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It's Venus vs. Mars for Singles at Weddings (This summer, hide your bridesmaids.)
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, July 12, 2005 | Darragh Worland

Posted on 07/13/2005 12:16:21 AM PDT by rawhide

NEW YORK — This summer, hide your bridesmaids.

So warns the promo for this weekend's new movie, "Wedding Crashers", which is about a couple of bachelors who show up at weddings uninvited to prey on lonely bridesmaids and especially desperate female guests.

The movie cashes in on two common stereotypes about weddings: that women hate attending nuptials alone, and that men, realizing how vulnerable weddings make single women feel, use the occasions to their advantage.

But how are true are these generalizations?

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KEYWORDS: marriage; nuptials; singles; wedding; weddingcrashers
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Well, what do you think? Do you think these generalizations are true? (I believe there may be a lot of truth here.)
1 posted on 07/13/2005 12:16:22 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide


Seems reasonable. Good hunting guys!


2 posted on 07/13/2005 12:18:45 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: rawhide

I thought it was was interesting and funny to read in the article:

"...Women have so much trouble admitting they are single [that] they will bring anyone to a wedding," said dating consultant David Wygant. "They hate to answer this question at a wedding: ''Why is a nice girl like you still single?'

"So to avoid the embarrassment, they end up going with a guy they do not like and hoping to hook up with the hot out-of-town friend they met at the rehearsal dinner," Wygant added.

On the flip side, men aren't likely to bring a guest to a wedding unless they are very serious about someone, both out of fear of sending the wrong message to a starry-eyed date and also to make the most of the opportunity..."


3 posted on 07/13/2005 12:25:01 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
This some guy's fantasy. No, actually, I read that it's what the two writers did in real life...sort of.

Two guys from the N.Y. Post tried it out ( so they could report about it all ) and were almost always thrown out on their ear!

The thing is, when a wedding is run correctly, NO singles, who aren't engaged, or about to be, are allowed to bring a date.

Tables are set with place cards, there are NO extra/empty seats at the wedding breakfast/tea/dinner, so crashers can't stay without being caught.

I saw a few clips from this UNFUNNY movie and there is no way that they could do some of the things they did, without being caught and summarily tossed out on their rears.

4 posted on 07/13/2005 12:27:56 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: rawhide

Sounds about right.

I suspect males don't feel comfortable going alone to these weddings either if they are alone and want to find a wife (female).


5 posted on 07/13/2005 12:28:52 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ncountylee
Have you ever been married ?

It isn't "reasonable" at all.

6 posted on 07/13/2005 12:29:22 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"The thing is, when a wedding is run correctly, NO singles, who aren't engaged, or about to be, are allowed to bring a date."

Really? With permission, I would think it would be okay, correct?


7 posted on 07/13/2005 12:44:36 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

I think it is totally silly. The weddings that I have attended do not promote such encounters. Everyone's attention is on the bride and groom, as it should be. It is, after all, their day.

I have not attended a wedding alone since my husband passed away. I am sure I would feel sad. I miss my husband and my marriage. Also, I would like to fall in love again and get married. However, I have not met any men who want to get married.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 12:47:03 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: nopardons
The thing is, when a wedding is run correctly, NO singles, who aren't engaged, or about to be, are allowed to bring a date.

I've been to plenty of weddings where my RSVP card had a space for if I wanted to bring a guest. Also, some weddings have name cards, and some don't. My fiance and I are planning our wedding right now, and name cards for the tables are one of the last priorities, to be done only if there's nothing else to do.

Also, seeing the trailer != seeing the movie.
9 posted on 07/13/2005 12:48:46 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: rawhide
WRONG!

Asking permission to bring a date, is not only bad manners, in the extreme, but would be rebuffed by most. Unless, of course, it was a rather informal wedding and done on the cheap.

I take it that you have never been married/planned a wedding and have no idea what the correct etiquette is.

10 posted on 07/13/2005 12:50:18 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Quick1
Then you've been to wedding where the correct etiquette was not observed.

Table seatings are usually the one of the LAST things one does, since until everyone has responded, it is IMPOSSIBLE to do.

And it isn't "NAME CARDS", it's place setting cards.

I take it that you're a males and NOT doing much in the way of planning your up coming nuptials. :-)

11 posted on 07/13/2005 12:55:46 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I can understand and agree with you if you are talking only about the wedding reception after the marriage ceremony, but to attend a wedding ceremony in a church, come on now.
I am married and I was involved in the planning. We did not put any restrictions on the church wedding, (come one,come all to share in our joy), but we did limit who was invited to the reception, because of the money involved.


12 posted on 07/13/2005 12:58:13 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Quick1
It wasn't a "trailer", but a 1/2 hour show about the making of this stupid movie.

There is NO possible way, that two crashers, would be invited to an entire FAMILY weekend of activities, by a leading Senator, with presidential designs; let alone allowed to stay for the dinner and dancing. Such events are usually run by wedding planners, who check off invited guest on a list they carry around.

13 posted on 07/13/2005 12:59:13 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Miss Manners, is that you?

Of the last six or seven weddings I've been to recently, only one of them has had a place setting card indicating who sits where. But then again, none of my friends are into big extravagant weddings, with tons of pomp and circumstance, either. Well, except for one, and she had place setting cards. :)


14 posted on 07/13/2005 1:02:34 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: rawhide
But the whole "gimmick" on this movie, is that they attend the wedding AND the cocktail hours and the dinners and the family get togethers.

But yes, just going to a wedding, crashers could do that. And yes, some people ask lots of people to attend the wedding, but DO NOT have them to the rest.

15 posted on 07/13/2005 1:02:41 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Quick1
When there are a number of people attending a wedding,who don't know anyone but the bride, or the groom, it is impolite and crass, to NOT try to seat them with people one thinks that they would have a pleasant time with.

You must go to some very loosey goosey weddings. :-)

16 posted on 07/13/2005 1:05:58 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
But the whole "gimmick" on this movie, is that they attend the wedding AND the cocktail hours and the dinners and the family get togethers.

Meh, that's why it's a movie, and not real life.
17 posted on 07/13/2005 1:06:02 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
Of course it's a movie and NOT real life...except that the two guys who wrote this garbage, claim that they did this.

But I first replied to someone who thought that it was a great idea.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 1:07:48 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You must go to some very loosey goosey weddings. :-)

Pretty much. Most of my friends aren't rich, nor do they have rich families, so things get done on the cheap. My fiance and I are doing ours for under $10k. Lots of stuff is getting handmade by both of us.

Also, I'd rather let everyone find their own seats, next to people THEY think they'll have a good time with. And if not, well, dinner's only an hour or two anyway before the dancing starts.
19 posted on 07/13/2005 1:08:47 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: nopardons
claim that they did this.

They could have done it, it doesn't necessarily mean that they went to the extravagant weddings that the two in the movie are going to. I'm sure there's more than a little exaggeration in the movie, to make it more entertaining.
20 posted on 07/13/2005 1:11:11 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: rawhide

I attended a wedding two weeks ago - I was the only single person there. No single ladies, desperate or otherwise.

Generalisations of this type tend to miss the mark.

Regards, Ivan


21 posted on 07/13/2005 1:12:13 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: nopardons
"You must go to some very loosey goosey weddings"

I think it is wrong of you to put down another person's idea of a wedding, even though it does not come up to your level of proper etiquette. To call someone's wedding 'loosey goosey' is crass on your part, and not proper etiquette!
22 posted on 07/13/2005 1:13:12 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
My daughter got married this past weekend. I'd say the generalizations are pretty correct.

There was one fellow in the wedding party who I felt kinda bad for. He's a geeky/nerdy type...very intelligent...great if somewhat odd sense of humor...good looking...but just can't get a date. He attended alone...started getting real depressed because all his friends are getting married and he's spinning his wheels.

It became especially apparent the wedding night. Seems like htere's this new deal where the ENTIRE wedding party spends the night with the bride and groom at a hotel. Yuppers over a dozen guyz n gurlz in several rooms adjacent to the bridal suite. Pool party, beer in the bathtub...things are a lot different from when Wife and I tied the knot.

Wife and I were there for a couple of hours as well. It was sad watching this fellow try to mingle when everybody else was pairing off. He and I ended up sitting in one of the rooms and watching coverage os hurricane Dennis...at least until I left early Sunday morning.

That said here are a couple of other highlights/things I learned from the wedding...

For a year all I heard around the house was...wedding this...blah-blah-blah...wedding that...blah-blah-blah. I know their speaking but all I hears was blah-blah-blah...hey I'm a guy.

Here are some of the festive weekend highlights...and prove why guys aren't into weddings.

In no particular order...

Ceremony opened with 5 minute stand up comedy routine byt Pastor Greg...actually was kinda cool in a guy kinda way.

Now the best...

Being chased by the State Police Copter during the drug bust...

Being strafed by the USAF Thunderbirds jets 50 feet above the car on the way to the reception...

The dead or dying deer flying in front of my car after a mini van in the next lane hit the animal...late saturday night coming back from the reception.

I also learned...

I don't even OWN a pair of dark socks.

A white and red USA baseball cap is NOT considered appropriate attire with a tux...even OUTSIDE the church.

Now it wasn't a total loss. I've come up with a new and I suspect very lucrative idea. Weddings planned by, organized by and totally run by and for MEN! Picture this No wimink at the church...They'll be off to the side in their own room where they can talk and take tens of thousands of pictures to their heart's delight. Meanwhile Men will gather for the ceremony using pictures or possibly life size cutouts of the bride and the other wimink. Vows can be taped or phoned in.

Preferably taped.

For the reception ...again the wimink can gather in a side room while Men enjoy a couple of big screen HDTV's...a few kegs ...and finger food...preferably fried....deep fried. Only wimink present will be Hooters girls...or similar ...attending to filling the mugs, plates...etcetera. Who knows you >might< find a gal more...ummm...interesting.

prisoner6

23 posted on 07/13/2005 1:15:43 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: Quick1
You and your affianced are rude,then . How will a complete stranger know who to sit next to? Either you care about the people you have invited to share your joy, or you don't. It sounds as though you don't.

Good manners are free. You don't haves to be wealthy to have them. And it doesn't matter how much or how little you're spending; but it DOES matter that you don't care enough to bother about your guests.

Hint...hint...unless you've planned otherwise, your guests will be sitting at table, during the dancing. It is rare for EVERYONE to dance every dance at a wedding.

24 posted on 07/13/2005 1:18:38 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Quick1
I'm certain that there's LOTS of exaggeration in the movie, which looks absolutely dreadful, BTW.
25 posted on 07/13/2005 1:20:06 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: prisoner6
I don't even OWN a pair of dark socks.

A white and red USA baseball cap is NOT considered appropriate attire with a tux...even OUTSIDE the church.


LOL! My dad hates wearing ties. He has at least promised to wear one to mine, although he mumbled something about it "coming off as soon as I'm out the church door!"

I like your idea of a guy's wedding, though. I'll broach the subject to the fiance, and we can take bets on how long I live. :D
26 posted on 07/13/2005 1:21:21 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: rawhide
I wasn't "putting those weddings down". Don't you know what the term "loosey goosey" means? It means what it implies...a wedding or a function without rules.

If I had wanted to be "crass", I would have written something far worse.

And good manners ( which is simply a way of showing others that you care for and about them !), are FREE!

27 posted on 07/13/2005 1:25:44 AM PDT by nopardons
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You and your affianced are rude,then . How will a complete stranger know who to sit next to?

Oh please. There will be no strangers by themselves at our wedding. Everybody knows at least a few people. Also, if you can't at least make polite conversation for an hour, even with people you don't know, you're the rude one. I didn't know anyone at the last wedding I went to, because it was my fiance's friend, whom I didn't really know. I still had a great time.

Hint...hint...unless you've planned otherwise, your guests will be sitting at table, during the dancing. It is rare for EVERYONE to dance every dance at a wedding.

You don't know our families and friends. The only people not dancing will be in their cars and on their way home. If someone needs a break from dancing, they can find a seat near the floor and chat with their friends for a bit.
28 posted on 07/13/2005 1:27:50 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: prisoner6

Have you ever told your wife your idea? LOL


29 posted on 07/13/2005 1:29:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Quick1

You've managed to miss ALL of the points and put your own spin on it. But that's okay...it's no skin off my nose. :-)


30 posted on 07/13/2005 1:32:04 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Wife is NOT amused...was a little miffed when I posted the above account to our high school reunion group the other day.

She'll get over it we've been married...24....26...ummm...27 or more years...I think 28 come some teen something day this August.

Guyz - like me - aren't good at remembering stuff like that.

prisoner6

31 posted on 07/13/2005 1:35:27 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: nopardons; Quick1

You sure like to attack other people, don't you, with your know-it-all attitude?

Quick1, have a great wedding and do not put a lot of stock in what rude people might tell you.


32 posted on 07/13/2005 1:36:22 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: nopardons

I got your point. You say that etiquette demands that "place setting cards" must be used to sit guests at the same table as other guests that know each other. I think that's an idiotic notion that people can't either a) find a seat near people they know and want to talk to or b) make polite conversation with the people at the table if they don't know anyone. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

For the record, we will probably do place setting cards, that is, unless we don't have time to get to it. There are more important things to be done, first.


33 posted on 07/13/2005 1:37:22 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: prisoner6
Wasn't marrying your wife important enough for you, to remember how long you've been married to her, or are you trying to be "cute"?

There's nothing sissy nor wimpy about loving your wife and therefore, there is no need to try to sound like some mannerless slob, when talking about a wedding.

Weddings are one of the very last rites of passage, that civilized man still engages in. It is marker, and a happy one at that, that should fill your heart with joy.

No, most men aren't ever all THAT caught up in the planning; however, they should enjoy the occasion/celebration.

34 posted on 07/13/2005 1:43:49 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: rawhide

Thanks. Weddings are supposed to be about having a big party for everyone.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 1:44:27 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: rawhide

Corrected reply:

nopardons, you sure like to attack other people, don't you, with your know-it-all attitude?

Quick1, have a great wedding and do not put a lot of stock in what rude people might tell you.


36 posted on 07/13/2005 1:46:02 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
If you think that I "attacked" anyone, you don't understand the meaning of that word, nor the word "rude"; which YOU happen to exemplify.
37 posted on 07/13/2005 1:46:03 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Quick1

YIKES...you still haven't got it! I said it was proper to seat people WHO DIDN'T KNOW MANY, OR ANYONE, with people whom they might/hopefully enjoy being with. After all, you do know the people whom you are inviting, so it is easier for you to know whose company they might enjoy.


38 posted on 07/13/2005 1:49:06 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

No, I got your point. Check option b) in my previous post. Goodnight.


39 posted on 07/13/2005 1:53:14 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: nopardons

nopardons, you have been so touchy about this subject ever since it was posted tonight, and you have managed to attack almost everyone's reply (maybe if you go back through the thread, you might be able to catch up with the ones you missed).
Why is that?


40 posted on 07/13/2005 1:55:07 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
ROTFLMSO !

Read the replies...ALL OF THEM; not just mine.

You and I had several CIVIL replies between us, until you decided that I was "attacking"? someone else; which I wasn't doing.

I was explaining how far fetched the premise of this sophomoric, unfunny movie is and why. But this thread has now turned into an Al Bundy sort of guys' trashing weddings thingy.

WHY IS THAT?

41 posted on 07/13/2005 1:59:48 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Sorry, I call them as I read them. With that, I'm through for the night and must go to bed. Have a good night!


42 posted on 07/13/2005 2:02:46 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
I calls 'em as I sees 'em too...and I have better eyesight. ;^)

Good night.

43 posted on 07/13/2005 2:08:28 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Of course it's a movie and NOT real life...except that the two guys who wrote this garbage, claim that they did this.

,,, one of the two didn't end up being the 42nd President of the US, did he?

44 posted on 07/13/2005 2:17:40 AM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel

LOL...sounds Clintonian, doesn't it?


45 posted on 07/13/2005 2:19:06 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

,,, indeed. You know, the one thought I have in mind when I think about this script or concept is "desperate". I know I wouldn't finance a crap movie along these lines. The concept puts the boot into both sexes from the word go. If guys have to turn strategic to the point of targeting weddings to pick up women and we're all to assume there's merit in that, Hollywood has well passed the use-by date. Some might say I'm taking it too seriously, but let's see how it does at the box office. That's the measure.


46 posted on 07/13/2005 2:25:17 AM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Oh, some males might find this movie a hoot, but NO woman would want them anyway and I think that it's really geared to 17-23 year olds anyway.

Naturally, the Senator with presidential aspirations, is made out to be an idiot and one of his daughters is a lunatic.

"LOVERS AND OTHER STRANGERS" is an hysterically funny movie ( and close to 40 years old ), which treats "wedding hookups" in a more realistic and funnier way.

47 posted on 07/13/2005 2:32:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Goodgirlinred
I'm a Justice of the Peace and I have done many weddings. The form is always different with some weddings, usually a younger couple, where there are lots of singles and others, second marriages usually, where there aren't.

I have only done about 5 or 6 since my wife died and I have to tell you that I still stumble over the words, 'til death do us part.

48 posted on 07/13/2005 2:36:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: nopardons
,,, "you'll laugh, you'll cry - you'll kiss twelve bucks goodbye."

I'm way behind on plenty of titles I've been meaning to see. I wanted to see "The Aviator" when it came out and missed it. I'll buy it on DVD and look forward to the time when I can find time to watch it.

49 posted on 07/13/2005 2:38:31 AM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: nopardons

I think it's a disgusting concept of a movie. Besides it looks terrible. Almost as bad as Gigli.


50 posted on 07/13/2005 2:39:58 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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