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'Judicial murder' and Terri Schiavo [by Nat Hentoff]
The Washington Times ^ | July 11, 2005 | Nat Hentoff

Posted on 07/11/2005 12:27:13 PM PDT by aculeus

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To: Elsie

Do you think that Terri's life was any less precious to our Lord than any one of those aborted babies? All are precious in His sight.


21 posted on 07/11/2005 1:10:25 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: Elsie

The state allows the choice of abortion. The execution of Terri was ORDERED by the state.


22 posted on 07/11/2005 1:10:40 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: Elsie

Because they'll be killing both now. This is the slippery slope in action. Elderly, Disabled, Womb.

I saw a lot of comments like that when Roe v. Wade came into being. "It's just if the mother's life is in danger"; Living in a building where it's not unusual to see a 23 year old that's had five or six abortions...at the taxpayers expense, and children being taught about sex in the second and fourth grades...

Apparently you didn't see the House meeting on States and Insurance...I kept hearing that the elderly and disabled take up almost 70% of their funds (meaning...you guessed it, someones thinking about trimming the fat). Meanwhile, no one spoke about hospitals closing and the Medicaid/Medicare systems shutting down in states because of immigration.

Had those children been born, there would be no Social Security problem...most would be in the workforce, we wouldn't have to outsource or hire illegal immigrants.

As a mother of a disabled daughter, who was asked several times to disconnect her (She is perfectly fine...fourth grade, highest scores...walks, even though they said she never would...etc.), I ask if you can even imagine the terror going through the hearts of the disabled over this?
Would it matter if I told you they (Felos, lawyers for Euthanasia Society), went directly to fourteen states (two they have already), to file for right to death?

Yes, we are upset over one adult...that one adult is us. Do you also agree that a non-terminal patient (who by Florida Statues should not have been admitted to a hospice...Felos was on the board of directors), should be slowly starved to death? What does that say about our humanity? If you start with one...you'll go to the other.

People don't see what's happening right before their eyes. Where were the women's rights groups, ACLU...fighting for her to die. The same position they have for unborn females. This should tell you something.


23 posted on 07/11/2005 1:11:51 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: floriduh voter

Who were the dems who voted against Terri? Would love to have pictures with that...


24 posted on 07/11/2005 1:12:00 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Elsie

To No. 3:

Agreed that the abortion issue is a tragesty. But to give an inch anywhere at this point is not just a minor point. It opens the door to extreme abuse, and if you don't think it possible read more about it from statistics in Holland. Now doctors as well as family feel it is their duty to terminate the ill, the aged, the newly born with serious challenges, etc. Consider this: How would you like it if your wife delivered a child premature and it had shallow breathing and severe jaundice, but otherwise after a struggle for a time for the lungs to mature, would likely live a normal life? Now walks in a nurse or doctor who feels that using ultraviolet light and O2 for a premie is a tragesty when resources could be used for something else. They decide on their own to pull the O2 and disconnect a few tubes and by 4 hours later the infant is in severe anoxia and having seizures. The doctor now decides that the baby has other significant problems and decides the baby should die. End of story.


25 posted on 07/11/2005 1:12:51 PM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: tutstar

When it's forty million I guess. Welcome to Nazi Germany.


26 posted on 07/11/2005 1:13:04 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: colorado tanker

A person's person who knows jazz -- cool.


27 posted on 07/11/2005 1:13:14 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: floriduh voter

Beautiful. You know McCabe dropped Jeb's investigation last week BTW.


28 posted on 07/11/2005 1:14:01 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Eastbound

And I say taxpayers should be offered a choice of whether they want to pay for abortions.


29 posted on 07/11/2005 1:16:30 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: GOPJ

That would be a big image file.


30 posted on 07/11/2005 1:17:49 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Smartaleck
"It's good to have him on our side."

A self described atheist and against the death penalty?

An atheist, true. But one with a nonetheless well-developed sense of right and wrong. A lot of good people are against the death penalty. The Pope, for one.

He's also an atheist who believes abortion qualifies as a legal sin -- he's characterized Roe v Wade as being the Dred Scott of the 20th century.

I repeat: It's good to have Hentoff on our side.

31 posted on 07/11/2005 1:22:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Elsie
You wrote: "Oh BOO HOO!...We have over a MILLION abortions a year and we are upset over an ADULT???...Give me a break!"

I find that some human possibilities, like compassion and zeal for justice, are not strictly divisible. Having compassion for one person does not decrease the "amount" of compassion available for all; in fact, it tends to increase it. Likewise having a zeal for justice for one person, opens up the channels of justice for others, too.

Try this. It works.

32 posted on 07/11/2005 1:25:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life.)
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To: AliVeritas
That would be a big image file.

Yes, it would be...

33 posted on 07/11/2005 2:00:51 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Insightful. Thanks!


34 posted on 07/11/2005 2:04:51 PM PDT by bvw
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To: floriduh voter

Elsie seems to not care about life, regardless of age.


35 posted on 07/11/2005 2:07:24 PM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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To: biblewonk

Ping.


36 posted on 07/11/2005 2:10:47 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: AliVeritas
"And I say taxpayers should be offered a choice of whether they want to pay for abortions."

I think a better choice would be for the ones wanting an abortion to secure non-tax funding to pay for it or not have an abortion.

Taxation of pro-life folks to pay for some else's abortion forces the tacit consent of pro-lifers for abortion.

Government is consequentially perverting and dictating the terms of the religious, moral, and ethical beliefs of Citizens by forcing them to underwrite the cost of abortion and its support mechanisms.

The same could be said for the peculiar variety of sex education -- normalizing perverions in the public schools.

37 posted on 07/11/2005 2:36:10 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: aculeus

38 posted on 07/11/2005 2:37:25 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Halls

Elsie appears to Love Wife Abusers and Wife Murderers,those that will use the most heinous of Tortures to complete their task of Murdering an innocent person.Maybe I am wrong, but thats the way it looks from here.


39 posted on 07/11/2005 2:42:09 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (Facts don't Bother the Left! GOD BLESS TERRI and Her Real Family)
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To: Elsie

So using your logic, one hit-and-run fatality is nothing. You'll just wait until the hit-and-run fatalities get into the millions before you get upset?

BTW, I vaguely remember you from older threads. You're one of FR's pro-abortion token leftists.


40 posted on 07/11/2005 3:14:24 PM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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