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At White House, a Day of Silence on Rove's Role in C.I.A. Leak (NY Slimes Barf Alert)
New York Times ^ | July 12, 2005 | RICHARD W. STEVENSON

Posted on 07/11/2005 7:57:59 PM PDT by RWR8189

WASHINGTON, July 11 - Nearly two years after stating that any administration official found to have been involved in leaking the name of an undercover C.I.A. officer would be fired, and assuring that Karl Rove and other senior aides to President Bush had nothing to do with the disclosure, the White House on Monday refused to answer any questions about new evidence of Mr. Rove's role in the matter.

With the White House silent, Democrats rushed in, demanding that the administration provide a full account of any involvement by Mr. Rove, one of the president's closest advisers, turning up the political heat in the case and leaving some Republicans worried about the possible effects on Mr. Bush's second-term agenda.

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, cited Mr. Bush's statements about firing anyone involved in the leak and said, "I trust they will follow through on this pledge."

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said Mr. Rove, given his stature and the principles involved in the case, could not hide behind legal advice not to comment.

"The lesson of history for George Bush and Karl Rove is that the best way to help themselves is to bring out all the facts, on their own, quickly," Mr. Schumer said, citing the second-term scandals that have beset previous administrations.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bias; cialeak; karlrove; mediabias; nyslimes; plame; rove; slimes; valerieplame
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1 posted on 07/11/2005 7:57:59 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

And the MSM run to the most partisan hacks they could find, and help them slip the noose around their own necks, and tighten, ever so slowly.....


2 posted on 07/11/2005 8:02:10 PM PDT by digger48
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To: RWR8189

"With the White House silent, Democrats rushed in, demanding that the administration provide a full account of any involvement by Mr. Rove,"

Isn't that what the taxpayers are paying this investigation for?

BTW, why not demand Newsweek release the complete Cooper e-mail?


3 posted on 07/11/2005 8:04:09 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: RWR8189

"A covert agent is defined as someone whose identity is classified information and who has served outside the United States within the last five years."

Anyone know if that applies?


4 posted on 07/11/2005 8:04:38 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: RWR8189

If he is a republican and Bush aide, convict then try. If he is a terrorist, try before convicting.

And these sicko liberals want to be taken seriously?


5 posted on 07/11/2005 8:05:05 PM PDT by Prost1 (New AG, Berger is still free, copped a plea! I still get my news from FR!)
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To: HarryCaul

"A covert agent is defined as someone whose identity is classified information and who has served outside the United States within the last five years."

It does not. I believe it was her husband who leaked or maybe Harry Reid or Leaky Leahy.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 8:06:04 PM PDT by Prost1 (New AG, Berger is still free, copped a plea! I still get my news from FR!)
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To: RWR8189
......this really has NOTHING to do with Dan Rather,.....move on!

/Deep-Computer-Gate?

7 posted on 07/11/2005 8:06:42 PM PDT by maestro
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To: RWR8189
Buried in the last paragraph of the hit piece:

There has been some dispute, moreover, about just how secret a secret agent Ms. Wilson was.

"She had a desk job in Langley," said Ms. Toensing, who also signed the supporting brief in the appeals court, referring to the C.I.A.'s headquarters. "When you want someone in deep cover, they don't go back and forth to Langley."

8 posted on 07/11/2005 8:06:45 PM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)(No Money for the NRSC)
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To: RWR8189
Who cares? The NYTimes has become irrelevant, taken seriously only by the left. Their rants and raves are not taken any more seriously than those of Air America.
9 posted on 07/11/2005 8:08:39 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: RWR8189
Two years and the NYT still can't tell us if Plame is or is not a "covert agent" as defined in the law. Now of course, the NYT lawyers claim "no crime" was committed in their defense of Jumpsuit Judy Miller.

As a Doctor I prescribe "Journalistic Viagra" for the limp ones known as reporters at the New York Times.

10 posted on 07/11/2005 8:09:03 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: RWR8189

and before that.

"Based on the e-mail message, Mr. Rove's disclosures are not criminal, said Bruce S. Sanford, a Washington lawyer who helped write the law and submitted a brief on behalf of several news organizations concerning it to the appeals court hearing the case of Mr. Cooper and Judith Miller, a reporter for The New York Times. Ms. Miller has gone to jail rather than disclose her source.

"It is clear that Karl Rove's conversation with Matt Cooper does not fall into that category" of criminal conduct, Mr. Sanford said. "That's not 'knowing.' It doesn't even come close."

all this is a feeding frenzy.

But I have to say that McClellan was ridiculously pathetic and should have shot back at the press corps.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 8:10:50 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: RWR8189
I remember commenting when this story fist broke that Ms. Plame would be a very unlikely "deep cover agent," since she's quite obviously a rather pretty blond with a dictinctly American accent.

I mean, what are the chances of a valley girl doing epionage in Tehran or Pyongyang, eh? Zero. The entire "covert agent" meme the liberal press keeps spewing is patently idiotic.

Why worry? Words get repeated to create an impression, you see. Whether or not they accord with reality is a matter of indifference.

12 posted on 07/11/2005 8:11:12 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: RWR8189

The White House is playing 'rope-a-dope' with the entire MSM White House press corps. They are all rats running after the same piece of cheese and they are all going to be shown up as a chumps when it is shown that Rove is innocent


13 posted on 07/11/2005 8:11:19 PM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: RWR8189

So, are we to assume that the wheels fell off of the Great Tom DeLay Smear Campaign of '05, or do the dems just suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder?


14 posted on 07/11/2005 8:13:36 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Reactionary

If she is a top notch extra special secret agent, can't she just wear a disguise and start over? Of course she would have to drop Joe, but that will just be a bonus for her.


15 posted on 07/11/2005 8:15:10 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: randog

Great point.

There was something else recently too, but I don't recall.


16 posted on 07/11/2005 8:16:31 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: RWR8189
Man, if I was the press, I would be scared to death right now.

If you watch this White House closely, when they are wrong, they flat out say so in one of these press briefings. I have heard them say "Well, we thought it was this, but after further review we've decided it was more like this" kind of statements.

When they are right, they say "We covered that yesterday and we stand by what we said."

But when they don't say anything...when they let something just hang there, taunting you, begging you to reach out and grab it with both hands...YOU are in DEEP and everlasting doo-doo.

And the press STILL hasn't learned.

17 posted on 07/11/2005 8:18:42 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: RWR8189

I haven't followed the story very closely, but i get this feeling that the White House is acting like B'rer Rabbit in this case and telling B'rer Fox (the Dems and MSM) not to throw them in the briar patch. This Rove flap will turn out to be nothing, and the usual screaming, nitwit subjects will have egg on their faces.


18 posted on 07/11/2005 8:19:57 PM PDT by jaime1959
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To: randog

The Rats remind me of little kids you see in the park, chasing after birds and squirrels. They keep thinking they are going to get one, and they run in all different directions, and they never get discouraged. But they never get anything. Little kids eventually grow out of it, but the Rats under Bush keep right on chasing.


19 posted on 07/11/2005 8:20:51 PM PDT by speedy
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To: RWR8189
Hey NYT, Bush won!!!
20 posted on 07/11/2005 8:21:53 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: jaime1959

I think you are right. Luring varmits into the trap is tricky business.


21 posted on 07/11/2005 8:21:55 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: Pikamax

" But I have to say that McClellan was ridiculously pathetic and should have shot back at the press corps."

If the WH had a stronger, more confident spokesman many of these media manipulated firestorms would be snuffed out in the beginning.
The out of control press corps has been using McClellan as their punching bag from day one and the WH appears completely helpless to change that dynamic.


22 posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:10 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Moorings

The Times knows that. They are trying to nullify it, or at the very least neuter his administration. If W appoints Teddy Kennedy to the Supreme Court, they'll just call the whole thing off.


23 posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:54 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: RWR8189

Well....it gets the nomination of Supreme Court candidates off the front pages......Rove et al are brilliant


24 posted on 07/11/2005 8:29:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: RWR8189

This is blaten yellow journalism retaliation for the pathetic lies of the reporters.

The spy was KNOWN the only people who did not know must have been the NYT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/993741/posts?page=222 a compilation.

the real story is not this third rate badly kept non-secret. The real story is the NYT is making up stores AGAIN.

The NYT is the story NOT Rove. The only thing the NYT can do is simply close its doors, it serves no function. A cheep romance novel published 30 years ago is more up todate and truthful than the NYT.


25 posted on 07/11/2005 8:29:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Raycpa

Oh how could you forget "The Downing Street Memos".......

That was the sure fire double throwdown ticket to impeachment........LOL !!!!


26 posted on 07/11/2005 8:34:14 PM PDT by federal
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To: RWR8189

Let the media do their thing. Its going to make so much more sweeter, when no one from the WH gets indictied. Seriously, they are going to have so much egg on thier face, like they have had in the past.

This will blow over once Fitzy has finished his case, and will be old news just like the downing street memo or torture photos.

The more fuss the MSM makes now, is the more stupid they will look.

The only thing I would asked for people here, is when the prosecuter finishes his case and NO ONE gets indicited, we should ask the media to say sorry to Rove, not before hand , but after.

That is going to be a great day.


27 posted on 07/11/2005 8:45:05 PM PDT by mikenash
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To: Armigerous

best post ever, this is great, let all media go after Rove, the more the merrier, its when Rove is found to have done nothing wrong by the special prosecuter, is when the media will look like complete idiots to the public, yes indeed, rope a dope, and with liberals its quite easy.


28 posted on 07/11/2005 8:48:38 PM PDT by mikenash
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To: jaime1959

They just can't stand it. "W" won reelection. He's in until January 2009 so all you whiney, sick-o libs get used to it.


29 posted on 07/11/2005 8:48:48 PM PDT by no dems (43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, 2 to pull a trigger: I'm lazy and tired of smiling,)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

McCellan was perfect, if he had of shot back, they would fo said, "OH hes been really defensive, what is he up to" Heck he told them over twenty times he wasnt going answer the question, who picks the white house press core anyway???????????????

This is the brillance of Bush, Cheney, and Rove this adminstration is the brightest we have ever had, they know what we are doing and this case might end up being a turning point for the media, when Rove in innocent, no one will ever dare try to write anything bad about Bush, well apart from those wimpy french losers.


30 posted on 07/11/2005 8:53:19 PM PDT by mikenash
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To: Pikamax

Heaven forbid that the NY Times would let the facts get in the way of a good story.......


31 posted on 07/11/2005 8:54:28 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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To: federal

Hahahha the downing street memo, boy that was forgotton about quick, it made the news for about three days, and nothing could be proven, now they are usuing Rove, when rove falls flat they will make up something else, I guess the left just love to lie, who knows why?


32 posted on 07/11/2005 8:56:30 PM PDT by mikenash
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To: RWR8189

If it wasn't so coarse and laden with BS, the NY Times would make great toilet paper.


33 posted on 07/11/2005 8:59:20 PM PDT by markedman (Lay me down to a watery grave)
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To: speedy

Great analogy :)


34 posted on 07/11/2005 8:59:33 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: randog
How about Gitmo? We do not hear the liberals and their media whores talk about it anymore, do we?
35 posted on 07/11/2005 9:04:01 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
"If the WH had a stronger, more confident spokesman many of these media manipulated firestorms would be snuffed out in the beginning."

Err, no. The best press spokesman in the world keeps from doing two very important things: He never sticks his foot in his mouth, and he never, ever gives the opposition any ammunition to hunt with.

All of Bush's press spokesmen have done their jobs perfectly. It's no wonder the seething, idiot Leftists are in a lather over it.

36 posted on 07/11/2005 9:08:27 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Prost1
"If he is a republican and Bush aide, convict then try. If he is a terrorist, try before convicting....

...and if he is a Dimocrat, just forget about it, sweep it under the rug, say "he was confused" or "it wasn't intentional", "I don't remember", etc.

BTW what ever happened to Sandy Burglar and the documents he stole??
37 posted on 07/11/2005 9:11:13 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Humal

Sounds like a little revenge to me. THe NYT isn't happy about he election results and now they have to pay the legal bills for an incompetent reporter who is sitting in jail to avoid telling the truth. Why not blame Rove? Its not like he can prove that the NYT lied about the whole thing and get anybody to print the truth.


38 posted on 07/11/2005 10:00:39 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: jveritas

Does anyone know if the NYT even ran the a piece about how the soldiers and guards were treated by the enemy @ Gitmo?


39 posted on 07/11/2005 10:04:38 PM PDT by Cougar66
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To: HarryCaul
"A covert agent is defined as someone whose identity is classified information and who has served outside the United States within the last five years."

Anyone know if that applies?

The lovely and gracious Miss Valerie was withdrawn from covert service in 1995. The CIA suspected Aldrich Ames, arrested 1994, had revealed her true status.

40 posted on 07/11/2005 10:09:08 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: randog
So, are we to assume that the wheels fell off of the Great Tom DeLay Smear Campaign of '05...

I believe I saw that particular bandwagon last week. Rusting in a salvage yard, somewhere around Poughkeepsie...

41 posted on 07/11/2005 10:13:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Scott McClellan is perfect guy for the rope a dope strategy. He comes off with the perfect "deer in the headlights" look. Sometimes I wonder if those geniuses are just pushing the envelope a little too far in having this guy as press secretary.


42 posted on 07/11/2005 10:22:54 PM PDT by Friend of the Friendless
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To: RWR8189

"The lesson of history for George Bush and Karl Rove is that the best way to help themselves is to bring out all the facts, on their own, quickly," Mr. Schumer said, citing the second-term scandals that have beset previous administrations."

It's big, I tell ya! Bigger 'n Watergate. Bigger 'n Teapot Dome. Bigger 'n Fannie Fox, the 900 FBI files, Whitewater and Chinese cash for defense secrets (not that we're saying those last three ever really happened). It's big, I tell ya. So big, it's gonna bring this administration down! An era of infamy. The destruction of the ever-growing conservative majority. It's all gonna be destroyed.

Then the publisher of the New York Times knelt down beside his desk...making sure the blinds were drawn, so no one could see him, and said, very softly (so no one nearby might hear him: Please...um, whomever I pray to, not that I really pray...let it happen this time, please? We just can't take it anymore. No matter what we do, whom we lie to, or whom we pander to, our power just keeps slip, slip, slipping away. So, please...okay, I'll say it...uh, er, God: Just take down Bush for us, and we'll call a moratorium on removing religious statements from the public square for...a whole year.

Thunderous voice from above: Would you be willing to give up abortion?

The publisher is thrilled; his prayer will be answered. Yes, he says, yes! You make sure Bush is humiliated, and hounded out of office, and the Republicans look like idiots, and of course we'll give up abortion. Then he asks: But for how long?

Pure thunder: Wrong answer!

And the NY Times Building is incinerated in a nanosecond.


43 posted on 07/11/2005 10:23:54 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
McClellan is always pathetic.He needs to go.
44 posted on 07/11/2005 11:17:19 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: RWR8189

LOL!!!

Without "comments" from Rove and/or the White House, the scumbags at the NY Times don't know how they are supposed to fashion their LIES. (Same old story.) There's something nagging at them deep inside and they just can't stop gnashing their teeth.

There will be "comments" alright - - once the bait has been devoured and the trap is sprung.
This is all too funny for words.


45 posted on 07/11/2005 11:23:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RWR8189

RICHARD W. STEVENSON

46 posted on 07/12/2005 3:59:29 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: RWR8189

As usual, the NYT is lying. I saw the video tape of the President answering the question two years ago. He said that if someone in his administration was involved in the leak, he would "take care of it". He did not say they would be fired. Trying to pump this up into a embarrassment for the President and Karl Rove is what this is about, and they should be ashamed of themselves when we are at war and London was just blown up.


47 posted on 07/12/2005 4:04:01 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Lancey Howard
I want to see the storm get bigger, so the left falls harder when it blows up in their face. My take on identity of the "leaker" if they are ever found;

1) Wilson
2) A highly placed democrat or media personality that would be an embarrassment to the liberals if exposed. Someone's name who they hoped would never come up in this.
3) An unknown person who if exposed would have killed the issue because there was no political hay to be made out of it. It would have become the non story it really is. But the MSM has to keep the story going to make President Bush look bad.
48 posted on 07/12/2005 4:24:08 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for us all.)
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To: Cougar66
Of course not. The NYT does not consider these terrorists as the enemy.
49 posted on 07/12/2005 5:23:14 AM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: RWR8189
The WH should continue to refuse to comment on this, as long as the grand jury is still taking testimony. This has the added benefit of giving the MSM and other liberal hacks more rope with which to hang themselves.

A trap has been set for these idiots, and they're walking right into it. What fun.

50 posted on 07/12/2005 5:27:22 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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