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breaking news: 17 year old arrested who had explosives
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Posted on 07/13/2005 2:51:36 AM PDT by dutch52

the amsterdam police have arrested a 17 year old boy, in his room the police found a self-made explosive. the boy was arrested in connection with the so called "hofstadgroep", de extremist group which mohammed Bouheri, the murderer of theo van gogh was part of it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: althabaat; bouyeri; explosives; hofstadgroep; hofstadgroup; jihadineurope; netherlands; sexualfrustration; thabaat
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I told you all: Holland is the next target.
1 posted on 07/13/2005 2:51:37 AM PDT by dutch52
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To: dutch52

Thank you Dutch 52 for the info.
Is it possible that you can post a translation of the article you linked to?


3 posted on 07/13/2005 3:00:34 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: dutch52

I have heard of the hofstadgroep.
That's not good news.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 3:01:21 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: dutch52; JohnathanRGalt; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; All
ON THE NET...

ALTAVISTA.com - Search Term: "Hofstadgroep"

Google Search Term: "Hofstad Groep"

5 posted on 07/13/2005 3:04:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: dutch52

Actually, I fear Italy will be targeted next. And I fear the Italians will fold like the Spanish did. It would be tragic if someday the imams took over the Vatican, but don't think it couldn't happen.


6 posted on 07/13/2005 3:06:14 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: dutch52
Round up and expel your entire Moslem population before it's too late.

If the Moslems won't work with the authorities to separate the innocent Moslems from those who would destroy liberal democratic societies, those societies must place their safety first and treat all Moslems as a deadly threat.

7 posted on 07/13/2005 3:08:34 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: dutch52; Alouette; dennisw; Yehuda; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; sheik yerbouty
de extremist group which mohammed Bouheri, the murderer of theo van gogh was part of it.

Behind every bomb is a mohammed.

8 posted on 07/13/2005 3:12:20 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: kittymyrib

bttt


9 posted on 07/13/2005 3:14:31 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Behind every bomb is a mohammed.

You took the words right out of my keyboard...

10 posted on 07/13/2005 3:16:38 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: William Creel

When her ankles are as big as her head.

But, what does Hillary have to do with this?


11 posted on 07/13/2005 3:17:00 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: dutch52; All

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/050712/1/3tfgc.html
Tuesday July 12, 9:51 PM
AFP
"Suspect in Dutch filmmaker's murder makes dramatic court room confession"

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The man accused of killing Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh confessed to a Dutch court that he acted out of his religious beliefs, saying he would do "exactly the same" if he were ever set free.

"I take complete responsibility for my actions. I acted purely in the name of my religion," 27-year-old Dutch-Moroccan national Mohammed Bouyeri told the court in Amsterdam on the final day of his trial."

ARTICLE SNIPPET 2: ""I can assure you that one day, should I be set free, I would do exactly the same, exactly the same," he said, speaking slowly in sometimes halted Dutch.

He said he felt an obligation to Van Gogh's mother Anneke, present in court, to speak, but offered no sympathy.

"I have to admit I do not feel for you, I do not feel your pain, I cannot -- I don't know what it is like to lose a child," he said as Van Gogh's family and friends looked on.

"I cannot feel for you ... because I believe you are an infidel," he added.

"I acted out of conviction -- not because I hated your son."

Van Gogh's mother listened quietly as Bouyeri, wearing a Palestinian black and white headscarf, spoke with a hint of admiration for her son.

"I cannot accuse your son of hypocrisy because he was not a hypocrite. He said things out of conviction," Bouyeri said of Van Gogh."


12 posted on 07/13/2005 3:17:51 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Behind every bomb is a mohammed.

When they read the names of graduates in our Engineering class so they could receive their diplomas, and got to the "M's", it went like this:

"Omar Khalid Mohammed.......
Azul Quesi Mohammed.......
Fustah Mohammed Mohammed.......
Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed."

I kid you not.

13 posted on 07/13/2005 3:18:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot (Eliminate, eradicate, and stamp out redundancy!)
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To: dutch52

Really, good catch and a good post.


14 posted on 07/13/2005 3:18:44 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: dutch52
It's just The Religion of Peacetm again. Nothing to see here.
15 posted on 07/13/2005 3:19:22 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: leadpenny

LOL


16 posted on 07/13/2005 3:19:23 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: dutch52
I told you all: Holland is the next target.

I don't know about next target, but it's certainly one of my favorite candidates for "the first country in Europe that's going to wise up and understand what it's up against." I think change in Europe is going to be like that; first one country, then another will begin to tighten immigration and insist on assimilation.

If you're in the Netherlands, I hope you'll keep us posted on what's going on (and put me on your ping list, if you develop one).

17 posted on 07/13/2005 3:20:45 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: dutch52
Is Holland on heightened security now? Are there precautions being taken, particularly in mass trasnportation areas?

I hope if those scumbags have anything planned for Holland, the Dutch thwart it before the terrorists can pull it off.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 3:21:39 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: dutch52

So how many troops does the Netherlands have in Iraq?


19 posted on 07/13/2005 3:21:49 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: dutch52

These people should be swinging from the lamp-posts across Europe.


20 posted on 07/13/2005 3:27:06 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: kittymyrib
It would be tragic if someday the imams took over the Vatican,............

Yes it would be. The name St. Peter's Mosque just doesn't quite have the same ring to it as St. Peter's Basilica.

21 posted on 07/13/2005 3:34:22 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: prion

"...it's certainly one of my favorite candidates for "the first country in Europe that's going to wise up and understand what it's up against."

The Dutch can really be hard-assed about things, that is for sure. So, we'll see what happens, time will tell.

I for one think it is certainly time to start returning these folks to Dar Al-Islam, if that's how they want to live. Anyone who wants to stay in the West must convert to another religion.

Sr. Bush would not like my idea.


22 posted on 07/13/2005 3:41:01 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

So we should just call them Mobombed?


23 posted on 07/13/2005 3:42:13 AM PDT by rabidralph (Stop surveilling--start arresting!)
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To: varon; kittymyrib

The Muslims sacked Rome about 850 AD, and ruled Sicily from about 900 to 1100 AD.

Contemporary Islamists including OBL pepper their rants with references to retaking Andlusia (Spain). Some lunatic Saudi imam quoted over at memri.org was on a tear about the black flag flying over Rome "again".

They have the delusion that if some Muslim invaded a country, city, or town 1,000 years ago, then it's still "Muslim land."

To wit, the Jerusalem Temple Mount, aka al-Aqsa mosque.


24 posted on 07/13/2005 4:00:01 AM PDT by angkor
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To: highlander_UW
So how many troops does the Netherlands have in Iraq?

Completely irrelevant. The Dutch discriminate against Muslims by not allowing honor killings or murderous acts against Infidels. They refuse to persecute Christians and convert to Islam. To some of the more radical Muslims these are legitimate excuses for acts of terror.
25 posted on 07/13/2005 4:05:48 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: highlander_UW

Let me know the answer to that question....it's a good one!


26 posted on 07/13/2005 4:07:49 AM PDT by Loud Mime (thotline.com)
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To: Cindy
"I cannot feel for you ... because I believe you are an infidel," he [Mohammed Bouyeri] added.
27 posted on 07/13/2005 4:10:12 AM PDT by pyx (Rule #1. The LEFT lies. Rule #2. See Rule #1.)
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To: CatoRenasci
Round up and expel your entire Moslem population before it's too late.

I agree!
My son married a Japanese girl whom I love dearly. I have three half-Japanese grandchildren. Nevertheless, America was right to round up the Japanese during War II... and America was right to pay reparations to the innocent after the war was over.

Now we need to round up the Muslims. Perhaps once the war is over (I doubt that I'll live long enough to see that.) we can make things right for the innocent.

28 posted on 07/13/2005 4:16:40 AM PDT by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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To: CatoRenasci
Round up and expel your entire Moslem population before it's too late.

The media this morning was blaming US foreign policy, with regard to Palestine and Iraq, for the London bombings. They're useful idiots.

29 posted on 07/13/2005 4:16:46 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: pyx

Yep.
It couldn't have been more straightforward than that.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 4:17:33 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
"I take complete responsibility for my actions. I acted purely in the name of my religion," 27-year-old Dutch-Moroccan national Mohammed Bouyeri told the court in Amsterdam on the final day of his trial."

So he's saying that his actions were caused by US foreign policy, right?

31 posted on 07/13/2005 4:18:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: William Creel

Rosie O'Donnel? Give her about ten more pounds.


32 posted on 07/13/2005 4:19:50 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: angkor
They have the delusion that if some Muslim invaded a country, city, or town 1,000 years ago, then it's still "Muslim land."

That's a standard teaching. The Spanish and Italians better wise up quick.

33 posted on 07/13/2005 4:20:40 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: SkyPilot

Around 2002 or 2003, I was having a conversation with an Anglo-Pakistani guy at work, whom I know to be an observant Musselman. We were talking about all the "Moham[m]eds" on the [US Defense] project we were working on. I noted that "Moham[m]ed" was the most popular name in the world. He mentioned, I thought snidely, that Osama was overtaking it. I wished I had thought to say, "Adolf was popular in 1942."


34 posted on 07/13/2005 4:24:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: SkyPilot
"Omar Khalid Mohammed.......
Azul Quesi Mohammed.......
Fustah Mohammed Mohammed.......
Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed."

Eggs and Spam,
Onions, cheese and Spam,
Sausage, kippers, and Spam,
Spam, Spam and Spam!

35 posted on 07/13/2005 4:33:30 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: dutch52

Hello dutch52.

I requested earlier a possible translation of the article you linked to, but forget about it. I found 2 articles in English to go along with your linked article. Thank you for your post and fyi.

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http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19&story_id=21884&name=Amsterdam+teen+arrested+as+self-made+bomb+is+found

"Amsterdam teen arrested as self-made bomb is found"

13 July 2005

AMSTERDAM —

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "News agency ANP reported that his parents are of British and Dutch descent. The youth converted to Islam at the age of 14 and quickly became radicalised.

An initial examination of the device indicated it was "potentially dangerous", a police spokesperson said on Tuesday. It consisted of a cardboard bar filled with gunpowder, small bullets and a detonator."

http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/07/13/afx2135988.html


AFX News Limited
"Dutch police arrest teenager with home-made bomb in Amsterdam"
07.13.2005, 08:03 AM

THE HAGUE (AFX) -ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Hofstad group, a name denoting The Hague, is described by prosecutors as a terrorist organization that planned attacks in the Netherlands and is linked to suspected terrorists arrested in Spain.

'The investigation of the boy revealed that he had been active on the internet for some time under a pseudonym and showed himself a supporter of radical Islamic beliefs. He was the mediator of several (chat groups) that posted threatening texts, images and videos,' prosecutors said."


36 posted on 07/13/2005 4:41:09 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Aquinasfan

Its disgusting to hear our own enemy within spout the muslim party line.


37 posted on 07/13/2005 4:41:17 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: CatoRenasci

I would like to know what percentage of physicians in the US are Moslem.


38 posted on 07/13/2005 4:43:53 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: CatoRenasci

Yes, definitely! Round up every last stinking one of them, including that senator from Illinois, and ship them all back to Iran!


39 posted on 07/13/2005 4:45:11 AM PDT by pctech
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To: dutch52
intersting diction in the title and intro.

Hofstra Groep? Sounds like something that would happen in Amsterdam.

40 posted on 07/13/2005 4:46:37 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: pctech
Yes, definitely! Round up every last stinking one of them, including that senator from Illinois, and ship them all back to Iran!

So it isn't just my skin that "obama" character gets under?

41 posted on 07/13/2005 4:47:49 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: William Creel
"So, when will the dike burst? "

Looks like any minute now...


42 posted on 07/13/2005 4:50:34 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: dutch52

Expel the Islamo-terrorist savages before it's too late.


43 posted on 07/13/2005 4:52:56 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: Cindy
"I have to admit I do not feel for you, I do not feel your pain, I cannot -- I don't know what it is like to lose a child," he said as Van Gogh's family and friends looked on. "I cannot feel for you ... because I believe you are an infidel," he added. "I acted out of conviction -- not because I hated your son."

Nutshell alert! Nutshell alert!

Hey, it's nothing personal, Western World. We just hate you and everything you stand for. It's our solemn duty to wipe you off the face of the earth, despite your "can't we all just get along" rhetoric and multicultural-understanding symposiums. We don't have any qualms about murdering children in their school or blowing up teenagers at shopping malls or exploding ourselves, as long as we kill lots of infidels in the process (Allah be praised). Oh, and none of you is "innocent," down to the tiniest baby. An infidel is an infidel is an infidel. But really, it's nothing personal, 'kay?

44 posted on 07/13/2005 4:58:08 AM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; dutch52; Alouette; dennisw; Yehuda; Lijahsbubbe; sheik yerbouty
Behind every bomb is a mohammed.

And behind every Mohammed is a Fatima.

45 posted on 07/13/2005 5:02:48 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Cindy
""I can assure you that one day, should I be set free, I would do exactly the same, exactly the same," he said, speaking slowly in sometimes halted Dutch.

He said he felt an obligation to Van Gogh's mother Anneke, present in court, to speak, but offered no sympathy.

"I have to admit I do not feel for you, I do not feel your pain, I cannot -- I don't know what it is like to lose a child," he said as Van Gogh's family and friends looked on.

"I cannot feel for you ... because I believe you are an infidel," he added.

"I acted out of conviction -- not because I hated your son."

What else do we need to know? That about says it all and about all of them. Except of course the leaders. They just agitate the stupid so they can sit back and enjoy the perks.

46 posted on 07/13/2005 5:03:29 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: CatoRenasci
"Round up and expel your entire Moslem population before it's too late."

That applies to the US as well. Won't ever happen, though. We'll just keep letting them build mosques and let their kids in public schools have prayer rugs and generally bend over backwards to give them what they want in the name of "tolerance".
47 posted on 07/13/2005 5:17:21 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: dutch52
da hanga da littile basturde
48 posted on 07/13/2005 5:54:10 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: kittymyrib

"And I fear the Italians will fold like the Spanish did."

The major reason the conservative Spanish govt. lost the election was not because Spaniards folded to Muslim terrorism. the major reason was because after the train bombings, the govt. lied to them when they blamed the terrorism on ETA instead of Muslims.

You lie to people, they get angry. That is why they lost, not because the majority of Spaniards are cowards. The majority of Italians aren't cowards either.


49 posted on 07/13/2005 7:04:23 AM PDT by monday
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To: CatoRenasci

A very good point. They must now choose which side to be on. There will be consequences.


50 posted on 07/13/2005 7:22:58 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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