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'Judicial murder' and Terri Schiavo [by Nat Hentoff]
The Washington Times ^ | July 11, 2005 | Nat Hentoff

Posted on 07/11/2005 12:27:13 PM PDT by aculeus

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To: Mrs. Don-o
"I find that some human possibilities, like compassion and zeal for justice, are not strictly divisible. Having compassion for one person does not decrease the "amount" of compassion available for all; in fact, it tends to increase it. Likewise having a zeal for justice for one person, opens up the channels of justice for others, too."

Indivisible human rights. Cut one of us -- all bleed.


The snake was the first symbol of America. A symbol designed and published by Ben Franklin, for a snake -- being in parts it would die, all parts were needed all joined if any were to survive.

Likewise Moses was directed to make a copper snake on a pole in order to cure the Israelites of a plague that sweeping through the assembled tribes.


51 posted on 07/11/2005 5:46:05 PM PDT by bvw
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
Nat Hentoff rocks when it comes to prolife.

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

52 posted on 07/11/2005 6:29:21 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("James...Earn this...Earn it.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Very nice.

Love seems to have its own arithmetic. The faster you give it away, the more it multiplies.

53 posted on 07/11/2005 7:19:57 PM PDT by T'wit (If any liberals get to Heaven, they'll tell God what's wrong with it and reform it all to Hell.)
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To: All

Please help the LIFE issue by calling the president at 202-456-1111, or e-mailing him at president@whitehouse.gov, and asking him to pick judicial nominees, like Scalia and Thomas as he promised in his campaigns. While the president is not perfect, so far, he has kept his campaign promises.


54 posted on 07/11/2005 8:04:21 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: All

More on the judiciary. I received this via e-mail from frc.org:

Give 'Em War, Schumer Calls for Camp David Summit

Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who last week called for war
on ANY nominee President Bush might appoint to the Supreme
Court, now wishes to negotiate at Camp David with the
President on picking a "consensus" judicial nominee.
Merriam-Webster Online defines consensus as the judgment
arrived at by most of those concerned. The U.S.
Constitution grants the sole power of nominating a Supreme
Court justice to the President and allows the Senate
(currently being controlled by the President's own party)
to then vote on that nominee. Any effort by the President
to include the Senate's minority party, the Democrats, is
done out of President Bush's goodwill.

Senator Schumer, in an op-ed published today in the New
York Daily News, cites President Bill Clinton nominee Ruth
Bader Ginsburg as an example of a "consensus candidate."
Justice Ginsburg had a long history of liberal activism
before joining the Supreme Court, including advocating for
the elimination of Mother's and Father's Day. Schumer's
words of last week, refusing to support any nominee put
forth by the President, belie any chatter this week about
"peace talks" and "consensus." This week FRC is airing
radio ads in selected markets calling for Senate Judiciary
Members Schumer and Ted Kennedy (D-MA) to recuse themselves
from Supreme Court nomination hearings. These Senators
have already polluted the process of judicial nominations -
they should not be allowed to run roughshod over the U.S.
Constitution.


55 posted on 07/11/2005 8:05:39 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: floriduh voter
Everyone..please, support the National Right to life.

It appears we need some group muscle to fight this slippery slope.

56 posted on 07/11/2005 11:14:32 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Smartaleck; floriduh voter

"A self described atheist and against the death penalty?"

Remember from our lengthy thread of last month, indeed atheists joined forces with us in support of Terri. They were horrified at the implications, too.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1416995/posts#comment?q=1


57 posted on 07/12/2005 1:06:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: LaFlorida

Michael Schiavo was never a pawn in the end game. He was the instigator. George Felos was a part of the end game but he was never the puppet master. Michael Schiavo remained the puppet master.

On the other hand if anyone is familiar with the hit movie Chicago, I can visualise George Felos in the starring lawyer role. He is just like the tap dancer in that movie. He and his cronies managed to do a lot of tap dancing as they pulled the strings of the MSM.

Michael Schiavo used the euthanasia movement to arrange the killing of his wife. The euthanasia movement, represented by Felos, Greer, Cranford and others used Terri Schiavo as their ticket to fame and a new legal nightmare.


58 posted on 07/12/2005 2:02:15 AM PDT by Maggie4life (Who is pulling the strings now?)
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To: LaFlorida

Michael Schiavo was never a pawn in the end game. He was the instigator. George Felos was a part of the end game but he was never the puppet master. Michael Schiavo remained the puppet master.

On the other hand if anyone is familiar with the hit movie Chicago, I can visualise George Felos in the starring lawyer role. He is just like the tap dancer in that movie. He and his cronies managed to do a lot of tap dancing as they pulled the strings of the MSM.

Michael Schiavo used the euthanasia movement to arrange the killing of his wife. The euthanasia movement, represented by Felos, Greer, Cranford and others used Terri Schiavo as their ticket to fame and a new legal nightmare.


59 posted on 07/12/2005 2:08:56 AM PDT by Maggie4life (Who is pulling the strings now?)
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To: LaFlorida

Michael Schiavo was never a pawn in the end game. He was the instigator. George Felos was a part of the end game but he was never the puppet master. Michael Schiavo remained the puppet master.

On the other hand if anyone is familiar with the hit movie Chicago, I can visualise George Felos in the starring lawyer role. He is just like the tap dancer in that movie. He and his cronies managed to do a lot of tap dancing as they pulled the strings of the MSM.

Michael Schiavo used the euthanasia movement to arrange the killing of his wife. The euthanasia movement, represented by Felos, Greer, Cranford and others used Terri Schiavo as their ticket to fame and a new legal nightmare.


60 posted on 07/12/2005 2:24:26 AM PDT by Maggie4life (Who is pulling the strings now?)
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To: Elsie
Your flip comments regarding Terri merely reflect your callousness and lack of compassion. Terri was denied due process and was killed in a barbaric way not even permitted for mad dogs or the worst of criminals. There are numerous implications involved in her case, including assigning guardianship to a sadistic sociopath with vested interest, the frightening power of judges, etc.

I recommend that you read the article by Martin Katz in "The American Thinker" (posted also on FR) and Mark Fuhrman's excellent book, "The Silent Witness." You may still disagree with those of us who supported Terri, but at least you might understand why we did.

61 posted on 07/12/2005 3:25:17 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: newgeezer

Check out #38.


62 posted on 07/12/2005 4:56:37 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: Dante3; All
Your flip comments regarding Terri merely reflect your callousness and lack of compassion.

I'm glad I got some folks to be riled by what I posted - but I am preaching to the choir here.


Callous?

Yes!

Years of hearing about dead children who have not had a breath of life will DO that to a person.

Torn apart, brains sucked out, powerful solutions burning them in their safe environment... Yes, one tends to be callous!


Uncaring? I think not; but a frustration that is, at times, spewed out in caustic ways: TRYING to show the inhumanity of it all......


To paraphrase someone who was talking about taxes (IIRC) - "A billion here; a billion there... pretty soon it adds up to some real money..."

63 posted on 07/12/2005 6:03:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: All

How many Terri's will it take?


How many Elian's will it take??


How many more abortions will it TAKE???


64 posted on 07/12/2005 6:07:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: 8mmMauser

Guess it depends on one's understanding of what "our side" is I suppose.


65 posted on 07/12/2005 6:17:14 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Dante3

"Terri was denied due process"

Just what kind of process is it that goes all the way to the Supreme Court, involves the President and US Congress, Fl legislature and Gov.?


66 posted on 07/12/2005 6:19:53 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck

Terri bump.


67 posted on 07/12/2005 1:31:36 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Maggie4life
Hiya, Maggie, nice to hear from you.

Hard to pick the star evildoers in this case. Too much of it went on behind closed doors. But they were all playing on the same team. In ruling after ruling after ruling, the results were the same as if Greer had stayed home and let Felos be the judge.

68 posted on 07/12/2005 8:15:48 PM PDT by T'wit (If any liberals get to Heaven, they'll tell God what's wrong with it and reform it all to Hell.)
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To: Smartaleck
>> Just what kind of process is it that goes all the way to the Supreme Court, involves the President and US Congress, Fl legislature and Gov.?

The same kind that Dred Scott got.

69 posted on 07/12/2005 8:17:11 PM PDT by T'wit (If any liberals get to Heaven, they'll tell God what's wrong with it and reform it all to Hell.)
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To: Smartaleck; okie01

On our side? Well yes, anyone, be they Christian, atheist
Jewish, Muslim, Wicca is by me welcome if they oppose this
issue.
And I simply do not understand, not one bit, why there
aren't many more with Hentoff's background on the right
side here. I would have thought his views would be
theirs as a matter of course. Maybe someone here can
explain it to me.


70 posted on 07/12/2005 11:35:06 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Elsie; Shery

Yes abortion is critical. But so is the murder of
disabled or ill adults, and it is shamefully much less
publicized and opposed. To my chagrin I had never heard
of Hugh Finn and many others until Terri's case hit the
blogosphere. G-d save us all.


71 posted on 07/12/2005 11:40:08 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Sun

Do you have a White House fax number? I've gotten
responses from faxes (months later and form postcards
though they be) so someone actually sees them.


72 posted on 07/12/2005 11:43:04 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Elsie
Terris (or Terries) granted I don't like either much Elians abortions How many indeed? I agree with this post 100% You know this would make a great song....
73 posted on 07/12/2005 11:46:09 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: cycjec

Faxes are a good idea. I don't have a fax, but the fax # I have is 202-456-2461. Also, you can check out whitehouse.gov


74 posted on 07/13/2005 2:01:47 AM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: Dante3

I like to watch the animal channel - Animal Cops, that kind of thing. There are these monster people who starve dogs, horses, cats, you name it. These monster people if caught get arrested and some do jail time. Meanwhile, Terri was dehydrated and starved to death and life goes on. All I can think to say is, "Come quickly, Lord Jesus."


75 posted on 07/16/2005 5:51:48 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (They killed Terri - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: wagglebee

Judicial Murder.


76 posted on 03/29/2010 4:20:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist is Florida's Tanya Harding. SUPPORT MARCO RUBIO, EVERYBODY!)
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