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Democrats urge Bush to fire Rove in leak scandal
Reuters ^ | 07/11/05 | Adam Entous

Posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:32 PM PDT by Pikamax

Democrats urge Bush to fire Rove in leak scandal Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:04 PM ET

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House faced mounting Democratic calls for President Bush to sideline or fire his top political aide Karl Rove on Monday over his involvement in a CIA leak scandal.

After publicly defending Rove two years ago, the White House responded to the barrage by saying it would not comment at the request of the prosecutors investigating who leaked the identify of CIA agent Valerie Plame.

"The White House promised if anyone was involved in the Valerie Plame affair, they would no longer be in this administration. I trust they will follow through on this pledge," Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said.

Other Democrats urged Bush to sideline Rove by suspending his access to classified information and said the deputy White House chief of staff should "clear the air" by answering questions from Congress. Another lawmaker said the intentional disclosure of a covert agent's identity amounted to an "act of treason."

The attacks were prompted by reports that Rove was one of the secret sources who spoke to Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper about Plame and her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson. The Washington Post on Monday quoted Rove's lawyer as saying that his client did not mention Plame by name.

Plame's name was leaked, her diplomat husband said, because of his criticism of the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war. Rove's lawyer was not immediately available to comment.

"The president should immediately suspend Karl Rove's security clearances and shut him down by shutting him out of classified meetings or discussions," said Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat.

"It is time for the President to keep his word. Karl Rove should be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law," said Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York. Several other Democrats have also called on Rove to explain his role or resign.

Rep. Henry Waxman, a California Democrat and the ranking minority member of the House Government Reform Committee, called for a congressional hearing to hear testimony from Rove, who is widely seen as the architect of Bush's election victories.

"The recent disclosures about Mr. Rove's actions have such serious implications that we can no longer responsibly ignore them. The intentional disclosure of a covert CIA agent's identity would be an act of treason," Waxman said.

Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, wrote the White House asking Rove to "tell Americans what he knew, when he knew it, and who he may have told about Valerie Plame's identity in order to clear the air once and for all."

A U.S. federal judge had ordered Cooper, along with New York Times reporter Judith Miller, to testify in the case and reveal their sources. Cooper avoided a jail sentence last week by agreeing to testify. Miller refused to testify and was jailed.

INUNDATED WITH QUESTIONS

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, who was inundated with questions about Rove at his daily news briefing, declined to comment when asked whether Bush continued to have confidence in Rove. "You're asking this question in the context of an ongoing investigation, and I would not read anything into it," McClellan said of his refusal to comment.

McClellan also refused to say whether Rove's job could be changed, or whether Bush stood by his pledge to fire anybody found responsible for the leak.

"I think we all want to see the prosecutors get to the bottom of this matter, the president wants to see the prosecutors get to the bottom of this matter," McClellan said.

A grand jury investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, a Justice Department prosecutor, is seeking to determine who in the Bush administration leaked Plame's name to the media in 2003 and whether any laws were violated.

McClellan would not address what critics said were contradictory statements issued in the past by the White House and now by Rove's lawyer.

"I am well aware of what was said previously. I remember well what was said previously, and at some point, I look forward to talking about it. But until the investigation is complete, I'm just not going to do that," McClellan said.

In September and October 2003, McClellan rejected as "ridiculous" any suggestion that Rove was involved in the Plame leak.

When asked at an Oct. 10, 2003, briefing whether Rove and two other White House aides had ever told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA, McClellan said: "I spoke with those individuals... and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this... the leaking of classified information."


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1 posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:33 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
Another lawmaker said the intentional disclosure of a covert agent's identity amounted to an "act of treason."

Treason? I'm surprised they haven't offered him a Congressional Medal of Honor.

2 posted on 07/11/2005 5:54:04 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Pikamax

rove is not negotiable.


3 posted on 07/11/2005 5:54:51 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Pikamax

"Aaaaaaaah, Shaddap!"
4 posted on 07/11/2005 5:55:40 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Hillary '08 -- A 9/10 candidate in a 9/11 world.)
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To: Pikamax
The intentional disclosure of a covert CIA agent's identity would be an act of treason," Waxman said.

It's a shame Plame was a deskjocky and not a covert agent.

5 posted on 07/11/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Pikamax

This last ditch attempt to blame Rove is truly hilarious. When it all comes out that Wilson himself was the leaker, a lot of people on the other side are going to look really stupid(er).


6 posted on 07/11/2005 5:57:07 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: Pikamax
McClellan said: "I spoke with those individuals... and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this... the leaking of classified information."

From what I understand McClellan is correct.. no leaking of CLASSIFIED information happened.

7 posted on 07/11/2005 5:57:28 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: Pikamax

Leaks, honesty, keeping promises.....can yall believe this? I hope GB tells them to go pound sand.


8 posted on 07/11/2005 5:57:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: TheGeezer
I've heard this over and over, but is there a source that proves this?

One of the most frustrating things about this case is that every debate on the tube turns into one person saying "She was known before" and the other saying "No she wasn't!"

I'm looking around right now but if anyone has a link to the facts of Plame's situation, I'd appreciate their posting it.

9 posted on 07/11/2005 5:58:30 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed comtempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Pikamax
Reid, Lautenburg, Schumer and Waxman.

The four horses' a$$es of the apocalypse.

It will be interesting when the Grand Jury decision comes out.

10 posted on 07/11/2005 6:00:18 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Pikamax
I agree. President Bush needs to fire Rove - AFTER HE IS CONFIRMED TO THE USSC!

Take THAT snively whiny rats!

11 posted on 07/11/2005 6:00:19 PM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: Pikamax

let's make a deal. Rove will resign when "Leaky Leahy" resigns for leaking intel reports when he was on that committee.


12 posted on 07/11/2005 6:00:57 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Pikamax
"The recent disclosures about Mr. Rove's actions have such serious implications that we can no longer responsibly ignore them. The intentional disclosure of a covert CIA agent's identity would be an act of treason," Waxman said.

Why then when democrats exposed CIA agents and got them killed was it not an act of treason?

The liberal double standard should be obivous to anyone, but the lapdog media whores won't ever tell anyone about the left's attempts to expose and undermine the intelligence gathering capabilities of this country.

13 posted on 07/11/2005 6:01:45 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Pikamax

If the Rats were not such power-hungry, treasonous slimeballs willing to sell the country down the river for their personal power grab fantasies, this whole thing would be laughable. They would love to get rid of Rove for the same reason they want to get rid of the SecDef -- he's good at what he does.


14 posted on 07/11/2005 6:02:05 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Pikamax
No, Sandy Berger should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
15 posted on 07/11/2005 6:03:49 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Pikamax

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


16 posted on 07/11/2005 6:06:20 PM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: Pikamax
Another lawmaker said the intentional disclosure of a covert agent's identity amounted to an "act of treason."

I'm sure that they would love that.

Except that he didn't do that. He answered a question about who had authorized the Joe Wilson trip. Rove responded that it wasn't DCIA Tenet or Dick Cheney, as Wilson claimed. He simply said, "Wilson's wife works at CIA and he believed that she may have arranged the trip", which it turns out to be absolutely the case as she, indeed, recommended and pushed for her husband to take the trip.

At no point did Rove mention Valerie Plame's name. Further, there is no intention when you answer a "who arranged a trip?" question, but don't include the name. The only thing that you could say is that Rove INTENTIONALLY DID NOT mention Valerie Plames name.

If a report (Bob Novak) calls the CIA and verifies that a) Joe Wilson's wife does work at CIA, b) that her name is Valerie Plame (which was actually published by Wilson himself in at least 3 places on the Internet...of all places), and that c) he was going to publish the name, to wit CIA didn't request that her name be excluded, a request that Novak himself said he would have honored if CIA would have indicated that she was a "sensitive" source.

And, it really was a set-up from the word go. Read FREEPER Wolfstars post: Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal".

The demoCREEPS, aided by their friends in the mainstream press, have seized on the now-infamous "16 words" as a way to create friction for Bush, specifically, and Rove, in general.

This really is the mother-of-all-BS-media stories.

17 posted on 07/11/2005 6:06:37 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

This last ditch attempt to blame Rove is truly hilarious. When it all comes out that Wilson himself was the leaker, a lot of people on the other side are going to look really stupid(er).



Either that, or these "journalists" didn't protect the confidentiality of their source, after all.



18 posted on 07/11/2005 6:07:05 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Pikamax

If Bush still says what he means and means what he says Rove is a goner if he was involved.


19 posted on 07/11/2005 6:08:37 PM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Pikamax

Cripes! With all the corruption in the Clinton (off)White House, the Dems can only get outraged about this?!?!?!

Do FBI files, IRS persecutions and the occasional one way trip to Fort March park ring any bells?

Bush's only answer should be a flat "NO!" And maybe a few "big time" remarks "accidentally" uttered into an open mike...... ;-)

I second the Leahy remark too! Let Rove get the same punishment as Leahy!! LOL!


20 posted on 07/11/2005 6:09:36 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Liberals are enablers for terrorists and other anti-American groups.)
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To: mattdono
Deborah Orin also mentioned that Wilson's original story was bull to begin with. Michael Isokoff, of course, rushed in to say this isn't about Joe Wilson's veracity. Yet it is--the whole idea of Rove's talking about this on background is to add fuel to the idea that Wilson's info was bad, and that he was not sent on the misson based on merit but personal connections.

BTW, isn't it interesting how the DUmmies are all of a sudden so concerned with the health and well-being of our intelligence officers? So much for the CIA lying about WMD.

21 posted on 07/11/2005 6:09:44 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed comtempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Pikamax

anything these a$$holes say, you do and believe just the opposite.


22 posted on 07/11/2005 6:10:30 PM PDT by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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To: Pikamax

Gee, I missed it when they asked Clinton to resign for perjury and obstruction of justice. Must've been at the mall that day.


23 posted on 07/11/2005 6:11:57 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Pikamax

After nearly five years I'm growing bored with the left. They keep manufacturing scandal after scandal...that goes nowhere. Where's the thrill? It's entirely too predictable. I can't even keep track of their failures anymore.


24 posted on 07/11/2005 6:13:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Darkwolf377

They are really quite pathetic.


25 posted on 07/11/2005 6:14:14 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Pikamax

Dems urge

Dems demand

Dems insist

Dems declare

I say to the dems...be quiet for two minutes so you can lear the truth. The REAL truth and it AIN'T gonna be Karl Rove.


26 posted on 07/11/2005 6:14:36 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That side looks stupid all the time; doesn't stop them from looking stupid again and again.

I laugh when this woman is called a 'covert agent.' What a joke.


27 posted on 07/11/2005 6:14:40 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: Pikamax
Well, golly, let's see. Who haven't the liberals demanded a resignation from? On my short list I have: Rumsfeld, Ridge, Cheney, Ashcroft, Powell.

But *this* is supposed to be something, well, serious.

28 posted on 07/11/2005 6:16:15 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Soul Seeker
"I can't even keep track of their failures anymore."

They've failed with every other resignation demand. But this one, you see, is supposed to be the real deal.

Why? They've manufactured another idiotic bit of propaganda to get themselves in a lather. Again.

29 posted on 07/11/2005 6:17:59 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Finalapproach29er
This last ditch attempt to blame Rove is truly hilarious. When it all comes out that Wilson himself was the leaker, a lot of people on the other side are going to look really stupid(er).

I hate to burst your bubble of fantasy, but if/when it comes out that Wilson himself was the leaker (or some other democrat mole in the executive branch) it will not make the slightest difference to the Democrats and the MSM. They will go right on spouting this story as if it had been proved to be the gospel truth, and their sheep-like followers will all nod at each other and go "Baaaaaa."

It will pass into the "recieved wisdom" of the left that Rove and Bush destroyed Plame's "undercover career" and committed "treason," or whatever, and the story will be repeated for the next 50 years, or until our side stops talking about Bill Clinton's misdeeds.

That's all this is about, by the way. They know da*n well that Clinton was a reprehensible disgrace of a president, (even theough they never publicly acknowledge that he so much as tore the "do not remove" tag off a White House matress) and it drives them nuts. Well, it is one of the many things that drives them nuts.

Well, many of them already are nuts, so its kind of academic.

(steely)

30 posted on 07/11/2005 6:18:59 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Reactionary

If you don't merit a call for resignation or impeachment from the Libs & MSM you aren't doing your job. :-D


31 posted on 07/11/2005 6:21:20 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Pikamax
Democrat politician and the MSM trying to fabricate a scandal does not a scandal make - except against them.
32 posted on 07/11/2005 6:22:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Pikamax
Problems: solutions...

South exterior wall of White House overdue for painting: Fire Rove.

White House memo misspelled clinton: Fire Rove.

Trickster gives AP bogus info that could have been verified with a simple phone call: Fire Rove.

T. Kennedy stumbles in drunken stupor: Fire Rove.

Sandra O'Connor retires: Fire Rove.

Islamists attack London: Fire Rove.

Is it just me or is a pattern developing among Democrats.

33 posted on 07/11/2005 6:22:19 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Darkwolf377
"BTW, isn't it interesting how the DUmmies are all of a sudden so concerned with the health and well-being of our intelligence officers? So much for the CIA lying about WMD."

The Leftist moonbats could care less about the CIA. They've spent decades maligning it as an institution. Now, of course, since it's in their best interest to appear patriotic, well, they don't mind using the CIA for whatever purposes they have at hand.

Liberals are political opportunists. They always play political offense. They continually agitate against America, and they're perfectly willing to do anything to achieve political power.

34 posted on 07/11/2005 6:23:19 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Pikamax

"The recent disclosures about Mr. Rove's actions have such serious implications that we can no longer responsibly ignore them. The intentional disclosure of a covert CIA agent's identity would be an act of treason," Waxman said."

Waxman has a lot of gall to say something like this when his party is doing its best to sell out America to the terrorists and put our soldiers in harm's way!

What "turban" Durbin did was treason, not Rove's statement.

What Clinton and his administration did to sell out the country during Chinagate was treason.

Naturally, the liberal media will dutifully report this to death when they ignored Durbin's statements. It smacks of the TANG/Swiftboat coverage all over again.


35 posted on 07/11/2005 6:24:13 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Liberals are enablers for terrorists and other anti-American groups.)
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To: Pikamax
Democrats urge Bush to fire Rove in leak scandal

Go pound sand.

36 posted on 07/11/2005 6:24:26 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Soul Seeker
"If you don't merit a call for resignation or impeachment from the Libs & MSM you aren't doing your job. :-D"

That's exactly right. They're almost out of people to demand resginations from. They tried it Delay and Ridge and Ashcroft and a whole host of others. And now they're left frothing and spewing over Rove.

37 posted on 07/11/2005 6:25:54 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Steely Tom

This last ditch attempt to blame Rove is truly hilarious. When it all comes out that Wilson himself was the leaker, a lot of people on the other side are going to look really stupid(er).
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38 posted on 07/11/2005 6:28:02 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Pikamax

Bush should announce he just gave Rove a raise for his deft handling of the Plame investigation. ...might ruin his chances for re-election though. :-)


39 posted on 07/11/2005 6:32:56 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: mattdono
"They are really quite pathetic."

Yes, and tiresome, too.

40 posted on 07/11/2005 6:33:29 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Pikamax
And we all know that Waxman recognizes "treason" when he sees it.......< /sarcasm >


41 posted on 07/11/2005 6:34:26 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Pikamax
Fire Rumsfeld! Fire Ashcroft! Fire Rice! Fire Rove!

Save time! If you Democraps don't like your evil overlords, just quit and stop whining like the little insignificant Beeotches that you have become!

42 posted on 07/11/2005 6:34:32 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: All
Git 'er done!

43 posted on 07/11/2005 6:35:59 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: MizSterious

Well, while the democrats are in a lather about this, Bush ought to spring his USSC nominee on them (a real conservative like John Ashcroft). Maybe it would be enough to cause a few heart attacks amongst those liberal losers and then they'd have to be replaced in their useless positions as obstructionists and liars!!!


44 posted on 07/11/2005 6:38:40 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: madprof98

"intentional disclosure of a covert agent's identity"


Rove didn't "disclose" any "agent's identity". Novak disclosed her name - and even he says it was public knowledge.

This is just another attempt by the dems to make themselves look good after all the horrible things they have been saying about Bush and our troops.

And .. whichever lawmaker made that ridiculous statement is probably one of Hillary's goons.


45 posted on 07/11/2005 6:42:11 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Are you sure it was Wilson ..?? I kinda figured it was another reporter.


46 posted on 07/11/2005 6:44:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Darkwolf377

It was known that she was CIA. It may not have been known that she was covert, but it doesn't matter - Rove never told anyone she was covert.


47 posted on 07/11/2005 6:44:50 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: princess leah

LOL, I was thinking a similar thing. There's a little blood in the water and the dems are going nuts over it. It's about time that GWB blind-sides the dems..... again. I love it when this happens. It's pure joy to watch the dems at work realize they were bested by a so called "dummy."


48 posted on 07/11/2005 6:48:10 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Pikamax

Waaaaaah, Bush never admitted to making a mistake and
now he won't even fire Rove without cause. Waaaaaah!

Watch your step, George, the liberals are up to their trix!


49 posted on 07/11/2005 6:49:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Auntie Dem
"The president should immediately suspend Karl Rove's security clearances and shut him down by shutting him out of classified meetings or discussions," said Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat.

Sandy Berger to the courtesy phone, please...

This from the party that ran a proven traitor for the Presidency? Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle...

50 posted on 07/11/2005 6:50:49 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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