Posted on 07/12/2005 3:02:52 PM PDT by george wythe
As this trying period ends we can find comfort in knowing Terri is now in a better place.
Note to Jeb, We have not forgotten, nor will we. This trying period isn't over yet. Impeach George Greer!
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Within the LAW, he could have used the authority of his office as the executive of the state to defy the court and stand in the way of the executioners. He did not. Wus.
Jeb fought for her. I know all the keyboard warriors out there wanted him to march into the hospice, but it wouldn't have worked. We only have political solutions, and none of them worked no matter how hard Bush tried.
BTW, tell me how Judge Greer, a REPUBLICAN, managed to get handily reelected while all this was going on? I think we have a serious problem here, and it's not Jeb Bush.
Easy for you to say. What would have happened after he had stormed the hospice? Would you have gotten off your keyboard and come down to help him?
People have no idea how much the Governor's staff worked on the case. It was easy to condemn but his staff really did work very hard behind the scenes.
Give me a break!!!! His name is Bush - he would have been impeached for abusing his position as Governor. The democrats would gladly have done this to rule him out as a future competitor for any political position (especially that of president).
And, you can not abuse a man because he did not overstep the authority given to him by the voters. And, what if he had taken action - it would have been overruled by the Supreme Court and then Terri would still have been killed.
And, then the impeachment proceedings would begin. Thereafter Jeb would never have a chance for any other office. A total waste and a huge hit to the conservative movement. An effort that would have done nothing to save Terri.
So, why would people want to blame him in every post? Why so hard on Jeb? Because they are working for his ruin for whatever reason. They are democrats, they are Alan Keyes supporters, they are ignorant - I don't know which reason.
However, they ruin their credibility with the extreme efforts to attack Jeb Bush - the one politician that did anything for Terri. There is another purpose in the efforts to ruin Jeb.
I have taken issue all along with all the tirades on every post against Jeb. It looks highly suspicious - especially when the first person pinged after one of my statements was a former Keyes campaign manager.
And, if any are willing to destroy Jeb Bush over this because he would not take action that he felt overstepped his authority as governor, something is wrong. You want a governor that oversteps his authority when demanded?
And, the fact that you do not care about ruining one of the best conservatives on the horizon for the conservative movement for some future position that could help the conservative efforts, tells me a lot about the goals.
I don't know what any think is gained by trashing Jeb continually rather than getting out and fighting the re-election of the legislature members that did not vote for Terri. Other than the real goal is Jeb - not the ones voting against Terri.
Why is the goal Jeb? Why do you want a governor to take action that would lead to impeachment and the firm installation of the judicial branch over the executive branches of government? Look at what Jeb had to fight. The courts, the Florida Supreme Court and the U.S. Supreme Court. Now just how in the world do you think he could have won?
Other than listening to the miraculous claims of a way from A. Keyes trying to get himself in the picture. Easy for him to say there is a way, get Jeb to follow it, and then, lo, Jeb is impeached because the supremes did not see it as Keyes saw it. Gee, sorry about that.
But, maybe we can just get Keyes to run for those future offices that Jeb might have gained.
Right - Bush is not elected to over-ride the laws of the State of Florida, but to uphold them. The lawmakers are at fault because they got these laws on the book without anyone realizing it could so easily be abused.
But, it must be "in" to start every thread with "let's hate Jeb".
And, it shows where they stand as conservatives. They don't bother to go after the real abusers - just go after the one they could not make exceed his authority for "show".
Wonder if any of them have done anything about contacting the lawmakers to get those laws changed? I would expect not - the real goal is to ruin Jeb Bush for future political office.
Why impeach Greer - he will only be in office for one year. By the time the impeachment was processed, he would have been out through normal procedures.
Another wasted effort - impeach a man that will be leaving anyway. What about the congress members that wrote those laws? What about getting those laws changed?
This is not the end of this "trying period" nor the
beginning of the end. It is only the end of the beginning.
The prospect is terrifying.
I agree that there's a serious problem indicated by
Greer's re-election.
Pretty much the usual way...the majority (65%) of the voters in his district (Pinellas and Pasco counties of Florida) voted for him, rather than his opponent.
Just FYI...judicial terms in Florida are for 6 years. Judge Greer's current term, to which he was reelected in 2004, ends in 2010 (5½ years from now). He has already indicated that he will not run again at that time, as he would be facing Florida's mandatory retirement age just a year into a new term.
Exactly. I personally would have gone down in person and crossed that line if I was the governor. Think of the powerful statement that would have made, especially to the conservatives. Much better then lip service.
Thank you for your comments. You're absolutely right about Jeb Bush and his staff.
I had heard that he only had one year left. Hate to have him around for 5 more years - impeach the creep. The government does not have the authority to kill non-dying citizens. (IMHO)
And, if they do have the right by law - the law must be changed by the people. It undermines the rights of citizens.
When a law decrees that it's okay to murder a human being, that is no law. Jeb had a moral obligation to do the right thing and he hid. There were, however, children being handcuffed and hauled away for trying to bring water to Terri. No, Jeb has NO excuse.
In response to a request, this memorandum is submitted addressing whether the governor of the State of Florida has the constitutional power to stop a Florida court order conferring upon the husband of Terri Schindler-Schiavo the sole discretionary power to disconnect his brain-disabled wifes feeding tube.Not only does the governor have such power, but the governor has a constitutional duty to prevent any action taken pursuant to such a court order, because such action would violate Ms. Schindler-Shiavos constitutionally guaranteed inalienable right to enjoy and defend life regardless of her physical disability as secured by Article I, Section 2 of the Florida State Constitution.
According to Article I, Section 2, [a]ll natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law, and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life .... Additionally, Article I, Section 2 provides that no person shall be deprived of any right [including the right to enjoy life] because of ... physical disability.
According to Article IV, Section 1, the supreme executive power of the state of Florida is vested in the governor ... who shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. Thus, the governor has the power, indeed the duty, to ensure that this constitutional guarantee of the inalienable right ... to enjoy and defend life, regardless of physical disability, is preserved.
In the exercise of this his take care powers, the governor is not bound by a court order, such as the one in the Schindler-Schiavo case, when that court order is inconsistent with the actual constitutional guarantee. As President Andrew Jackson once observed, judicial precedent is a dangerous source of authority, and should not be regarded as deciding questions of constitutional power. This observation is especially significant in determining the scope of the constitutional powers of the office of governor, a separate and independent branch from the judiciary.
Again, as President Jackson put it, the chief executive officer of a government is bound by his oath of office to decide matters of constitutional right and power according to the executives interpretation of the constitution, not according to the judiciarys interpretation. Therefore, if the governor believes that Ms. Schindler-Schiavo has the constitutional right to enjoy life regardless of her present disability, as he has stated in filings submitted to the courts, then the governor is duty bound to stop any action taken pursuant to that unconstitutional order that would result in the deprivation of Ms. Schindler-Shiavos constitutional right to life.
Such executive intervention into the judicial processes does not violate the separation of powers. To the contrary, as Alexander Hamilton stated in Federalist No. 78, the exercise of judicial power is subject to the check and balance of the executive branch which, alone, has the power to enforce a judicial order. Thus, if a court order is contrary to the law of the inalienable right to life as the order in the Schindler-Schiavo case surely is then according to Article IV, Section 1 of the Florida Constitution, the governor, vested with the supreme executive power, should intervene to stop any action taken pursuant to that court order.
After all, as the great English legal authority Sir William Blackstone stated a court opinion or order and the law are not the same thing, in that a court opinion or order may be contrary to law, and therefore, not law at all. I W. Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England 71 (Univ. Chi. Facs. Ed: 1765).
If the governor allows a court order granting discretion to one person to decide for another person whether the latter person lives or dies to go unchallenged, then he would fail to take care that the law of the equal right to life, as secured by Article I, Section 2 of the Florida Constitution even for the physically "disabled, is faithfully executed.
Governor Bush’s contact information is as follows:
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