease have long been eradicated, and that the American people should know that illegal are now bringing them back. And that is true.


32 posted on 07/11/2005 2:24:10 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: hsmomx3

Also illegal immigrants provide more than their share of pedophiles.


33 posted on 07/11/2005 2:42:08 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Exton1

Do some research on leprosy. It is nothing like TB or polio, and there is precisely zero chance of a leprosy "epidemic" in the U.S. The handful of cases (currently about a hundred a year) are almost entirely (quite possibly absolutely entirely) in immigrants from countries where it is endemic and their immediate families, and nearly all of them caught it where they came from, after long term close exposure to other infected people -- not here (it takes 4-6 years after infection for symptoms to appear).

I am hardly a liberal when it comes to immigration issues. I think any adult-size person seen crossing our border illegally should be shot on sight, and illegal immigrants who are found already here deported within 24 hours. But if political figures promoting a crackdown on illegal immigration get a reputation as ignorant scaremongers, it will hinder, not help, the cause.


34 posted on 07/11/2005 3:15:47 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Dante3

I don't know if that's true, but it's certainly true that Americans provide more than their share in other countries. We need to clean up our own act in that area before we point the finger at foreign nationals.


35 posted on 07/11/2005 3:18:15 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: hsmomx3

uh oh...that's hate speech. Report him to the thought crimes police.


36 posted on 07/11/2005 3:20:13 PM PDT by riri
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To: hsmomx3

Only PERIPHERALLY related, but someone this weekend told me that Armadillos carry leprosy. As a Texan who likes going to chili cookoffs, I must admit I've sampled Armadillo chili before. I guess I won't be doing that again.


37 posted on 07/11/2005 3:21:44 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez wasn't cool.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
We certainly have more than enough pedophiles and they are treated far too leniently by corrupt or incompetent judges. As to rates, illegal aliens and recent immigrants far outdo our rates. In the DC area week after week another illegal alien pedophile is reported.

Opened a Northern Virginia newspaper this morning and there was a Rafael Arteaga, associate pastor of St. Mark's Lutheran Church (not a Hispanic church) arrested for forcible sodomy of a 4-year-old girl. Although his English was good enough for him to have been an associate pastor since Sept. 2001, he nevertheless was provided with a translator at taxpayer expense. They are trying to say he is not competent to stand trial. Yet competent to be a minister?

Next to this article was one about a Jose L. Mercado-Jordan just arrested for rape, sodomy and two counts of aggravated sexual battery involving an 8-year-old girl.

38 posted on 07/11/2005 4:10:46 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: hsmomx3
The NM Health Department advised NM residents to have ALL children from 13 up to 19 to have booster shots for whooping cough. I remember a month or two ago that a baby died from it because he was too young to have his first shots.

People from 3rd world countries are bringing it in and Americans are in danger of getting sick.

39 posted on 07/11/2005 4:15:07 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Something ate my tag line.....)
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To: hsmomx3

I have been in the hospital twice in the last 3 weeks. Interestingly they ask me both time if I have had contact with anyone that main be a carrier of TB. I wanted to say , NO I do my own yard, why you think I'm in here. But I didn't.


40 posted on 07/11/2005 4:18:38 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Dante3

Think about how people in the Philippines or Thailand regard Americans when it comes to this topic. I'm not part of the "hate America" team, but this is one particular area where we don't rate at all well. Partly it's just due to our wealth, which enables our pervs to provide massive patronage of child-perv industries in countries with limited resources for enforcement. Americans (along with other Westerners) are a major part of this "tourism". But we've also got plenty of homegrown sickos -- mostly the less wealthy ones -- who stay right here and do their thing. Our own law enforcement agencies have done massive round-ups of these pervs who were identified via their Internet activities, and most are American born.

The most serious problem that illegal immigrants are importing is violent gangs, most of which are built around an illegal drug trafficking. Think MS13. And of course, the stream of al-Qaeda-affiliated operatives who slip in unnoticed -- as we studiously ignore the mobs of illegals who are crossing for strictly economic reasons, lots of people who want to be studiously ignored are crossing along with the mobs, but for much more nefarious reasons.


41 posted on 07/11/2005 4:38:25 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I think you are splitting hairs here and missing the forest....for the trees.


42 posted on 07/11/2005 4:49:29 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: kellynla
While I share your concern regarding the rise of communicable diseases due to illegal aliens, I am curious where you heard that it cost between two hundred thousand and five hundred thousand dollars to treat each case.

My understanding was that regular TB treatment runs about $2000 per patient, and only the treatment for rare drug-resistant TB runs significantly higher.

43 posted on 07/11/2005 4:52:32 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: hsmomx3

Another disease, CHAGAS. Incurable.


44 posted on 07/11/2005 4:54:44 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: writmeister

I'd have to do some digging but those numbers were in an article posted here on FR about a month ago...


45 posted on 07/11/2005 4:55:57 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: hsmomx3

The MSM will remain mum on this subject unless someone they care about personally catches TB, leprosy or Hepatitis whatever from an illegal. Then it will be Bush's fault.


46 posted on 07/11/2005 4:58:30 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hsmomx3

No problem. They're only carrying the diseases that Americans don't want.


47 posted on 07/11/2005 5:47:12 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: hsmomx3

You need to buy a Berky Light water purifier. I've got one and it does a great job on what I thought was good tap water.


48 posted on 07/11/2005 5:50:27 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: brownsfan

Privatize profits; socialize costs.


49 posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:00 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: hsmomx3

I had a matter involving an illegal mexican who was diagnosed with leprosy. About two years ago.


50 posted on 07/11/2005 5:53:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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