CFR's Plan to Integrate US, Canada, Mexico (Americans Being Betrayed)

Eagle Forum ^ | July 13, 2005 | Phylls Schlafly

[Dr.Zoidberg]

That entirely depends upon your definition of the letter R.

[Nowhere Man]

I think people just don't know what to do anymore. We're all frogs in the kettle. Look at the smack down delivered to the militia movement. Were they all crackpots, or did someone just want us sheep to think they were? What could we conceivably do, if say martial law was imposed on this country? Where do you run? How do you keep your possesions safe? Your family? Face it, if you stand up, they'll shoot. I agree with what you're saying, but is it too late to turn it around?

I remember listening to a lot of this stuff in the 1980's and 1990's via shortwave and shows like Chuck Harder and so on, heck, I still hear the same thing over George Noory last night. I do tend to believe that a lot of New World Order theories are overblown but there are a lot of elements of truth in them to where there are movers and shakers out there that want to control or at least influence things to their benefit while people like us tend to get screwed. I do think one day though, their plans will fail, maybe I'm a fatalist or nihilist here, but I do think if we are on our present path, civilization as we know it will collapse either through atrophy or through an atomic war. My father has been telling me this since about 1973.

I don't know what to think, I try not to use a lot of name calling, but I'll be blunt and to the point, there are the "free-traitors" who fail to see beyond making a buck to where they wouls sell out our jobs, security, sovereignty and in the end, our soul out. I do see them as being more unAmerican and dangerous than even Michael Moore and his pack of lefties. I despise the Barking Moonbats, don't get me wrong, but at least they are more honest about it, I guess it is better to get stabbed in the front than in the back, I dunno. Still the free traders fail to see that it will eventually backfire when our standard of living goes down with a lot of our jobs, people will need some sort of alternate means to survive and that means more welfare. I have nothing against a safety net as long as it is used to promote accountibility and responsibility, i.e., a hand up not a hand out, but nautre abhores a vacuum and something will have to rush in to fill the void of a wreck economy and lack of good jobs. Weh ave ap roblem with morals on both sides of the issue, on one hand, you have the free-trade "money is god" crowd and the other hand where "government is god/father" crowd, both sides are wrong. I just think we need to put things in proper perspective and accept that God wants us to live to His teachings and use them to our descretion in life and so on.

That is unless there is another alternative to people who are out of work and seen as useless, that will be the way to "decrease the surplus population" as Scrooge said in Dickens' "A Christmas Carol." There is scuttlebutt that their idea of a worldwide population is 500 million, wheareas we have 6 billion and some change right now. When you do the math, it ain't pretty. As time goes on, I think the tin-foilers do have a point, maybe some of their theories are too "Rube Goldberg" to where if you take out one thing, it does fall, but I do think they have the gist of what is really going on as to their agenda.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Perkins spent the 1970s working as an economic planner for an international consulting firm, a job that took him to exotic locales like Indonesia and Panama, helping wealthy corporations exploit developing nations as, he claims, a not entirely unwitting front for the National Security Agency. He says he was trained early in his career by a glamorous older woman as one of many "economic hit men" advancing the cause of corporate hegemony.

Pamela Harriman?

I saved the page to my favorites. There are so many books out there that I would love to read. This book sounds great. I used to read a lot of Robert Ludlum, and John Le Carre. Truth is stranger than fiction.

While I thought readers would welcome this information for all of the right reasons, I was dead wrong. The responses I received constituted “Shock and Awe” hate email. I was called things that I have not been called before. Then a nationally syndicated conservative Christian radio host called me a “Bush Basher.” I have not been on his show since. By the way, I am a registered Republican and voted for Bush in 2002.

Joan wrote this in her article about a coming VAT. Boy, that sounds familiar :/ This is a great website.

Thanks for the links. Very informative.

[Tlaloc]

Yes, we are now known as "The Conspirators Formerly Known as The Illuminati"

[Dr.Zoidberg]

LOL!

[Freebird Forever]

Still the free traders fail to see that it will eventually backfire when our standard of living goes down with a lot of our jobs,

No they don't. At least the engineers of the plan don't.

Austerity is their plan. A well educated, financially secure, upwardly mobile middle class is a threat to the elite. As such, educational standards have fallen, consumer debt is at record levels, and most families (if they're even still intact) are busting their humps to remain where they are.

This isn't happening just by chance.

Their goal is for a permanent underclass, a proletariat if you will, which possesses no ability to threaten or enter into the upper crust.

If they ever succeed in eliminating private ownership of firearms and ammunition, it's completely over for the middle class.

Keep your eyes open for some contrived "terrorist act" which will serve as the catalyst for just such a confiscation.

[Freebird Forever]

Pamela Harriman?

The author never revealed who the woman was.

But she was eminently qualified to initiate him into the fold.

[Nowhere Man]

What I mean is eventually it will collapse in some form, maybe we may not live to see it, I'm talking about the long run although I could see them succeeding in the short run. I see it like the story in the Bible where Emperor Nimrod was building the Tower of Babel, I see this New World Order much like a 20th or 21st Century version of it. Also, if you're enclined to believe stories like Atlantis, the people who ran Atlantis got so arrogant they destroyed themselves. In the short to medium run, they will be causing a lot of Hell in the meantime, but there will be something that will give them the total smackdown. Like Hitler and many others of that ilk, they will bite off more they can chew and something will come along, bad luck, overplaying their hand, God perhaps. Perhaps once they consolidate power factions will develop and fighting will develop and things will atrophy or blow up. It can happen a lot of ways.

Still though, I do believe if they get their way, you are correct in the short to medium run but we must still do the right thing and fight for what is right. A lot of innocent people will get hurt though and that is what pains me the most. I think one of the first things we need to do is stop these stupid free-trade bills and cut back the Patriot Act when it is up for renewel. I can see some elements like profiling and so on, but it goes too far when they snoop in library records and the like.

[Fiji Hill]

I think we both agree that Tancredo has no chance of becoming president. He doesn't dare run, because if he does, the CFR black helicopters will be on their way.

[PGalt]

BTTT

[Tax-chick]

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[Designer]

"..definition of the letter R.."

Oh, right. Even if we were one, and I'm not saying we are, we wouldn't admit it. See? The Clinton legacy lives on!

[Final Authority]

No; I thought the black helicopters were for scaring the people living in the flyover states into submission when the new world order troops set up bases in which to control out thoughts and actions looking down the barrel of a gun.

I think for Tancredo, a simple plane crash would do.

[Final Authority]

The fastest growth industry in the USA now is the small business, usually one person, a professional engineer, accountant, programmer, etc or even a person with a truck and a mower, who was working for some fortune 500 company with vacation and tons of paid benefits where the mom could stay home and care for children and make the home but since the layoffs we have had to find work, often going back to the company who fired us to work as a consultant at a higher hourly rate but without and benefits. I was going to say, without any security but since I have been on my own I have never been fired because if I was fired I would be firing myself.

BTW, as this industry of small businesses grows further, it becomes harder for the government to collect all the taxes owed besides the government never meant to allow a large number of workers to be able to file for so many business deductions thereby lowering ones tax rate effectively. I think this will force the government to dump portions of the income tax code and add an additional tax by way of a national sales tax and/or a VAT (value added tax). The purposes of this would be threefold, one, to add revenue by way of taxing the criminal aliens when they spend money. Two, collect a percentage lost when individuals who have filed deductions become more a part of the economy. And three, collect taxes on the Boomer generation who are retiring and have investments and retirement accounts that otherwise would not be taxed by way of the income tax code presently but would be taxed with a national retail sale tax (NRST) when they spend it. Why? Because congress needs our money.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Indeed brother, some things are better left unspoken.

[CDHart]

"Good ole john birch society "

I have to say one thing for the JBS, though. They were right about the UN all along, well before anyone else had courage enough to say it.

Carolyn

[CDHart]

"GWB should rot in hell for eternity if he agreed to this."

Don't forget that it was his father who first used the phrase "new world order" publicly (aside from the tinfoil hat bunch, anyway).

Carolyn

[chris1]

The GOP and GWB waterboys simply amaze me. They would sell our country out just as fast as the RATS so long as GWB and the GOP told them it was good for them.

This CAFTA deal is really a blow to any future immigration enforcement, and was probably intended as such.

All I know is that things definately are going in the wrong direction as far as soverignty and freedom are concerned.

Freedom for Iraqis, chains for U.S. taxpayers.

[CDHart]

"All I know is that things definately are going in the wrong direction as far as soverignty and freedom are concerned. "

Truer words were never spoken -- I find it frightening that most people don't even see it. If Clinton had done what this administraton has done, there'd be a militia on every street corner.

Carolyn

[Iron Matron]

Good post. Thanks.

Tax Reform and Social Security Reform is badly needed, yet, I do not trust this particular administration to do it.

I remember how they got drilling in ANWR (which I support) passed..it was tacked onto a bill dealing with National Security issues and taken out of the Energy Bill.

I know that the Bush Administration desires, and is willing, to providing illegals with Social Security. So S.S. Reform would be the perfect vehicle for him to sneak in benefits for illegals. Therefore, I do not support Social Security Reform at this time, with this President.

Same with tax reform. National Sales Tax, Flat Taxes, Value Added Taxes, These can rise and fall at any Congressional whim. Maybe they'd start with 10% National Sales..that'd be 13% in a year, 14% in 5 years, 25% by the time 10 years go by..this Government wants to support Mexico and South America on the backs of Taxpayers. I believe they will do any under-handed deal necessary to make it so.

So, call me a cynic...