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McCain promises war over Supreme Court
Drudge Report ^ | 07/12/2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 07/12/2005 11:02:02 AM PDT by Imani

Sen. McCain [R-AZ] Strong Words On Supreme Ct Nomination at Dallas Fundraiser: 'During the campaign, President Bush said he will appoint judges who will strictly interpret the constitution... thinking anything else is either amnesia or ignorance... elections have consequences... whomever he nominates deserves an up or down vote and no filibuster... and an up or down vote is what we will have'...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; johnmccain2008; judicialnominees; mandate; mccain; nuclear; scotus; supremecourt
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To: LibWhacker

That's my point, if conservatives are counting on the likes of a McCain to place a conservative justice, then we are starting in a deep, deep hole.


151 posted on 07/12/2005 3:29:57 PM PDT by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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To: wrathof59

that's total rubbish.


so in 2008, there will be only 6-7 justices on the SCOTUS? I'll take that bet and you'll be very poor


152 posted on 07/12/2005 3:31:35 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: wrathof59

Couldn't the Republicans in the Senate filibuster the Hillary Clinton nominations if she picks liberal wackos?


153 posted on 07/12/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: everyone

Yeah, sure. Whatever you say, MeCain. Just don't expect us to believe you.


154 posted on 07/12/2005 3:49:54 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: Imani

Did he happen to say which side he'd support in a floor vote?


155 posted on 07/12/2005 3:50:07 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("What kind of a people do they think we are?" - Winston Churchill to Congress, December 1941)
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To: Heartofsong83

"Couldn't the Republicans in the Senate filibuster the Hillary Clinton nominations if she picks liberal wackos?"

Yep, they sure could. Would they? And would they stick to it? Don't make me laugh.


156 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:12 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: ModelBreaker

BUSH IS A WHIMP HE WILL DO A RODNEY KING


157 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:04 PM PDT by deathb4dishoner
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To: katana

We give McCain a lot of grief but he is decidely pro-life, and that will help us here. Democrats are going to look like the jerks they are for stonewalling and McCain will do a good job of making them look that way -- he is, after all, perceived to be very "fair"


158 posted on 07/12/2005 3:54:02 PM PDT by hawaiian
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To: hawaiian

Doesn't matter. What matters is that McCain has a long, long track record of being manipulated by liberals and of going along with them. I don't care what he thinks about abortion if he's not a fighter who will STAND with us.


159 posted on 07/12/2005 3:56:37 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: Imani

McKook tries to redeem himself. Big deal.


160 posted on 07/12/2005 3:58:25 PM PDT by anton
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To: Howlin

Sounds like somebody running for President on the GOP side...I guess he's decided not to run on the Dem side.


161 posted on 07/12/2005 4:00:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Imani

I just called his Arizona office and thanked him for his comments of strong support for the President's nominee. They took my name and address and are forward the comments to the D.C. office. Come on, folks, some of you might not like him very much, but if he does stand tall in this battle, give him kudos. You have plenty of time to blast him during the next battle.


162 posted on 07/12/2005 4:04:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: doug from upland
McCain Arizona office --- (602) 952-2410

D.C. office --- 202-224-2235

163 posted on 07/12/2005 4:05:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Imani

I find this hard to believe it came from McCain's own mouth. Did he and Teddy break up?


164 posted on 07/12/2005 4:06:24 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Howlin

Sorry I am so late getting back to you---babysitting was a rough one today...both grandkiddies...

Okay, when I saw John McCain say that he would NOT go along with the "nuke option", he was sitting in the ballpark, I thought it was a Red Sox game.. I may have been wrong about the team...

Maybe the Nationals...sorry, but I remember distinctly seeing him, cause he was wearing a baseball cap...it was hard to take him seriously...


165 posted on 07/12/2005 4:09:28 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: ModelBreaker
Not really. He saw the conservative reaction to the gang of 7 and he wants to be president. In particular, he saw what happened to Pat DeWine's son in the primary.

Yup. He's got the squishy moderates and enough liberals Democrats are okay with him. He needs to attempt to get some conservative votes. He'll be in the tank if he opposes any conservative nominee.

166 posted on 07/12/2005 4:14:05 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Soul Seeker

Sorry it took so long to answer....

WE will not forget---

BTW, Chrissy on Hairball has his panties in the biggest wad in his life, I think...

He has this mad look on his face, like someone just stole his wife...David Gregory is lying totally about this Karl Rove story..and the one person on the show to speak up for Karl keeps getting cut off and interuppted by Chrissy and David Gregory...


167 posted on 07/12/2005 4:15:31 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Imani

I still don't McCain. Why oh why can't the good folks in Arizona vote him out?


168 posted on 07/12/2005 4:19:08 PM PDT by pctech
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To: Imani

If McCain could successfully use his influence to assure Scalia-like originalist judges and break any filibuster the Democrats might propose, he might just be on his way to becoming the Republican nominee in 2008. That is the one thing that could make the base forget about some of betrayals in the past.


169 posted on 07/12/2005 4:24:34 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Imani

170 posted on 07/12/2005 4:26:35 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: wrathof59
Unfortunately, this SCOTUS opening will not be filled IMHO.

It will go the way of the Bolton nomination and will be vacant until HRC is elected in 2008.

I wouldn't bet on your premise. Bush will take this fight to the people, and will use it in the 2006 elections. The Democrat resistance will start to pi$$ the populace off to no end, because Bush can use all of the Democrat arguments over all the past issues, and call it simple obstructionism. Handcuffing the Supreme Court will not go over well.

171 posted on 07/12/2005 4:32:17 PM PDT by khenrich (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: Seaplaner
It's smart, though, because this is, by far, the most important issue outside of the war on terror.

I think McCain got the message that he needs to be on the right side of this issue to have any chance in 2008.

Bush, for his legacy's sake and for the sake of the Republican party, needs to keep his promise on the issue as well.

172 posted on 07/12/2005 4:32:23 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Fantasywriter
Does McCain realize that he saying he wants a justice who will declare the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Law unconstitutional?

You bet he does. He has to realize just how bad the law was written, and how much it was abused in 2004.

173 posted on 07/12/2005 4:34:30 PM PDT by khenrich (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: Imani

Perhaps he finally realized he'll need conservatives to get the GOP nomination in 2008. The fool doesn't realize it's too late for him.


174 posted on 07/12/2005 4:35:32 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Imani

Yeah John, put your actions where your mouth is fella.

I have a hard time accepting this from him, and he is the only reason why.


175 posted on 07/12/2005 4:54:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

McCain is the one who sabotaged the end of the filibuster that would have guarenteed constitutionalists on the Court because he didn't want his competitors for the nomination to get credit (Frist, Allen) after he foolishly put it out there he'd vote no, and couldn't take it back without losing face.

he won't win back the base with this blatant ploy, since he is the reason we're in this mess now rather than had it settled a couple months ago.

I'm willing to use him, but I don't trust him, and his motives are purely selfish.


176 posted on 07/12/2005 4:57:32 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: doug from upland
It's a little early to start slapping ourselves on our backs when you are counting on John McCain. Why is his own argument now not the one he had for the other jurists? I know a lightning bolt didn't just hit him, and a light bulb came on. What are his motives for making this move now? My guess is that his ego overran his brain concerning him being the ringleader of the 14. The great swell of support he expected never materialized for poor John, so now it's time to try and do some fence mending. Like I said in my earlier post, I will certainly take it, but don't expect people to get all teary eyed because John McCain has discovered how to please the base. It's all a big game for Senator McCain.
177 posted on 07/12/2005 5:06:41 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: bpjam

Don't you think McCain will be on "our" side on the Supreme Court because he expects Bush to nominate Alberto Gonzales anyway? So, it's a freebie for McCain and his 2008 nomination prospects.


178 posted on 07/12/2005 5:06:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
"whomever he nominates deserves an up or down vote and no filibuster... and an up or down vote is what we will have'..."

Sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? I do believe that's one of McCain's best skills. Bluster...self-serving bluster. McCain may have made this imperial declaration, but he will switch lanes in a heartbeat if it benefits him politically.

179 posted on 07/12/2005 5:11:58 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@We Can't Trust McCain, And We Are In Deep Doo Doo with Spector At The Helm..com)
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To: Republican Red
the two of them will end up by the senator's aircraft-carrier-size outdoor gas grill, as McCain cooks skinless chicken.

I like this as a description of McCain.

180 posted on 07/12/2005 5:13:06 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: bpjam
Even in November [McCain] was on the fence for John Kerry.

No, he was not. He actively campaigned for President Bush.

181 posted on 07/12/2005 5:16:22 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Imani

McCain-flip flop light....


182 posted on 07/12/2005 5:16:54 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: bpjam

I don't trust McCain in the least. I hope someone is watching Bush's back.


183 posted on 07/12/2005 5:32:34 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: rmmcdaniell
...Once he "fights" for Gonzales, it'll give him plenty of cover to torpedo anyone else...

I knew there was a worm in that apple!

184 posted on 07/12/2005 5:40:19 PM PDT by meema
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To: Cicero
Gonz is also for affirmative action. He's a dud in my opinion.
185 posted on 07/12/2005 5:40:22 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: Imani
elections have consequences...

So do ill conceived compromises.
McCain still has time to repent.

186 posted on 07/12/2005 5:48:45 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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To: Imani
His base, moveon.org, is going to go ballistic.
187 posted on 07/12/2005 5:49:32 PM PDT by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: stylin19a

Presidential run in full swing. After the reaction from the fantastic 7, he knows he needs to make a right turn or kiss his presidential primary seeya. That's what I can't stand about the man. Stick my fingers in the air and then make a decision. Doesn't take a man to do that.


188 posted on 07/12/2005 5:57:29 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: stylin19a

yup.
he's in.


189 posted on 07/12/2005 5:58:41 PM PDT by eccl1212
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To: bpjam

"McCain is actually going to be on OUR side on this one?"

Perhaps he has been loyal to the other side so long they are starting to count on him---so he gets off on betraying them now.


190 posted on 07/12/2005 6:02:51 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Imani

I'll believe it after it happens. My faith in McCain is totally defunk!


191 posted on 07/12/2005 6:24:38 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Imani

If it were'nt for McCain's self-promoting efforts in May we would not even be discussing the prospect of SCOTUS nominee filibuster today. McCain is a turd.


192 posted on 07/12/2005 6:27:22 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter for SCOTUS!)
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To: rmmcdaniell
He knows Gonzales is one of the nominees. Once he "fights" for Gonzales, it'll give him plenty of cover to torpedo anyone else who is nominated afterwards.

After hearing Specter's brain fart today (O'Conner to Chief Justice), it occurs to me that there are more than a few Republican senators that do not want to see a conservative originalist ascend to the SCOTUS. I would count McVain among them.

193 posted on 07/12/2005 6:32:13 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter for SCOTUS!)
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To: Fantasywriter
Does McCain realize that he saying he wants a justice who will declare the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Law unconstitutional?

LOL! Great point!

194 posted on 07/12/2005 6:34:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter for SCOTUS!)
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To: Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
After screwing Frist with the "Deal", now McCrazy is stealing his thunder by getting out first with the Nuclear option. The guy is a self-aggrandizing snake.

Plus, he has seen the polling data, and it reveals that the majority were not in favor of his "deal" or of democrat obstructionism. He has deduced it is time to jump to the head of the parade (even if the parade is not going in the direction he wants). He suffers delusions of being President, not realizing that far too many think he is either a pitiful opportunist (at best) or mad (at worst).

195 posted on 07/12/2005 6:48:27 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter for SCOTUS!)
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To: Howlin
Now that is surprising.

I wonder if Dubya told them in the meeting today that either they play fair or the nuclear option is exercised.

196 posted on 07/12/2005 6:58:48 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: wrathof59
I'd like to make a friendly little wager with you on that.

We shall have a nominee, I won't guarantee you and I will be happy with him/her, but the nominee will be right of center. I'll believe McCain when it happens, but he wants to run for President, and not as a Dem, so I'm encouraged that we'll also have an up or down vote. Nominee will be SCJ when it's over.

197 posted on 07/12/2005 7:13:07 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
He suffers delusions of being President,...

So lets use it to our advanatge. let his poll numbers go up, give him the energy he needs to help carry Bushes nominations through, then we can get back to business. All contingent however on Bush nominating real Conservatives. Gonzales for Stevens, fine but not as one of the first two.

198 posted on 07/12/2005 7:33:55 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: wrathof59; AFPhys
You're statement (post #10) was, to say the least, hyperbolic. IMO, AFPhys's comment was apropos.
199 posted on 07/12/2005 7:42:35 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter for SCOTUS!)
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To: Imani

i don't understand, McCain is a republican? i'm so confused.


200 posted on 07/12/2005 7:45:20 PM PDT by postaldave (dont ask me, i'm just a simple post birth, tissue mass.)
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