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Why Judith Miller Should Stay In Jail - ("source" she is protecting is HERSELF!! Gotcha, Judith!)
A.I.M.ORG ^ | JULY 11, 2005 | CLIFF KINCAID

Posted on 07/11/2005 8:21:22 PM PDT by CHARLITE

The truth could very well be that Judith Miller is protecting a "source" all right─ Miller herself. She may have known the truth about Plame all along but didn't write a story because of that fact. So, instead, she passed that information on to the administration.

Under ordinary circumstances there is nothing sinister in this. Conversations take place between journalists and officials all the time. This is how the business of journalism is conducted. But when the conversations involve alleged violations of the law, as defined by the Times itself, journalists have a legal obligation to provide evidence. The paper's defense of Miller is untenable. The paper isn't protecting a source; it is protecting its own reporter's curious conduct in a special-counsel investigation that the Times brought on itself.

If this is what this case is ultimately all about, then the Times and its fellow Bush-bashers will have egg all over their faces, and they will owe the administration and the public a big apology.

In any case, under no circumstances should the Congress give the press an exemption from revealing evidence in a federal proceeding. Federal media-shield laws should not be passed to reward or justify law breaking by the press.

Let's hope that Fitzgerald stands his ground and gets to the bottom of this. Miller should remain in jail until she provides some answers. It's not too much to ask or demand from journalists who affirm the public's right to know.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; bobnovak; cia; cialeak; joewilson; judithmiller; news; nytimes; operative; protections; reporters; rights; sources; valerieplame

1 posted on 07/11/2005 8:21:22 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

I doubt this if as Drudge is reporting, the NYT is about to unleash a hit piece on Rove. That would make them look worse than they already do.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 8:28:23 PM PDT by spyone
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To: CHARLITE
Wow...

Wouldn't this be fun? I've been watching Michael (Flush the Koran) Isikoff and Chrissy Matthews tonight posture and puff about Judith Miller.

I sure hope this is the case...not that I think it's very much of a threat or problem, anyway.

3 posted on 07/11/2005 8:30:38 PM PDT by Mamzelle (rot, Judy, rot)
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To: CHARLITE
Millers "jail" is like a college dorm. They have separate rooms, a main room where they can visit, play cards, watch TV. She's simply on vacation.

Rather than spill the beans, she'll wait it out in comfort and then cry victim.
If they really wanted her to talk, they'd put her in a real jail cell.

4 posted on 07/11/2005 8:31:25 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: spyone
this needs to keep bumpin'...

If NYTimes is about to do this hit piece, and they're really in the wrong...then this would sure be perfect.

And we should not underestimate the stunning arrogance of the press--"We're above all those rules that the little people have to obey"--think of the way Dan Rather behaved, and how they're still giving him medals and trophies.

5 posted on 07/11/2005 8:33:21 PM PDT by Mamzelle (rot, Judy, rot)
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To: spyone

When is the NYT not doing a hit piece on Rove? Must have missed that day.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 8:38:43 PM PDT by kingu
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To: Mamzelle
If NYTimes is about to do this hit piece, and they're really in the wrong...then this would sure be perfect.

I seriously think it's Wilson who spilled the beans. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind.

7 posted on 07/11/2005 8:45:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: CHARLITE

There is any number of reporters, pundits, and others, who have known about Plame all along, as numerous threads on this forum have demonstrated for near three years now.

There are multiple other sources who knew it as well.


8 posted on 07/11/2005 8:46:28 PM PDT by YHAOS (Western morons are more dangerous than Islamic lunatics)
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To: kingu
When is the NYT not doing a hit piece on Rove?

Sometimes on Saturday buried around the classified ads they'll run a story that if you squint just right, does not put Rove in a bad light.

This is so they can claim they are "fair and balanced".

9 posted on 07/11/2005 8:51:05 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority ("There is no terrorist threat! There is no terrorist threat!" - Michael Moore)
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To: CHARLITE

There is so much more to this story than just "IF" somebody outed a covert CIA agent.

Appears that somebody somewhere and it had to be higher than Joe Wilson and his wife's pay grade believed they could protect Saddam.


10 posted on 07/11/2005 8:53:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kingu
When is the NYT not doing a hit piece on Rove? Must have missed that day.

And here it is....At White House, a Day of Silence on Rove's Role in C.I.A. Leak

11 posted on 07/11/2005 9:01:36 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: CHARLITE
Not sure I can agree with this claim, I believe Cooper and Miller are protecting the source that helped them with their line of questioning of Rove.

A journalists would obviously seek to learn of all the accusations and who was making them and contact them before interviewing Karl Rove. Since Time Magazine has already released an email between Cooper and Rove, this should make it clear that Rove isn't the source, because Cooper was doing the questioning, and all Rove did was warn that Wilson is n ot credible, and he did so by pointing out that Wilson's Wife approved of the trip and she works at the CIA, there is no crime in that.

BUT who did Miller and Cooper interview before Rove? That is who they are protecting !!!!!!!!!!!!

12 posted on 07/11/2005 9:04:20 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: spyone
Quite the contrary. If the bull pucky is about to hit the fan, the first thing that the left does is start slinging it. You can tell what they are guilty of, and expect to be exposed for, by what they accuse others of.

It's instinct with them. Catch them stealing, and they will yell "Thief, thief!!" pointing at you. They figure by the time the crowd arrives, your claims that they just stole something will seem like defensive whining and that most of the crowd will just shrug their shoulders in confusion and wander off, muttering something about those damn politicians.

If the NYTimes is about to go big with this, it must mean that there is something requiring a big smoke bomb, to cover up.

That's one of Bush's more successful instincts. Spit on him, and he speaks honorably of you. The lefts usual way of starting a fight to cover something up doesn't work so well with Bush, because he seems never to react with outrage to what other politicians do to him.

13 posted on 07/11/2005 9:05:36 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: MJY1288
BUT who did Miller and Cooper interview before Rove? That is who they are protecting !!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT'S who the investigators are looking for right now, and I think the democrats are worried. Don't let their squealing fool you. They think if they scream loud enough, they'll get the investigation stopped at Rove. Not on our watch they won't!

14 posted on 07/11/2005 9:22:43 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: ThePythonicCow
It's instinct with them. Catch them stealing, and they will yell "Thief, thief!!" pointing at you. They figure by the time the crowd arrives, your claims that they just stole something will seem like defensive whining and that most of the crowd will just shrug their shoulders in confusion and wander off, muttering something about those damn politicians.

Pukin'Dog says the 'Rats always go for the cheese as soon as they think they see it, even after they've seen all their friends get their heads crushed in the trap. They can't help it. It's what Rats do!

15 posted on 07/11/2005 9:28:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: concerned about politics
Rove already released any reporters he spoke to from any privilege protection. Miller is a fabricator already on previous stories and she probably just made this one up also and now she can't go in front of the grand jury and admit that she lied. SO we get to see the MSM blame Rove again.

The strange part is that the rest of the MSM HATES Judith Miller because they believe that she is a tool of the Bush adminstration and Military. (quite funny considering that the majority of the MSM actually are tools of the DNC and leftist groups). Hello, Pot! Kettle for you, says you're black...

16 posted on 07/11/2005 9:59:06 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: concerned about politics
"I seriously think it's Wilson who spilled the beans. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind."

I could be wrong, but I think that Rush speculated the same thing during today's broadcast.

Char :)

17 posted on 07/11/2005 10:01:32 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: concerned about politics
"Don't let their squealing fool you. They think if they scream loud enough, they'll get the investigation stopped at Rove. Not on our watch they won't!"

Exactly. We're here.........we're "armed and dangerous, and we aren't going anywhere!"

Thanks for the very smart comment, concerned about politics!

Char :(

18 posted on 07/11/2005 10:04:56 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: concerned about politics
Yup.
19 posted on 07/11/2005 10:40:52 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: CHARLITE

Yep -- after White House criticized his report, he had an op ed piece in NYT. At about that time, I believe he bragged to a reporter (Miller?) something along the lines of "I know what I'm talking about. My wife is a secret agent!"


20 posted on 07/11/2005 10:50:18 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Mamzelle

If it was Judith, who did she leak the name to ..??


21 posted on 07/11/2005 11:41:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CHARLITE
Judith Miller should go to jail for the same reason I would have to go to jail if I did what she did. The entire notion that people who work for newspapers are some special class of people and above the law is absurd.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 07/12/2005 2:48:09 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: atomicweeder
"I know what I'm talking about. My wife is a secret agent!"

That would seem to suit his style. And let's not forget his wife is the one who divulged her own "secret" identity during sex.
23 posted on 07/12/2005 3:20:45 AM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: spyone
Fitzgerald should hold the NYT in contempt of Court, fine them a Million dollars, and an additional Half a Million a day until they comply with his court order...

If they don't pay, seize their assets.

24 posted on 07/12/2005 8:30:21 PM PDT by Wil H
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