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CFR's Plan to Integrate US, Canada, Mexico (Americans Being Betrayed)
Eagle Forum ^ | July 13, 2005 | Phylls Schlafly

Posted on 07/13/2005 5:03:35 AM PDT by Lindykim

CFR's Plan to Integrate the U.S., Mexico and Canada by Phyllis Schlafly, July 13, 2005

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what's really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

"Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada. "Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people."

The CFR document lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals."

This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details. It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.

A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership."

The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.

Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico."

The document's frequent references to "security" are just a cover for the real objectives. The document's "security cooperation" includes the registration of ballistics and explosives, while Canada specifically refused to cooperate with our Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).

To no one's surprise, the CFR plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. The burden on the U.S. taxpayers will include so-called "multilateral development" from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, "long-term loans in pesos," and a North American Investment Fund to send U.S. private capital to Mexico.

The experience of the European Union and the World Trade Organization makes it clear that a common market requires a court system, so the CFR document calls for "a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution." Get ready for decisions from non-American judges who make up their rules ad hoc and probably hate the United States anyway.

The CFR document calls for allowing Mexican trucks "unlimited access" to the United States, including the hauling of local loads between U.S. cities. The CFR document calls for adopting a "tested once" principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards.

The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system.

Here's another handout included in the plan. U.S. taxpayers are supposed to create a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges.

To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . . along the lines of the Bilderberg" conferences.

The best known Americans who participated in the CFR Task Force that wrote this document are former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and Bill Clinton's immigration chief Doris Meissner. Another participant, American University Professor Robert Pastor, presented the CFR plan at a friendly hearing of Senator Richard Lugar's Foreign Relations Committee on June 9.

Ask your Senators and Representatives which side they are on: the CFR's integrated North American Community or U.S. sovereignty guarded by our own borders.

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To: Dog Gone

See the links I posted above. Read on, MacDuff!


51 posted on 07/13/2005 7:51:40 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

I made a direct link to the public document above, so the ones who scream "tinfoil hatters" won't have any excuses....


52 posted on 07/13/2005 7:53:34 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Final Authority
No man or woman will ever be President without being vetted in advance by the CFR.

Makes you kind of wonder what the CFR thinks about Hillary. They were big on Bill....

53 posted on 07/13/2005 7:54:31 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Notice there is no concern on the part of the CFR that the next president may not go along with the plan, even though it's not scheduled for completion until 2010.

They know that the next one, whoever it is, will be one of them and not one of us.


54 posted on 07/13/2005 7:54:46 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

They'll just hide and refuse to answer.


55 posted on 07/13/2005 7:55:27 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: B4Ranch

"Just what is left in the Communist Manifesto that we haven't done yet? Property rights are gone, the queers are living high, guns are going, we are sharing all the latest hi-tech designs with our enemies, the Constitution is a wet rag today, we are supporting the Muslims as best we can, we're supporting everything the UN Charter says to. What more can us infidels do to kill freedom and individual liberty?"

I hope there will be at least a few of us that will fight to the end.


56 posted on 07/13/2005 8:11:16 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
They'll just hide and refuse to answer.

Apparently so. The crickets are now chirping....

57 posted on 07/13/2005 8:19:17 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: antisocial

How many fingers do you have? 10 I presume. 1 out of ten?

No, 10% of the American population is not now willing to fight for freedom and individual liberty. I don't think there ever will be because us old patriots are dying off a helluva lot faster than we're being replaced. The generation behind us think the dollar is more important than freedom. 80 some percent of FReepers think safety is more important than their individual freedoms.

(go back thru the FR polls and you'll get the actual number)


58 posted on 07/13/2005 8:19:54 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Hillary won't make it past the primaries, IMO.


59 posted on 07/13/2005 8:21:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: F16Fighter

Considering the breeding rates of the various parties involved in this "integration" scheme, I'd estimate the North American continent will be fully Mexicanized by 2050, and the culture that founded and built the greastest nation in the history of the world will be all but extinguished.


60 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:21 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: B4Ranch

From your typing fingers to God's ears!


61 posted on 07/13/2005 8:26:23 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: B4Ranch

Look at the membership of the CFR and tell me she doesn't have a chance.

All of the final candidates will be of their choosing, unless there is a patriotic third party run and they will crush that for sure.

Don't be fooled by W standly briefly on his hind legs for a while there. He's got his orders and he'll do what he's told, same as the rest of them.


62 posted on 07/13/2005 8:39:37 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: chris1
The writing is on the wall. GWB should rot in hell for eternity if he agreed to this.

I can't think of one thing he HASN'T agreed to, no matter how liberal the agenda.

63 posted on 07/13/2005 8:53:30 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Dat Mon
Good post, Mon.

.....it doesn't allow the traditional Constitution based government that was established by the founding fathers to survive in its present form.

It'll be interesting to see how this "North American Community" will recognize the individual right to keep and bear arms. As of right now the one-worlders/gun-grabbers have a big problem -- firearms laws are actually being relaxed in most states, and more Americans than at any time in recent history are securing CCW licenses, fully aware of their 2nd Amendment rights.

A society like the one the CFR goons envision cannot function as intended with a bunch of "vigilante" types running around with "Liberty's teeth" packed on their person. ......And if they think they have a chance in hell of taking away our guns without suffering the consequences individually, their delusions would be dashed in short order.

64 posted on 07/13/2005 8:55:10 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: janetgreen
I can't think of one thing he HASN'T agreed to

The vetoless wonder. .....a liberal spender on steroids.

65 posted on 07/13/2005 8:56:33 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Final Authority
Perot never had a shot, neither will Tancredo, unfortunately, because they wanted America first, not elitism, and not One World Government.

I wholeheartedly disagree. Ross Perot and Tom Tancredo have been kept out of the White House by their own shortcomings and not some CFR "vetting" process.

As for Perot, I don't believe Perot actually wanted to be president. He seemed to have a good shot at the office before he quit in the summer of 1992. By election day, he had been discredited by his own antics.

Before Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo) can be considered a serious candidate for the White House, he needs to first enter the big leagues--win a Senate seat, a governor's chair, or a Cabinet position. It's tough to run for president from the House--as Jack Kemp, Bob Dornan, and Dick Gebhardt, and others have learned.

The CFR may be an influential think tank that leans liberal, but it's not all-powerful. These days, the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and other such think tanks are giving it a run for its money.

66 posted on 07/13/2005 8:58:55 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

... The CFR may be an influential think tank that leans liberal, but it's not all-powerful. These days, the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and other such think tanks are giving it a run for its money....

Great, a National Championship of Treason.

By the way, the CFR plan has already gotten the approval.


67 posted on 07/13/2005 9:01:36 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Lindykim
Tea party" anyone?

If We the People, come tax time, refuse to continue financing a Government that subverts our constitution this way, perhaps we could get this Nation cleaned up, they'd have to listen or go bankrupt.

There is only one other solution. I'd place bets though, that the largest part of our people would rather sit on their fat butts and pretend our Sovereignty is not being threatened, that nothing interferes with their perfect little lives...than to tell the tyrants within our own government to CEASE AND DESISTS..or else.

68 posted on 07/13/2005 9:05:11 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: Fiji Hill
These days, the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and other such think tanks are giving it a run for its money.

As far as getting on TV news shows, maybe, or holding events where they can schmooze with politicians and get C-SPAN coverage.

There is one significant difference, though. Anyone can "join" the Heritage Foundation by sending them a check. As I understand it, one has to be invited to join the CFR, and only an elite few are so invited. (Someone posted a membership list a few years ago, but I wouldn't know where to find it. Anybody know?)

69 posted on 07/13/2005 9:10:43 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

It seems to have gone missing.

I wonder why.


70 posted on 07/13/2005 9:13:17 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Lindykim
Robert Pastor is a fellow for the CFR, I think.

A North American Community
A Modest Proposal To the Trilateral Commission
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
November 1-2, 2002
DR. ROBERT A. PASTOR


The North American Commission should develop an integrated continental plan for transportation and infrastructure. Each country should harmonize its own standards on weight, safety, and configuration of trucking and then negotiate a single set of North American standards (with some variations based on weather and terrain). Second, the governments should eliminate “cabotage” restrictions and the “drayage” system, which are notorious feather-bedding schemes. Third, the governments should plan and finance new highway corridors on the Pacific Coast and into Mexico. Fourth, the regulatory agencies should negotiate a plan that would permit mergers of the railroads and development of high-speed rail corridors.

Well the rail consolidation is happening and the trans-texas corridor is happening.

"Smart border" strategies will be helpful, but more could be done. The duplication of documents that comes with crossing the border could be simplified and reduced by half by establishing a single “North American Customs and Immigration Service.” This agency would be composed of officials from the three governments, trained together in a North American professional school. The service should be used on the borders and on the periphery. An additional step that would do much to foster integration and eliminate impediments at the border would be to negotiate a Customs Union and a Common External Tariff. That would eliminate the elaborate and complex rules of origin. Finally, our three governments could learn from the European Union's efforts to establish 10-15 EU Centers in the United States. These Centers stimulate research and awareness in the United States of the EU. Our three governments should sponsor Centers for North American Studies in each of our countries to help the people of all three understand the problems and the potential of North America and begin to think of themselves as North Americans.

This truly is sedition.


Dr. Pastor has been a foreign policy advisor to each of the Democratic Presidential Candidates since 1976 and was Co-Chair of the Advisory Committee on the Americas for the Gore-Lieberman campaign. President Bill Clinton nominated him to be Ambassador to Panama, and he served as the Senior Advisor to the Carter-Nunn-Powell Mission to restore constitutional government in Haiti in 1994.
71 posted on 07/13/2005 9:14:39 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Lindykim

Here is what Concordia University thinks are the road blocks to total integration:

Challenges to regional integration in North America:

--greater inequality in size and power of countries (which implies the US must lose power to Mexico and Canada to equalize)

--greater income inequality (which implies that the US must lose wages in order to equalize)

--no major war; external threat underlying NAFTA (except maybe the "war on terror" and the "need" for continental security)

--US tradition of unilateralism (which means massive social engineering must take place to replace the idea of individual rights with "community rights". Happening in schools, universities and smart growth housing developments all over the nation)


72 posted on 07/13/2005 9:18:14 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

No candidate should ever by nominated for public office or government job that has any relationship whatsoever with the CFR, IMO.


73 posted on 07/13/2005 9:19:56 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: bennowens
I've played Risk hundreds if not thousands of times, on the board and computer. One thing I do know is that there are no real life consiquences when you screw up the game. Meanwhile in life the same cannot be said.

Also, whether in real life or a board game, one thing remains constant, smaller boarders are easier to protect.

Lastly, if we view the entire North American continent is viewed as one entire area to protect, who do we trust to protect it? Do you propose that we integrate our military with a Keystone Cop military of Mexico? What about Canada? There government regularly displays contempt for us and our ideals, would you have us integrate with them?

One more lastly, who really benefits from this? Granted our industry gets cheap labor, but in the long run, the burden is put upon the entire US tax payers, as it is OUR military that will be proping up Canada and Mexico. It will be OUR economy that will drive the economies of Canada and Mexico. It will be OUR taxpayers that will pay the taxes for all the social programs in Canada and Mexico.

24 kt gold is considered the purest MOST VALUABLE gold. Lesser kt wght is contaminated with other impurities, therefore LESS VALUABLE. Mixing in Canada and Mexico with the United States, is nothing more than diluting our strength, our economy, our values, and our overall worth. In essence, it dilutes everything that makes the United States THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH.

74 posted on 07/13/2005 9:20:13 AM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: Dog Gone

I read a lot about CAFTA. You most likely have not. If GWB agreed to this, he basically has given up what hundreds of thousands of UNITED STATES CITZENS have died and sacrificed for.

Its not harsh at all if what the document seems to read is carried out and implemented. USA will no longer exist as we know it, even remotely.


75 posted on 07/13/2005 9:29:04 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: mountn man

It will be OUR taxpayers that will pay the taxes for all the social programs in Canada and Mexico.


A Massive Refusal to pay taxes would be in order. Or dare I say civil war to end the tyranny? Both, I believe would be appropriate under the Constitution. We are, We the People, after all...why are we taking this treasonous stuff from the government?


76 posted on 07/13/2005 9:30:23 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: chris1

I've actually read the agreement, although I skipped most of the tariff schedules.


77 posted on 07/13/2005 9:31:58 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dat Mon; Jeff Head

The true tragedy of "open borders" and the mass psychosis of Western "flat worldism" is that there are nations out there who have no intention whatever to truly become integrated into such a model, and are only using it to get the West to weaken our traditional illiberal supports of our systems. Once we have done that, we'll get sucker punched then conquered by the sort of "world order" that idiotic liberal intellectuals in both the business community and the public sector believe they can tame using global commerce. Specifically, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, aka the Fourth Reich - is preparing for great war and global conquest while we twiddle our thumbs and dream of Starbucks in Xiamen.


78 posted on 07/13/2005 9:36:52 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

"I prefer Xenophobe, since Xenophon was a great man and a brilliant leader. "

"The March of the Ten thousand", great book. The Greeks thought the Afghani's were insane. Not much has changed.


79 posted on 07/13/2005 9:39:30 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: GOP_1900AD

I wish you were wrong, but you are absolutely correct.


80 posted on 07/13/2005 9:39:37 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Dog Gone

This plan is so bad for our country I can not even begin to describe chaos it will cause.


81 posted on 07/13/2005 9:41:27 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

"To accept this as true, which it is, the Bushbots have to admit their world is a fantasy and their demigod ruler is a traitor, just like Kerry and Albore."

I don't think it will matter soon. Al-Queada (sp?) will detonate the suitcase nukes they've smuggled over the southern border and that will be the end of our experiment in Republican government. Of course our leaders will be safe in their new bunkers.


82 posted on 07/13/2005 9:42:20 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: logician2u; the gillman@blacklagoon.com
(Someone posted a membership list a few years ago, but I wouldn't know where to find it. Anybody know?)

I'm not sure how current this is, but here's a link to their membership list .

It's great to see so many posters finally getting their minds wrapped around this. Those of us who read

Quigley's Tragedy and Hope

Skousen's The Naked Capitalist

and Engdahl's A Century of War

saw this coming a long time ago.

83 posted on 07/13/2005 9:45:46 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (abolish islam)
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To: dljordan

...Of course our leaders will be safe in their new bunkers...

I think that's the part that pisses me off the most.

You know a big attack will only help them cram this Community up our butts.


84 posted on 07/13/2005 9:45:47 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
No candidate should ever by nominated for public office or government job that has any relationship whatsoever with the CFR, IMO.

I'll be sure to ping you for back up the next time a Condi '08 thread gets posted.

85 posted on 07/13/2005 9:49:02 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (abolish islam)
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To: Freebird Forever

Ol Newt Gingrich, too.

Some keep putting his name forward.

I think that list is old, but still full of tragic surprises.


86 posted on 07/13/2005 9:52:26 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

The picture I have is she'll have to be approved by the Bilderberger group, the FRC and the CFR. They will select her Cabinet and I don't think she is that steerable.

The woman, notice I did not say lady!, is too independent for that kind of life. I can't imagine her taking orders from other men. She just doesn't seem to be someone who will search for guidance, from the Lord or any other man.

Her relationship with Bill seems to be sitting in a cesspool, so I don't think she'll listen to what he has to say. I could be wrong but at this point I don't think so.

Can you just imagine her wanting to know about a particular black project only to find that she can't get the access clearances? She would blow the dome off of the White House cussing everyone in the military industrial complex.

Then there is the problem of her disrespect for the military. That is a biggy! No matter what talents she has, a DeepThroat she ain't when it comes to the senior staffers at the Pentagon. She'd have to spend 15 days out of 30 on her knees just to get an accurate SITREP.

Just the idea of a Marine saluting her with crossed fingers bring a good laugh to my desk.


87 posted on 07/13/2005 9:54:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Wrap your Kelvar vest around your waist.


88 posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Freebird Forever

3206. RICE CONDOLEEZZA,CFR '92, 1988 annual rpt ,,TC '92
CLASS OF 92.



DICK CHENEY TOO!


89 posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:29 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Freebird Forever

Leiberman and Richard Lugar are on the list too. Connecticut and Indiana, in next election for these guy should find other candidates.


90 posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:32 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: tessalu
The people of the USA are being betrayed as a bunch of "fools".

You bet, some of these so-called Americans make Benedict Arnold look patriotic.

91 posted on 07/13/2005 9:59:43 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: B4Ranch

If they were dumb enough to let the Evil ascend to the throne she would have them all rounded up and liquidated in order to sieze total power.


Hmm, Hillary for president?


92 posted on 07/13/2005 10:00:10 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: GOP_1900AD

YOU SAID..."Once we have done that, we'll get sucker punched then conquered by the sort of "world order" that idiotic liberal intellectuals in both the business community and the public sector believe they can tame using global commerce."

YES.

What was established in this country 200 years ago (putting aside the issue of slavery) was a balanced, ordered Capitalistic system which guaranteed maximum freedom and opportunity for individuals.

Many individuals operated within this Capitalistic system and realized their hopes and dreams...whether native born or immigrant. Many became wealthy beyond their wildest dreams.

You cant do much better than that.

Now...some people are greedy...they want yet MORE freedom and opportunity, gotten through an open borders system....basically to make unencumbered international business deals, and trade in cheap labor...and to make yet more money within a bloated government heavy system which has become burdened with a huge monstrosity of a tax code with lots of special interest loopholes.

But dont reform the system we have now in this country...to get back to that idea of freedom we once had....its too hard.

Instead...push for a European intellectual socialist style borderless society to provide yet more freedom...for some...for that 'ultimate deal'...but there is no more freedom...without a price...a price which somebody other than the guy making the deal ends up paying.


93 posted on 07/13/2005 10:10:38 AM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Lindykim
A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

"Tea party" anyone?

Your comment is more appropriate than many imagine.

The CFR is merely an American offshoot of the Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA), a limey organization brought to life from the Cecil Rhodes Trust money.

Anglophile American traitors brought the RIIA agenda to the US and founded the CFR.

They've been championing policies which steal American sovereignty ever since.

94 posted on 07/13/2005 10:14:56 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (abolish islam)
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To: Dat Mon
A reporter on Fox news Dayside just said, the explosives for the london bombing came from Kosovo. Once it was smuggled into the EU, it could cross borders without scrutiney. She also said that France is asking to institute border controls

Is the NWO starting to unravel, or are things going to get much much worse?

How can we get our CAFTA voting congress to understand that FRANCE wants to close her borders! Because the threat of terrorism is TOO GREAT under their rotten globalist system! Don't they understand it CAN and WILL happen here too?
95 posted on 07/13/2005 10:18:57 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Dat Mon
was a balanced, ordered Capitalistic system

It was actually a "free enterprise" system.
96 posted on 07/13/2005 10:20:01 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Iron Matron

"A Massive Refusal to pay taxes would be in order"

That's not going to be easy since they garnish your wages. Small busniness owners could make a dent though if they refused to pay SS, Workers Comp, sales taxes, etc. There are other taxes and they are substantial which we could also withold, such as property and school taxes. I could see this happening IF enough people were simultaneously fed up of having their backs broken.

"Or dare I say civil war to end the tyranny? Both, I believe would be appropriate under the Constitution. We are, We the People, after all...why are we taking this treasonous stuff from the government"?

It may come to that as well. It won't look much like the last Civil War where the country was divided between north and south however. If a large enough number of citizens decide to fight, then it could be won and rather handily. That's why we keep seeing anti 2nd Amendment laws pushed on us. The ultimate goal is to disarm us so that the above scenario could not be played out.

I'm beginning to believe that if neither of the above scenarios ever come to pass because the people do not stand together, we can kiss this country goodbye and say hello to world wide socialism.





97 posted on 07/13/2005 10:22:52 AM PDT by planekT (The Supreme Can of Worms.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Calpernia; Cindy

Ping


98 posted on 07/13/2005 10:24:59 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: planekT; Travis McGee

It will look a lot like the book, Enemies, Foreign and Domestic.


99 posted on 07/13/2005 10:27:42 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Lindykim
This would all be very different if we could go to Canada and Mexico and buy land and start a business without Government interference and regulation. It may be different if we could go to Mexico and know they have cleaned up their corrupt, despotic and violent ways enough to provide "opportunity" for all. But this is not the case. This is a mere economic platform that only involves the decision making by a select few.

The problem I see is this and goes for me to, Most FReepers, True Conservatives, Classic Liberals and American Patriots think philosophically about our principles and Constitution. We desire a limited role of Government to protect our freedoms, rights and liberties not dispense the new version of them. Unfortunately, maybe inevitably, our Government has been dragged into a predominately economic role with economic interests overriding the principles of Government. These Agreements and treaties such as LOST are nothing more than economically powerful people doing what they do, which is fine as long as it's through free markets and not Government markets.

Whether you want call it conspiracy or not the fact remains that our principles are being sold out both within and without to a global economic system whose rules and regulations are written and controlled by a very few in large part because most of the world recognizes and wants the elites to rule or just simply doesn't understand what Liberty American style means or is willing to sell that Liberty for a few promises which if necessary could be taken away at any time.

100 posted on 07/13/2005 10:29:55 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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