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'Israel Will Eventually Disappear'
Ynet News ^ | 7/11/05 | Dian Bahur-Nir and Ali Waked

Posted on 07/11/2005 1:55:51 PM PDT by Reborn

'Israel will eventually disappear'

Senior Hamas leader tells Italian newspaper pullout plan a temporary solution; says Palestine will become a Muslim state
By Dian Bahur-Nir and Ali Waked

Mahmoud al-Zahar

Hamas will not compromise on one inch of Greater Palestine, Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar told an Italian newspaper earlier this week.

Speaking to the Corriere Della Sera newspaper, al-Zahar said Hamas would "definitely not" be prepared for coexistence with Israel should the IDF retreat to its 1967 borders.

"It can be a temporary solution, for a maximum of 5 to 10 years. But in the end Palestine must return to become Muslim, and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."

Go to hell

Asked about Hamas's intentions to carry out terror attacks in coordination with the disengagement plan, al-Zahar said Hamas has already promised not to initiate violence, and that the group's actions would be in response to Israeli actions.

"We won't disrupt the Israeli withdrawal, let them get out of here and go to hell," he said. "The problem will be afterwards, because in the hearts of every Palestinian, the liberation of Gaza must be accompanied by the liberation of Jerusalem and the West Bank."

London attack

Al-Zahar said the London bombings, whiched occured during the interview, are to be expected in countries that support the United States.

"It's no wonder today they have found terror attacks in their home," he said. "I am opposed to attacks against civilians, whoever they are, but why not tell it like it is - if the British soldiers were not in Baghdad and Bazra – there would be mercy for London today."

However, a-Zahar stopped short of supporting the attack on the London Underground, but tried to "explain" the acts of suicide bombers..

"There is a broad popular people's movement against American arrogant hegemony. World leaders, headed by the Bush and Blair governments, should have been more attentive to the voice of poorer countries."

Foreign Ministry protests

In Israel, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom provided a translation of part of the interview and parts of the Hamas consitution Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom for European Union envoy Javier Solana, in an attempt to explain Israel's rejection fo negotioations with Hamas.

The Ministry has also embarked on a campaign to discourage Europeans from dealing with Hamas, including an English translation of Hamas's convention, to be distributed to diplomats in a bid to illustrate the movement's radical and dangerous character to the attention of decision makers throughout the world.

"Now, when Europe has offered to recognize Hamas on a political level, al-Zahar provides clear statements of what to expect from the organization," Ministry officials told Ynet. "He does not even attempt to speak ambiguously in an attempt to please Europe and finds it difficult to hide the group's happiness at the London bombings."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alzahar; hamas; israel; jihad; liars; palestine; sandnazis; sandnazism; wishfulthinking
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Mahmoud al-Zahar is speaking openly to those who have ears to hear. Arik, al-Zahar has got to be proud of you. But can you push the Israelis into the sea a bit faster? Thanks Arik.
1 posted on 07/11/2005 1:55:57 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: Reborn
and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."

Oh BOY, are you in for a surprise!

2 posted on 07/11/2005 1:58:31 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: SJackson; Alouette

For your viewing pleasure.


3 posted on 07/11/2005 1:59:40 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: Reborn

Yet our soldiers wear gloves while holding the Koran. What a joke.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 1:59:53 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Reborn

The palestinians will start a war before they're really ready (arabs always start wars before they're really ready). And then the Israelis will kick the living crap out of them.


5 posted on 07/11/2005 2:01:15 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Reborn

"It can be a temporary solution, for a maximum of 5 to 10 years. But in the end Palestine must return to become Muslim, and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."

Lemme see, how many groups in history have said the Jews will disappear...there were the assyrians, the babylonians, the romans, the nazis....and they're all thriving cultures in the 21st century...

Buy a clue from the pages of history, folks.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 2:01:48 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I hope they have sun block where they're going, but on second thought..


7 posted on 07/11/2005 2:02:15 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Brad's Gramma

The Muslims will disappear into the lake of fire.


8 posted on 07/11/2005 2:02:32 PM PDT by DarthVader (Always ready to educate liberals by beating them profusely about the head with a Louisville Slugger.)
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To: Reborn

Let's look at this logically. Which side is the USA on? Oh, is that Israel I hear? Hmmmm... not happening any time soon.


9 posted on 07/11/2005 2:05:55 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (Peace is not absence of war.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

This character must think his Qu'ran TEACHINGS
ARE more potent than THOSE OF the Torah !

Yes...he IS in for a surprise!


10 posted on 07/11/2005 2:06:58 PM PDT by Grendel9 (uick)
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To: DarthVader

It's the Z and company that will experience eternal hell; not virgins. LOL!


11 posted on 07/11/2005 2:07:03 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Reborn

"He does not even attempt to speak ambiguously in an attempt to please Europe and finds it DIFFICULT TO HIDE the group's HAPPINESS at the London bombings."


Psalms - Chapter 27

Psa 27:1 [[[A Psalm] of David.]] The LORD [is] my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD [is] the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Psa 27:2 When the wicked, [even] mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

Psa 27:3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this [will] I [be] confident.

Psa 27:4 One [thing] have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.

Psa 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.


12 posted on 07/11/2005 2:07:48 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: snarks_when_bored
The palestinians will start a war before they're really ready (arabs always start wars before they're really ready). And then the Israelis will kick the living crap out of them.

LOL, isn't that the truth. I keep wondering how long the PLO [read PA or other assorted Terrorist flavors] are going to wait before they flub up their latest "reward (Yesha) for terror"?! I still can't help but feel that while Arik/Peres is trying to give away more land [Yesha] we are going to see other Arab nations [Iran, Syria, etc] move in for the kill. And then, as you say, we'll kick the living crap out of them. When one rewards terror one gets more terror.

13 posted on 07/11/2005 2:08:14 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: Reborn

the islamists are like communists - but with VENGEANCE !


14 posted on 07/11/2005 2:08:25 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Grendel9
Pardon me. I believe you typed something wrong. Please allow me to fix it for you.

This character must think his Qu'ran TEACHINGS LIES ARE more potent than THOSE OF the Torah !

There. All fixed.

15 posted on 07/11/2005 2:09:11 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Reborn

I guess the Islamoscum have a different "roadmap ", huh ?


16 posted on 07/11/2005 2:09:54 PM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: RedBeaconNY
>Let's look at this logically. Which side is the USA on?

World leaders on Friday concluded an economic summit shaken by terrorism, offering an "alternative to the hatred" - a $50 billion aid package for Africa and up to $9 billion in additional support for the Palestinians

17 posted on 07/11/2005 2:11:38 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: DarthVader

Yeppers. That they will.


18 posted on 07/11/2005 2:11:48 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: theFIRMbss

You're correct.

But, Israel STILL wins in the end...no matter WHAT we do. I don't EVER want us to stop supporting Israel, though...NEVER!


19 posted on 07/11/2005 2:13:27 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Reborn

"Israel will eventually disappear"


Not according to my Bible. Hamas is going to be vaporized.


20 posted on 07/11/2005 2:14:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

WARNING: This is a high volume ping list

21 posted on 07/11/2005 2:14:56 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: Reborn
But in the end Palestine must return to become Muslim, and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."

Israel will NOT disappear from the face of the Earth, you islamist coward. God gave the land back to the Israelis just as He had promised He would, and no two-bit band of thugs and criminals is ever going to change that.
22 posted on 07/11/2005 2:15:05 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("We must be tolerant and understanding of those trying to blow us to pieces" - Ted Kennedy & Co.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Maybe the plan is for all Israelis to be out of the disputed area. Then, once all the Jews/Israelis are out, the good guys can "glass" the area. Like shooting dirty ducks in a barrel...SSZ


23 posted on 07/11/2005 2:15:51 PM PDT by szweig
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Ping


24 posted on 07/11/2005 2:16:08 PM PDT by bkwells
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To: Brad's Gramma

You have a right to your opinions and your beliefs...
but DON't EVER assume you can "fix" someone else's
opinions or beliefs with a glib tongue!


25 posted on 07/11/2005 2:18:55 PM PDT by Grendel9 (uick)
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To: Reborn
This has always been Hamas' policy, no change here. The Europeans have to be willfully ignorant not to know this already.
26 posted on 07/11/2005 2:19:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Reborn

If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one per cent. of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star-dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers.

He has made a marvellous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished.

The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?

Mark Twain, 1898.


27 posted on 07/11/2005 2:20:15 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: Mr. Keys

yes.
It's called the 'roadmap to pieces'.

pieces of jews and christians, that is.


28 posted on 07/11/2005 2:20:38 PM PDT by eccl1212 (You who say a man shouldn't commit adultery. Do you commit adultery? romans 2)
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To: Reborn
It can be a temporary solution, for a maximum of 5 to 10 years.

Hey! Just like the Koran says. What a surprise, he's really a Muslim!

Al-Andalus! You're on the list too.

29 posted on 07/11/2005 2:22:28 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: chris1
"Yet our soldiers wear gloves while holding the Koran. What a joke."

I would too. Rubber ones. No joke.

30 posted on 07/11/2005 2:24:17 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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"I am opposed to attacks against civilians, whoever they are..."

EXCUSE ME???????????

31 posted on 07/11/2005 2:25:31 PM PDT by sofaman
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...retreat to its 1967 borders....

Retreat? Arab spin...Arik can you hear me?

32 posted on 07/11/2005 2:26:36 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Reborn
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Except for Iraq - all the green is under Muslim control. And yet .. these people are worried about a little red strip of land .. go figure.

33 posted on 07/11/2005 2:29:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: theFIRMbss

We are going to give the Palestinians 3-9 billion dollars.
The population is approx 5 million including Gaza, Golan Heights, West Bank, Israel.

Quite a haul. Somewhere between $500-$2000 /person.


34 posted on 07/11/2005 2:35:46 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Reborn

Mahmoud al-Zahar wasn't talking so big when Israel was killing his predecessors at the rate of one a week. Maybe they need to pick that up again.


35 posted on 07/11/2005 2:38:02 PM PDT by thoughtomator (For all you love to survive, Islam must be destroyed.)
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To: thoughtomator

I'm dying to see a good car swarm. And a funeral swarm. I'm not looking forward to the neighborhood swarm that's coming. But actually I am. Because it will demonstrate once again what animals these things are. Gush Katif + palis = Instant Squalor (I blame booosh. And Sharon)


36 posted on 07/11/2005 2:50:19 PM PDT by johnb838 (A chill wind.)
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To: Reborn

The Son of God..The Lord Jesus Christ came to earth as a
descendant of the covenant relationship with
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...

Not Ishmael of Hagar worshiper of the demon gods of Egypt
brought from Babylon

The moon god worshipers Baal Ishtar-Isis will not destroy Israel...Jerusalem will be their undoing and Christ the rock they all break themselves upon...

Even their gods know this to be true and tremble...all they can do is take as many humans with them as they are able...and only those the Lord allows...

imo


37 posted on 07/11/2005 2:51:06 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: Reborn
hamas terrorist leader alzahar says "...Israel will disappear from the face of the Earth..."

if it talks like a terrorist, walks like a terrorist...

38 posted on 07/11/2005 2:55:35 PM PDT by NoClones
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To: F15Eagle
'Israel will eventually disappear'

Everyone knows this is Islam's plan (plan A only, then onto the rest of the world)...

The only people in the world that don't know it are Bush and Blair.

40 posted on 07/11/2005 3:02:56 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: thoughtomator
Mahmoud al-Zahar wasn't talking so big when Israel was killing his predecessors at the rate of one a week. Maybe they need to pick that up again.

A couple of Hellfire Enemas should do the trick.

42 posted on 07/11/2005 3:07:44 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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43 posted on 07/11/2005 3:09:33 PM PDT by SJackson (On the second try, I got that jug off, but then I had a bear tied to a tree)
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To: CyberAnt

That little red strip is a valuable and volatile piece of real estate.


44 posted on 07/11/2005 3:14:53 PM PDT by Voir Dire (You say, I see.)
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To: F15Eagle; jan in Colorado; All
Here's some Zech 12...

8: In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

9: And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

45 posted on 07/11/2005 3:15:10 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: Vinnie

"Quite a haul. Somewhere between $500-$2000 /person."

And was is Suha Arafat's cut? um between $499 and $1995 per person?


46 posted on 07/11/2005 3:16:32 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Voir Dire

Yes it is! And .. precious in the sight of GOD.


47 posted on 07/11/2005 3:17:09 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Voir Dire

Only valuable while God's People posess it and live in it.


48 posted on 07/11/2005 3:18:52 PM PDT by johnb838 (A chill wind.)
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To: timsbella

It's for sure the people will never see a cent of it.


49 posted on 07/11/2005 3:20:56 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Brad's Gramma




To: Reborn
and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."

Oh BOY, are you in for a surprise!





You betcha!


50 posted on 07/11/2005 3:21:59 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee (http://hometown.aol.com/feereports/feepolitics.html)
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