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Mexico Requests Tougher Efforts To Halt Border Weapons Trafficking
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Posted on 07/12/2005 9:29:42 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

Mexico Requests Tougher Efforts To Halt Border Weapons Trafficking

Mexico is asking the U.S. to strengthen efforts to halt arms trafficking along the Mexican border, a spokesman for Mexican President Vicente Fox said Monday.

The request was delivered Friday at a U.S.-Mexico working group on arms trafficking.

It comes after recent complaints that Mexican organized crime groups have access to high-tech weaponry that could only come from the United States.

Mexican federal police and soldiers arrived in two border states this month to help control a surge in violence linked to drug trafficking groups.

Meanwhile a man was shot to death and assailants shot up a motel in what appeared to be drug-related attacks in the Mexican border city of Nuevo Laredo, despite the presence of federal forces sent to quell violence in the city across the Rio Grande from Laredo.

Assailants with automatic weapons entered the Tres Caminos motel Sunday and shot up three rooms.

No one was killed, but witnesses told police at least three men were taken from the hotel by the gunmen.

It was the most brazen attack since the Mexican president sent soldiers and federal agents to take over the city.

Violence has increased all along the border as Mexico's two main drug gangs fight to control smuggling routes.

Nuevo Laredo is on the front line of the battle.

More than 70 people have been killed there since January.


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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse on the Mexican border . .
1 posted on 07/12/2005 9:29:43 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe

And it's OUR fault that they have high-tech weaponry.


2 posted on 07/12/2005 9:32:36 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Happy2BMe

Imagine the absurdity of Mexico asking us to help them on a border related matter? If we were to help Mexico the way it helps us, we'd be printing the best way to sneak advanced weapons into Mexico. BTW, I think Mexico should provide water stations in the desert so gun smugglers don't get ill.


3 posted on 07/12/2005 9:35:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Boazo; Smartass; JohnHuang2; keri; ...
Even with the presence of Mexican Federal Troops in the city, they still cannot bring calm to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico.

Imagine if President Bush had to deploy the U.S. military to squash widespread insurrection in areas as large as an entire state!

(Now the Mexican gubmint is blaming the United States of exporting terror to Mexico . .)

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Mexico is asking the U.S. to strengthen efforts to halt arms trafficking along the Mexican border, a spokesman for Mexican President Vicente Fox said Monday.

Mexican federal police and soldiers arrived in two border states this month to help control a surge in violence linked to drug trafficking groups.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 9:35:43 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Amazing!


5 posted on 07/12/2005 9:39:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: DoughtyOne
How on earth did the greatest superpower in the history of the world get itself in the position of being dictated to by a 2-bit taco stand?

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Mexican candidate says U.S. must liberalize immigration

6 posted on 07/12/2005 9:39:58 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: All
Border Patrol agent fired on near border;...deputy attacked by rock-throwing illegals

7 posted on 07/12/2005 9:42:05 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Leadership or more precisely the lack thereof...


8 posted on 07/12/2005 9:43:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Happy2BMe
"Mexican organized crime groups have access to high-tech weaponry that could only come from the United States" ... and we have low tech illegals who could only come from Mexico. Let's make a deal..
9 posted on 07/12/2005 9:47:40 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Hands across the border.

President Bush is slowly backing himself into a corner with his stance on the border situation.

Already civilians are taking matters into their own hands.

Unless our federal government acts and acts quickly I see things deteriorating into shear chaos along the Southern Frontier.

Once civilian groups become heavily involved there will be no turning back.

I hear people, mostly liberals and do-gooders saying that the military can not come on the border.

Well, how do these same people explain the thousands of troops placed down here nearly a hundred years ago to chase bandits such as Pancho Villa.

It's time to shut down these drug dictators and that time is now.
10 posted on 07/12/2005 9:50:18 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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What's the problem? They were weapons Americans probably didn't want. < /sarcasm >

Oh, man. It just never ends. And of course El Presidente Bush will hop to and help his amigo Vicente Fox without even considering raising the "sensitive" issue of "undocumented workers." Because Mexico is our friend, dontcha know?

I'm sick of it. Mexico can go @#$% itself for all I care, just as long as they stay down wind. I find I am quite averse to the stench of corruption.

11 posted on 07/12/2005 9:59:48 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Shut down the border, station our troops there. Build bases, keep them down there. Since most of our future action will be in desert climates, better that our troops get the experience chasing folks through canyons and hot weather.

Enough is enough.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 9:59:49 PM PDT by kingu
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To: OKIEDOC; KittyKares; DoughtyOne; Reagan Man; A.B.Normal
President Bush is slowly backing himself into a corner with his stance on the border situation.

Already civilians are taking matters into their own hands.

Unless our federal government acts and acts quickly I see things deteriorating into shear chaos along the Southern Frontier.

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You're too late - the president may have well procrastinated too long - taken too much time . .

The chaos is now completely out of control in Mexico and that is one of the main reasons we are undergoing an illegal alien invasion here in the United States - widespread terror reigns in Mexico.

In other words - we are importing our own self-destruction.

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Even the Mexicans themselves are in open panic . .

Thousands of citizens have come face to face with crime, a growing reality in Mexico. Carjacking, robberies, kidnappings and worse are all too familiar occurrences shared by most families and friends.

Victim’s personal experiences are flippantly revealed as war stories, in what Mexicans see as a perpetual battle between their right to expect a good and safe way of life, and reality.

A conflict they are constantly reminded of by an unremitting media stream of crime reports, and ceaseless revelations of corruption.

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Mexico’s crackdown on crime — is it too late?

13 posted on 07/12/2005 10:00:26 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
You make an excellent point for the Mexicans! Ask for asylum based on political upheaval!
14 posted on 07/12/2005 10:02:24 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Bush was all too happy to have Mexico implode rather than force Fox to get his house in order. Now we all pay.

That's leadership?


15 posted on 07/12/2005 10:03:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Mexico is asking the U.S. to strengthen efforts to halt arms trafficking along the Mexican border, a spokesman for Mexican President Vicente Fox said Monday.

The pot calls the kettle black!

16 posted on 07/12/2005 10:03:23 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: A.B.Normal
Why ask for asylum when you have a-m-n-e-s-t-y?
17 posted on 07/12/2005 10:03:48 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Look, IT'S NOT AMNESTY and you know it.

It's work program that lasts 6 years and then gets extended for another six and another six and another six and another six unto the fourth and fifth generations of them that love Mexico and refuse to assimilate.

</ half sarcasm half reality >


18 posted on 07/12/2005 10:07:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Happy2BMe

A-m-n-e-s-t-y was Reagan's dwwd, and Bush wants to play the same game. Why wait for A-m-n-e-s-t-y when they can ask for A-s-y-l-u-m NOW!


19 posted on 07/12/2005 10:07:13 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: Happy2BMe

This border situation is out of control. Even Mexico is asking USA to step up border security.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 10:08:59 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (We're not vigilantes! We're undocumented Border Patrol agents!)
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To: A.B.Normal

PS my cheap keyboard sticks and stinks - hecho en Mexico. Sorry for dwwd which could eb dood or dude but was deed.


21 posted on 07/12/2005 10:09:38 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: DoughtyOne

PresBush has offered no leadership on the issue of illegal immigration. Sadly, Bush appears to support open borders, which has further undermined the US Constitution and strained major portions of the nations social and fiscal infrastructure. The vast majority of Americans don't support open borders or amnesty. Something Bush has kept right on ignoring.


22 posted on 07/12/2005 10:12:52 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Happy2BMe; devolve; ntnychik

It's the Mexican side of the border that checks your vehicle when you enter Mexico so if weapons are going in it's their fault!!

When we go down for White wing hunting the beginning of September we check and double check our cars for a single shotgun shell laying around. Don't want to end up in a Mexican jail!!


23 posted on 07/12/2005 10:13:27 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
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24 posted on 07/12/2005 10:15:35 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: A.B.Normal; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Gipper08
"A-m-n-e-s-t-y was Reagan's dwwd, and Bush wants to play the same game."

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Let's set the record straight on that, shall we please?

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Ronald Reagan's Big Mistake

25 posted on 07/12/2005 10:18:18 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: potlatch

They don't want any guns in their country because the common people would use them on the corrupt politicians.


26 posted on 07/12/2005 10:18:46 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: OKIEDOC

LOL, I think you're right. Only the drug runners can have the guns.


27 posted on 07/12/2005 10:22:55 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Happy2BMe

This reminds me of Saudi Arabia. Both Saudi and Mexican govts overlooked their problems: terrorist groups In Saudi Arabia, and the drug cartels in Mexico.
Now, the pot is boiling over in both countries, and they are looking to the U.S.A. for help.


28 posted on 07/12/2005 10:23:38 PM PDT by FBD
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To: Happy2BMe

LOL, that's a good one Happy!


29 posted on 07/12/2005 10:24:02 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Happy2BMe
It comes after recent complaints that Mexican organized crime groups have access to high-tech weaponry that could only come from the United States.

Humm. I wonder of some of those "Mexican organized crime groups" would be citizen (or subject) militias plotting to overthrow the corruption.

30 posted on 07/12/2005 10:26:36 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

Then who would be left to protect the drug cartels?


31 posted on 07/12/2005 10:27:56 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Reagan Man

I agree with your assessment, and it doesn't please me to feel compelled to view the Bush administration in this light.

One of the most troubling aspect of this is that "conservatives" (and I use that term very loosely), are plenty happy to facilitate this travesty of constitutional adherence on the part of the president.

IMO we should all be advocating strong support of Bush's policies with regard to Iraq. He deserves that support, and it's good for the nation.

On the other hand we should to a man and woman be skewering him in no uncertain terms with his refusal to adhere to his oath of office as it applies to protecting the states against invasion.

That this hasn't and doesn't take place has told me that "true conservatism" is all but dead in this nation. As long as it's our guy, the U.S. Constitution means nothing more to these pretenders than a role of toilet paper that someone who will go un-named at this point, uses to wipe his butt with.

This is truly demoralizing. Our team is basically no team. How sad it has been to find this out.


32 posted on 07/12/2005 10:29:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Could be the drug cartels are the ones issuing the announcement.

33 posted on 07/12/2005 10:31:22 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Reagan Man
From out of the past . . sanity and integrity call out to us . .

Theodore Roosevelt
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149 May 7, 1918


34 posted on 07/12/2005 10:33:52 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: OKIEDOC
Well, how do these same people explain the thousands of troops placed down here nearly a hundred years ago to chase bandits such as Pancho Villa.

That was before the Pussy Communist Act was passed.

35 posted on 07/12/2005 10:35:31 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: Happy2BMe
What and excellent timely poignant quotation.
36 posted on 07/12/2005 10:38:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: William Terrell
The Mexican Hierarchy (In Order Of Political and Economic Dominance) . .

#1 - The Mexican Oil Industry (coveted by Communist China)

#2 - Revenue from the "THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY" out of the United States

and . .

#3 - The Drug Cartel (which controls the other two through terror and coercion)


37 posted on 07/12/2005 10:42:16 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe



38 posted on 07/12/2005 11:15:19 PM PDT by devolve (-------------------------------------------------)
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To: Happy2BMe
"right to expect a good and safe way of life, and reality"

The Bush Administration says they have the right to expect a good and safe way of life. All that's necessary is slip across the border and BINGO!, you shall have it. Then there's the American citizen and the Minutemen who defy the Bush Administration and Liberal Courts. We are doing all we can to prevent their right to expect a good and safe way of life because we live in a world where reality exists.

Reality is a Bitch


>>• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,strung 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.<<

Reality is a Bitch

39 posted on 07/13/2005 4:56:46 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Happy2BMe

I know I cannot be the only one who finds this story and the request really funny.


40 posted on 07/13/2005 6:09:58 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: DoughtyOne
We are in basic agreement on this one.

As I said just last night to another FReeper.

"While the President has done a remarkable job in prosecuting the WOT and while his tax cuts for American workers advanced a major component to the agenda of the conservative movement, the President has failed to hold down social spending and limit the growth of the federal bureaucracy."

"If the President doesn't stick to his word and nominate conservative jurists to the USSC who are in the mold of Scalia and Thomas, he will have let down conservatives once again."

41 posted on 07/13/2005 8:53:51 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Happy2BMe; NationalistVisionary; whipitgood; servantboy777; Flyer; Jack Black; selucreh; ...

Gun Runners Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


42 posted on 07/13/2005 8:55:54 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico-beyond your expectations! !)
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To: Pro-Bush
This border situation is out of control. Even Mexico is asking USA to step up border security.

In the name of being good neighbors I absolutely feel that we should do our best to comply vigorously with El Presidente Fox's request. Deploy the National Guard on the borders immediately!

43 posted on 07/13/2005 9:05:15 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Happy2BMe

44 posted on 07/13/2005 9:34:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Happy2BMe

that's a laugh!

the only people that have guns in mexico are the government and criminals.


45 posted on 07/13/2005 9:37:32 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: OKIEDOC

That's the way it works in most countries, the innocent civilians are caught between the police/military and the gangsters. Every American citizen should have two or more guns in his/her home and know how to use them.


46 posted on 07/13/2005 10:30:18 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Americanexpat
I can agree to that.

As long as the populace maintains it's right bear arms and to use weapons then the chances of loosing all their freedoms is greatly diminished.
47 posted on 07/13/2005 10:38:17 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Thanks for the pings.

Greatly appreciated.


48 posted on 07/13/2005 6:36:01 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Property tax is eternal rent. You can never own your own land. Why?)
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To: Happy2BMe; HiJinx

I'd laugh if this were a joke - Mexico throws responsibility for everything else they can on the US taxpayer, now they want us to police them.

We oughta annex Mexico once for all.


49 posted on 07/13/2005 6:39:41 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud

It appears to be the other way around - Mexico is annexing us.


50 posted on 07/13/2005 6:53:17 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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