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I feel no sympathy for you, killer tells van Gogh family
The Daily Telegraph ^ | July 13, 2005 | Anthony Browne

Posted on 07/12/2005 10:58:39 PM PDT by MadIvan

THE self-confessed killer of Theo van Gogh faced his victim’s mother in an Amsterdam courtroom yesterday and told her that he felt no remorse for his crime.

Turning his chair towards Anneke van Gogh as she watched from the public gallery, Mohammed Bouyeri said: “I don’t feel your pain. I don’t have any sympathy for you. I can’t feel for you because I think you’re a non-believer.”

The Islamic radical admitted killing Mr van Gogh, a Dutch film-maker, saying that he had been driven by his religious beliefs and would do the same again.

Bouyeri, the son of Moroccan immigrants to the Netherlands, is accused of shooting and stabbing Mr van Gogh to death in broad daylight on a street in Amsterdam last November, before nearly decapitating him and impaling his corpse with a knife, which secured a five-page note declaring a holy war.

Despite insisting on his right to silence when the trial opened on Monday, Bouyeri spoke out publicly for the first time about the murder, which provoked a wave of ethnic and religious violence across the once-tolerant country.

Clutching the Koran and wearing a flowing robe and chequered headscarf, Bouyeri praised Allah and the Prophet Muhammad before admitting the killing. In a chilling insight into his mindset, he told the panel of judges: “I did what I did purely out of my beliefs. I want you to know that I acted out of conviction and not that I took his life because he was Dutch or because I was Moroccan and felt insulted.”

Seven months before his murder Mr van Gogh had produced a film about domestic violence in Islam that had offended many Muslims. Bouyeri insisted: “If I ever get free, I would do it again.”

He was caught by police in a gun battle after he fled the scene of the crime spattered in Mr van Gogh’s blood. A note was found in his pocket saying that he wanted to become a martyr.

Speaking in Dutch with a Moroccan accent, he turned to police in the court and said: “I shot to kill and be killed. You cannot understand.”

Some spectators rose to their feet, visibly stunned by his comments. The confession and lack of remorse highlight the worst fears haunting mainstream Dutch society about the seemingly unbridgeable gap between them and some of the alienated Muslim youths growing up in the country. The well-educated Bouyeri, 27, had been a moderate Muslim who was considered reasonably well integrated before becoming radicalised nearly two years ago.

The prosecutors say that he had become dedicated to conducting a holy war against the enemies of Islam and had murdered Mr van Gogh to spread terror in the Netherlands. They claim that he is part of a network of Islamic extremists with international links called the Hofstad group, many of whose members are awaiting trail on terrorism charges in Rotterdam.

Frits van Straelen, the chief prosecutor, told the court: “The accused preaches a message of hate and violence. He preaches that anyone who thinks differently can be killed.”

The verdict is expected on July 26. Bouyeri faces life imprisonment without parole.


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Prime Minister, Mr. President, do you want to re-think that whole "religion of peace" rubbish?

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/12/2005 10:58:40 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: knighthawk; Semper911; lutz; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/12/2005 10:59:03 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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The verdict is expected on July 26. Bouyeri faces life imprisonment without parole.

Where he'll spend his days seeking new recruits to carry on the fight, no doubt.

4 posted on 07/12/2005 11:01:12 PM PDT by eric_da_grate
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To: William Creel

Flog him to death.


5 posted on 07/12/2005 11:01:27 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: claudiustg

at the very least


6 posted on 07/12/2005 11:02:19 PM PDT by injin
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To: MadIvan

Do you think this story will be on BBC? or NBC?


7 posted on 07/12/2005 11:02:28 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: MadIvan
Do the Dutch have the death penalty, or have they done away with it?
8 posted on 07/12/2005 11:02:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: aquila48

It was just on Sky News.

Regards, Ivan


9 posted on 07/12/2005 11:02:59 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: nopardons

No, no death penalty in the Netherlands. I suspect they regret that now.

Regards, Ivan


10 posted on 07/12/2005 11:03:22 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan

90% percent of European Muslims support this thing. Europe is lost.


11 posted on 07/12/2005 11:03:33 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: aquila48

It was on 60 Minutes just this past Sunday night.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 11:03:46 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: MadIvan

OL, if he wanted to be martyred, why did he run away? Do the Dutch have the death penalty? Seems to me they don't.


13 posted on 07/12/2005 11:05:06 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: MadIvan

I suspect that the Dutch ares in for far more of these kinds of murders and had better rethink their lack of a death penalty.


14 posted on 07/12/2005 11:05:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan

Wonderful. The taxpayers will support this trash for the next sixty years. The socialists will clamor for his parole in five. Millions will be spent to fight off a myriad of legal challenges.

Mr van Gogh, a Dutch film-maker, whose name will be forgotten over the next three years, will never recieve justice.

The west simple doesn't have the stones to do what needs to be done anymore. The results are becoming more evident every day.


15 posted on 07/12/2005 11:06:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: MadIvan

Mohammed Bouyeri, Unrepentent Murderer, devotee of Islam


16 posted on 07/12/2005 11:07:07 PM PDT by XR7
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A note was found in his pocket saying that he wanted to become a martyr.

I wish the government had the political will to grant his wish.

17 posted on 07/12/2005 11:07:14 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("What kind of people do they think we are?" - Winston Churchill to Congress, December 1941)
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The taxpayers will be required to provide him with a Koran, Hadith, whatever else, and, a Moslem "chaplain" to boot.
Justice, eh?


18 posted on 07/12/2005 11:08:31 PM PDT by XR7
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To: MadIvan

vrijdag 5 november 2004

Full English translation of letter by Van Gogh murderer
Dan-Cannon has translated the five page note that Van Gogh murderer Mohammed B. pinned to his victims body with a knife. Two remarks regarding Dan's translation. First, he questions his translation of the Dutch word 'leiding', which means either 'leadership' or 'guidance', depending on context. From the context, I agree with Dan's assessment that 'leadership' offers the best approximation. Second, Dan wonders about a passage in which Hirshi Ali is criticized for wanting to screen job applicants for their ideological background. Dan suggests Mohamed B. may be referring to the application of a staying permit or passport, but that isn't the case. His original translation is correct: Hirshi Ali was indeed referring to job interviews.

Press 'Lees verder' to read the entire translation.

OPEN LETTER TO HIRSHI ALI


In the name of Allah the kind, the merciful.

Peace and blessings upon the Emir of the Mujahideen, the laughing killer Mohammed Rasoulou Allah (Sala Allaho alaihie wa Sallam), his family and companions and those who follow him truthfully till the day of judgment.

There is no agression except against the agressors.

The following:

Peace and blessings upon any who follows the Leadership (Dan: could be 'guidance' instead of 'Leadership').

This is an open letter to an infidel fundamentalists, Ayaan Hirshi Ali, of the Thaghoet party VVD.

Dear miss Hirshi Ali,

Since your entrance into the political arena of Holland you have been constantly terrorising Muslims and Islam with your words. You are not the first and you won't be the last to join the crusade against Islam.

With your apostacy, you have not only turned your back on the truth, but you also march along the ranks of the soldiers of evil. You mince no words about your hostility against Islam, and for this your masters have rewarded you with a seat in parliament. They have found in you a companion in their crusade against Islam and Muslims. A companion who gives them the "gunpowder" so they don't have to do the dirty work. Seeing as that you're blind by the burning infidelity which rages inside you, you are incapable of seeing that you are just an instrument of the true enemies of Islam.

U are being used to spew various hostilities about Islam and the most noble, Mohammed Rasoul Allah (Salla Allaho aleihie wa Sallam).

I don't blame you for all of this Miss Hirshi Ali. as a soldier of evil you are merely doing your job.

The fact that you can openly spew your hatred is not to blame on you, but on the Islamic ummah. They have ceased their task of resistance against injustice and is sleeping it off.

All your hostilities can thus only be blamed on the Islamic ummah.

This letter is Insha Allah an attempt at silencing your evil once and for all. These written words will Insha Allah make you drop your mask

I would like to start with your recent proposal to 'screen' (profile) on their ideology at job interviews. (Dan: could maybe be the request for a staying permit/passport)

Your proposal is very interesting, more so because the application of it unveils the rotten faces of your political masters (when they would of course be tested honestly and they would openly reveal their ideology)

It is a fact that Dutch politics is dominated by many Jews who are a product of the Talmud schools; that includes your political party-members.

Seeing as you always propagate "self-criticism", we shall test your proposal in your own political surroundings.

The same politics that with their policies has joined the terrorism against Islam and Muslims.

I would like to ask you the following questions:

How do you feel about the fact that Van Aartsen (leader of the VVD) subscribes to an ideology where non-Jews are considered as non-humans?

Baba Mezie 114a-114b: Only Jews are people ("Only you are called people"). Also see Kerlthoth 6b under subtitle ("Oil of anointing") and Barakath 56a, where gentile (non-Jews) females are called animals ("female-donkeys")

Yebamoth 92a: All Gentile children are animals.

How do you feel about the fact that a mayor is leading Amsterdam, whom subscribes to an ideology where Jews can lie to non-Jews?

Baba Kamma 113a: Jews may lie ("listen") to mislead a Gentile.

How do you feel about the fact that you are part of a government that supports the state with an ideology that proposes genocide?

Sofarim 15, line 10 (Minor Tarcctates): These are the words by rabbi Simom ben Yohai: Tod shebe goyyim herog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed").

Since you are a fighter for equal rights, you will probably (after learning this knowledge) ask with your Jewish masters in chambers to reject the teachings of the Talmud. You will also probably make work of asking the Jewish community in Holland to reject it.

Our actions now and then betrays your cowardly courage (Dan: i have no idea what he means with this contradiction) with which you ask attention for your battle. Like how you had the 'cowardly courage' to ask Islamic children in school to make a choice between their creator and the constitution.

The answer from these young, clean souls you have used immediately to come up with arguments to justify your crusade. With these hostilities you have released a boomerang and you know its only a matter of time before this boomerang will seal your fate.

However, you will get the opportunity, Miss Hirshi Ali, to prove you're right and crave it forever in the pages:

There is one certainty in the whole of existence; and that is that everything comes to an end.

A child born unto this world and fills this universe with its presence in the form of its first life's cries, shall ultimately leave this world with its death cry.

A blade of grass sticking up its head from the dark earth and being caressed by the sunlight and fed by the descending rain, shall ultimately whither and turn to dust.

Death, Miss Hirshi Ali, is the common theme of all that exists. You, me and the rest of creation can not disconnect from this truth.

There shall be a Day where one soul can not help another soul. A Day with terrible tortures and torments. a Day where the injust shall force from their longues horrible screams. Screams, Miss Hirshi Ali, that will cause shivers to roll down one's spine; that will make hairs stand up from heads. People will be seen drunk with fear while they are not drunk. FEAR shall fill the atmosphere on that Great Day:

When the sun is overthrown,

And when the stars fall,

And when the hills are moved,

And when the camels big with young are abandoned,

And when the wild beasts are herded together,

And when the seas rise,

And when souls are reunited,

And when the girl-child that was buried alive is asked

For what sin she was slain,

And when the pages are laid open,

And when the sky is torn away,

And when hell is lighted,

And when the Garden is brought nigh,

(Then) every soul will know what it hath made ready. (81:1-14)

On the day when a man fleeth from his brother

And his mother and his father

And his wife and his children,

Every man that day will have concern enough to make him heedless (of others).

On that day faces will be bright as dawn,

Laughing, rejoicing at good news;

And other faces, on that day, with dust upon them,

Veiled in darkness,

Those are the disbelievers, the wicked. (80:34-42)

(Dan: the killer has actually left out some verses in his letter which i added by looking at the sequence in the Quran. e.g. He left out 80:39-40)

You as unbelieving extremist of course won't believe in the above described scene. For you the above is merely a made-up drama piece from a Book like many. And yet, Miss Hirshi Ali, i'd bet my life to claim that you are sweating with FEAR when you read this.

You, as unbelieving fundamentalist, of course do not believe that a Supreme being controls the entire universe.

You do not believe that your heart, with which you cast away truth, has to ask permission from the Supreme being for every beat.

You do not believe that your tongue with which you deny the Guidance from the Supreme being is subject to his Laws.

You do not believe that life and death has been given you by this Supreme being.

If you really believe this, then the following challenge should be no problem for you.

I challenge you with this letter to prove you are right.

You don't have to do much:

Miss Hirshi Ali: WISH for DEATH if you are really convinced you are right.

If you will not accept this challenge; know then that my master, the Most High, has unmasked you as an injust one.

"then long for death (for ye must long for death) if ye are truthful. But they will never long for it, because of that which their own hands have sent before them. Allah is aware of evil-doers." (2:94-95)

To prevent that i were to be accused of the same, i shall wish this wish FOR you:

My Rabb, give us death to make up happy with martyrdom.

Allahoemma Amien.

Miss Hirshi Ali and the rest of the extremist infidels: Islam has resisted many hostilities and opressions in History. Every time the pressure on Islam was added, the fire of Faith was merely alighted.

Islam is like a whithered plant, which has been rendered by the years-long pressure and extreme high temperatures, a diamond.

A whithered plant which is formed by the fancies of time into the strongest jewel on this Earth. A jewel on which the hardest hammer breaks itself.

AYAAN HIRSHI ALI YOU SHALL BREAK YOURSELF ON ISLAM !

You and your companions know very well that the current Islamic youth is a rough diamond that only needs smoothing, so that it may spread her all-invading light of Truth. Your intellectual terrorism will not stop this, on the contrary you will only hasten it.

Islam will conquer by the blood of the martyrs. It will spread its light to every corner of this Earth and it will, if necessary, drive evil to its dark hole by the sword.

This unleashed battle is different from previous battles. The unbelieving fundamentalists have started it and Insha Allah the true believers will end it.

There shall be no mercy for the unjust, only the sword raised at them. No discussion, no demonstrations, no parades, no petitions; merely DEATH shall separate the Truth from the LIE.

Say: Lo! the death from which ye shrink will surely meet you, and afterward ye will be returned unto the Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, and He will tell you what ye used to do. (62:

And like a great prophet once said:

"I deem thee lost, O Pharaoh. " (17:102)

And so we want to use similar words and send these before us, so that the heavens and the stars will gather this news and spread it over the corners of the universe like a tidal wave.


""I deem thee lost, O America. "


"I deem thee lost, O Europe. "


"I deem thee lost, O Holland. "


"I deem thee lost, O Hirshi Ali


"I deem thee lost, O unbelieving fundamentalist. "


Hasboena Allah wa ni3ma alwakeel

Ni3ma alMawla wa Ni3ma anNasseer

Saifu Deen al Muwahhied

http://www.zachtei.nl/2004/11/05/000430.html#meer


20 posted on 07/12/2005 11:10:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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