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The real Rove scandal: If you can't shoot the messenger, take aim at his wife.
LA Times ^ | July 12, 2005 | Robert Scheer

Posted on 07/12/2005 3:31:58 PM PDT by Crackingham

That clearly was the intent of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove in leaking to a reporter that former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA agent. To try to conceal the fact that the president had lied to the American public about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program, Rove attempted to destroy the credibility of two national security veterans and send an intimidating message to any other government officials preparing to publicly tell the truth.

Rove's lawyer now says that Rove didn't break the law against naming covert agents because he didn't know Plame's name and therefore couldn't have revealed it. Perhaps he can use such a technicality in court, but in the meantime he should resign immediately — or be fired by the president — for leaking classified information, trying to smear Wilson and possibly endangering Plame's life.

"The White House promised if anyone was involved in the Valerie Plame affair, they would no longer be in this administration," said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). "I trust they will follow through on this pledge."

The background on this story is crucial. Ambassador Wilson had been honored as a patriot by President George H.W. Bush for standing up to Saddam Hussein in a face-to-face confrontation in Baghdad on the eve of the Persian Gulf War. But in 2003, Wilson committed an unpardonable crime in the eyes of the second Bush White House. He exposed its lies about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; hahahahaha; inyourdreams; josephwilson; nicetrybobby; valerieplame
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1 posted on 07/12/2005 3:32:00 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Aha! Trust the LATime to cut right to the heart of the matter.


2 posted on 07/12/2005 3:33:42 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Crackingham

There are so many errors of fact in this piece one simply doesn't know where to begin.


3 posted on 07/12/2005 3:33:55 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: Crackingham

OKay, you know what Robert Sheer is, don't ya?


4 posted on 07/12/2005 3:34:12 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Crackingham

BAAAAAARF!!!


5 posted on 07/12/2005 3:34:23 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: JennysCool
Amen to that..It's "clearly the intent" of the slimes to convolute the story..
6 posted on 07/12/2005 3:34:42 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Crackingham

These people (liberals) are more phuqed up than a soup sandwich. Unreal. It does'nt take much to send them off after the geese, huh?


7 posted on 07/12/2005 3:34:57 PM PDT by Shaka
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8 posted on 07/12/2005 3:36:16 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Crackingham

Did Michael Moore write this?


9 posted on 07/12/2005 3:36:32 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: Abcdefg
?
10 posted on 07/12/2005 3:37:19 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Abcdefg
OKay, you know what Robert Sheer is, don't ya?

A guy that once wrote an entire book extolling the virtues of North Korea's government.

11 posted on 07/12/2005 3:37:30 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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To: Southack

He is a supporter of the head moonbat....:-)


12 posted on 07/12/2005 3:37:48 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Crackingham

The original Malibu Marxist adds his quota of smog.


13 posted on 07/12/2005 3:38:41 PM PDT by Argus
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To: JennysCool
There are so many errors of fact in this piece one simply doesn't know where to begin.

So many lies, so little time. Isn't that always the case when dealing with these people?

14 posted on 07/12/2005 3:40:13 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (I (heart) Karl Rove)
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To: Crackingham

LAT "If you can't take down the president, go after his chief of staff"


15 posted on 07/12/2005 3:40:27 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Crackingham

Brit Hume just said Plame was the one who notified Joe Wilson that he was assigned the trip to Niger. She started with "There's this crazy report (about Saddam wanting to buy uranium from Niger)." Wilson's attorney also denied that Wilson's wife involved in the sending of Joe to Niger...even though a CIA agent testified to that and there is a email from Plame recommending that her husband should be assigned to go.

Also on Fox tonight, John Gibson recommended that Rove be given a medal for exposing a CIA agent (Plame) who knows her husbands thoughts on the war has the CIA send her husband on such a critical mission. Who was trying to harm national security???? "There's this crazy report...", nope, no bias there.

The media is spinning this real hard. And I believe they are going to get burned....big time!


16 posted on 07/12/2005 3:40:34 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: Crackingham

The rats are about to look very silly, consider the following:

IT WAS JUST REPORTED ON FOX CABLE NEWS THAT HER NAME WAS ON HER HUSBAND'S WEBSITE AND HE ID'ED HER THERE AS WORKING FOR THE CIA, THIS BEFORE ROVE SPOKE WITH THE REPORTER(S).

AND IF ROVE DIDN"T GET THE INFO FROM A CLASSIFIED SOURCE BUT FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE (HER HUSBANDS WEBSITE)THERE IS NO VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

sorry for the caps but I feel like yelling this...lol


17 posted on 07/12/2005 3:40:36 PM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight the Muslim Army in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Which do you prefer?)
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To: Crackingham
Makes you wonder how many other covert operatives were killed by Roves leaks to the press(actual statement made to me by a barking moonbat). I am still laughing. They are just so crazy with hate of all things Bush.
18 posted on 07/12/2005 3:41:05 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 ( Heaven on Earth is where the nearest Starbucks is 60 miles away.)
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To: Crackingham
We've got us a full blown, hysterical, democrat media orgy,
now that Scheer has popped his head up.
Machete, anyone?
19 posted on 07/12/2005 3:42:23 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Argus
Perhaps he can use such a technicality in court

Gee is that like Clinton not "technically" committing perjury?
20 posted on 07/12/2005 3:42:46 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Crackingham
That clearly was the intent of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove in leaking to a reporter that former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA agent.

Prove it.

Rove's lawyer now says that Rove didn't break the law against naming covert agents because he didn't know Plame's name and therefore couldn't have revealed it.

It doesn't matter anyway. Her status had been lowered so much, the law didn't cover for her. She was no longer "covert." I could have screamed her name and CIA status from a roof top and there would be nothing anyone could do about it.

This story will die like all the others. It's another left wing hate fest and non-event.

This is the new "Demogate" scandal. They just can't help themselves.

21 posted on 07/12/2005 3:43:00 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Abcdefg
Yes I do! I understand he is to be Juan Williams replacement on the FOX Sunday panel. He is the only one that is more stupid than Juan!
22 posted on 07/12/2005 3:43:17 PM PDT by sinbad17
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To: Crackingham

Where's the barf alert?


23 posted on 07/12/2005 3:43:18 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Crackingham

This guy should get a new career in fiction, It's obvious he doesn't know the facts of this case


24 posted on 07/12/2005 3:43:25 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Crackingham
Looks like Howard Dean Syndrome.
{ They are starting to believe their own propaganda.}
25 posted on 07/12/2005 3:45:49 PM PDT by labette (In the beginning, God...)
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translation: "If you're a reporter whose wife is a DemoncRAT operative (Mandy "Moustache" Grunwald) and you're determined to do all you can to damage the Bush Administration, seek cover from your fellow journalists and LIE, LIE, LIE!"


26 posted on 07/12/2005 3:46:20 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; JennysCool
We can start here:

The background on this story is crucial. Ambassador Wilson had been honored as a patriot by President George H.W. Bush for standing up to Saddam Hussein in a face-to-face confrontation in Baghdad on the eve of the Persian Gulf War. But in 2003, Wilson committed an unpardonable crime in the eyes of the second Bush White House. He exposed its lies about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. In 16 now infamous words in Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech, the president — desperate to gain support for an invasion he was dead set on initiating — tried to scare Americans into believing Iraq was close to making nuclear weapons. "The British government," he told the nation, "has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." But the key documents that the claim was based on had already been proved to be fakes, and other intelligence reports along these lines were extremely speculative. In fact, it was a CIA-organized mission by Wilson to the African country of Niger (where he had served as ambassador) that determined the reports were false. Wilson was therefore shocked to hear the uranium claims in the president's speech. When he exposed the chicanery in a New York Times commentary, Wilson became a prime target for a White House smear job.

The FACTS, as told by the Washington Post, from the Senate Intelligence Committee Report:

Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.

Yesterday's report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched "yellowcake" uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question. Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said.

The report turns a harsh spotlight on what Wilson has said about his role in gathering prewar intelligence, most pointedly by asserting that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, recommended him.

Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission

27 posted on 07/12/2005 3:47:26 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Crackingham
This guy is a real loony tune.
28 posted on 07/12/2005 3:47:49 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Steven W.; MJY1288

This is absolutely amazing just for it's blatant lies.


29 posted on 07/12/2005 3:48:11 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Southack
Donor name: scheer, r

LOL. Kucinich, Dennis.
This hit piece author leans so far to the left, he probably falls out of his chair every time he sits down to make up a news story!

30 posted on 07/12/2005 3:48:41 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: All
Just found this piece of info that I haven't seen anywhere else: Valerie Plame's campaign contributions
31 posted on 07/12/2005 3:49:21 PM PDT by dollar_dog
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To: labette
BINGO, The Democrats are in complete meltdown mode IMHO, They still haven't gotten over the 2000 election and they simply can't stop beating the scores of dead Horses on their path to irrelevance
32 posted on 07/12/2005 3:49:22 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Crackingham

The Libs conspiracy theories (i.e. Son's of Watergate) always sound great...until the actual facts come out!!!


33 posted on 07/12/2005 3:49:54 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: Howlin

I read this stuff and I wonder how this crap gets past the Editor. This article isn't worthy of DU, much less a national newspaper


34 posted on 07/12/2005 3:50:34 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Crackingham

Question is, why in the world did Dick Cheney send this Wilson guy to Niger in the first place? Why did they need anything HE would come up with?


35 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:10 PM PDT by podkane
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To: Howlin

Thank you! I just didn't have the patience!


36 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:11 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: JennysCool

It was only sex,....er, talk...every Chief of Staff did it, even Lincoln's COS....it's not impeachable....

If you don't believe it, I have over 400 historians ready, willing and able to take out an add in NYT to convince you.

W should tell everyone to STFU and if they don't like it, they don't have to vote for him in '08. Better yet, W can pre-pardon him (ala Slick Willie) in case the next administration gets vengeful....


37 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:17 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Southack

He's donated twice to Kucinich? The guy is a retard squared....


38 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:27 PM PDT by freebilly (Vast Right Wing Conservative Christian Heterosexual Conspirator....)
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To: concerned about politics

Bump.


39 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:35 PM PDT by Rocko ("The ratio of damn fools to villains is high." -- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Southack

You know what, that info is a great idea. Just like CNBC requires any guests to disclose if they have a relationship with the company in question, each Reporter should be required to list their donations to political parties at the beginning of each article.


40 posted on 07/12/2005 3:51:54 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: stockpirate; Howlin
IT WAS JUST REPORTED ON FOX CABLE NEWS THAT HER NAME WAS ON HER HUSBAND'S WEBSITE AND HE ID'ED HER THERE AS WORKING FOR THE CIA

I knew it would be Wilson.

Howlin! Ping! Let's dance!!!

41 posted on 07/12/2005 3:52:16 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: JennysCool

Well, you notice I didn't go any further than that.


42 posted on 07/12/2005 3:52:23 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Crackingham
Oh how funny! Does this idiot really think any reporter is going to stay in jail to protect Rove's name?

Even their moon-batty theories go beyond this time!

Have you SEEN Kerry's face today?????

43 posted on 07/12/2005 3:52:47 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("The cause of freedom will prevail" George W Bush -7/11/05)
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To: Crackingham

Robert Scheer should resign or be fired for being a complete idiot.


44 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Crackingham
The real Rove scandal: If you can't shoot the messenger, take aim at his wife.

You mean the "wife" sent the "messenger" to Africa as a political setup in the first place?

45 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Howlin

Have you seen the clip of John Kerry expressing his outrage.... ROFLMAO, What a poser that idiot is, he can't even give a convincing "Outrage" press conference. Kerry is more boring than watching grass grow


46 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:29 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Crackingham

This "journalist" misses entirely what happened. Wilson's wife sent him to Niger. Rove was asked who sent him to Niger. How do you extrapolate from this that Rove was "after" Wilson's wife? Sheese, these guys are so far gone in hate-Rove fantasyland, that they'll propose anything.


47 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:32 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: concerned about politics

Oh my.....ain't we got fun?


48 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:36 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Abcdefg

Scheer has had an interesting career in journalism. He started at the radical left publication Ramparts in the 60s, then become a national correspondent for the L.A. Times for 17 years. For the past eight, he has been a columnist whose work appears weekly in the Times and papers across the country. He also co-hosts a radio show on an affiliate of National Public Radio in Los Angeles and writes for publications like The Nation. Throughout his career, Scheer has been one of America's leading liberal pundits, reliably bashing Republicans and many conservative Democrats. Dissemble, spin, repeat

An overview of Scheer's writing reveals that one of his favorite tactics is to create a politically potent trope and repeat it over and over until it seems true. When faced with criticism, Scheer simply dismisses his critics without addressing their arguments and continues to repeat his idea, as if the more he says it, the truer it becomes.

Scheer Deception: The Lies and Jargon of Robert Scheer

By Ben Fritz (ben@spinsanity.org)
October 8, 2001

49 posted on 07/12/2005 3:53:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MJY1288

I saw that; and I saw "The Nodder" right next to him, not saying anything, but acting like she agreed. Plausible denial.


50 posted on 07/12/2005 3:54:20 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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