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Novak: Plame Source 'No Partisan Gunslinger'
NewsMax.com ^ | July 12, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/13/2005 6:12:29 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

The Washington press corps and their Democratic friends have been too busy this week chasing down Karl Rove to notice that columnist Robert Novak has offered a tantalizing clue about the identity of just who it was who leaked Valerie Plame's name to him back in July 2003.

And judging from Novak's revelation - it wasn't Karl Rove.

Apparently it's been a while since any of the big media's newshounds bothered to read Novak's follow-up column on the Plame case on Oct. 1, 2003, where he talked about the man (woman?) who spilled Plame's name and thereby, according to Dems, committed the crime of the century.

"During a long conversation with a senior administration official," he wrote, "I asked why Wilson was assigned the mission to Niger. He said Wilson had been sent by the CIA's counterproliferation section at the suggestion of one of its employees, his wife. It was an offhand revelation from this official, who is no partisan gunslinger."

No partisan gunslinger?

Even fans of Mr. Rove would be hard-presseed to deny he's a "partisan gunslinger" - just the kind of person Novak says his leaker wasn't.

Could Novak have been lying to protect Mr. Rove? Perhaps. But by the time he wrote the above words, the Plame leak was already under investigation by the Justice Department, a develpoment that would have guaranteed that he'd have to repeat that falsehood under oath.


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; novak; plame; rove

1 posted on 07/13/2005 6:12:31 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I would say that suggests Tenet may be the culprit. He was appointed by Clinton, and kept by Bush.


2 posted on 07/13/2005 6:14:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Carl/NewsMax
The funny thing is when the media went after a journalist it despised, they found themselves hoist on their own petard. And what's more, it looks like the Rove angle is going to turn up dry.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 07/13/2005 6:14:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Rove has already testified in this case. The press is just flat out insane in their desire to see him fired. So much so, that they ignore all facts and operate on hatred and emotion. A typical example of liberalism. Sickening.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 6:15:34 AM PDT by Galtoid
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To: Brilliant

ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh I hope so... Then let's see the lib press go nuts over the fact it was not Rove


5 posted on 07/13/2005 6:15:39 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Alan Foley. Novak would have the kind of connection to get on the phone with Foley.


6 posted on 07/13/2005 6:17:03 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

7 posted on 07/13/2005 6:18:14 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I can't wait until this blows up in the democRATS/MSM faces.

LaRouche for President /08 LoL! The Liberal party will be born soon, Hilary 's party. And she'll be their Candidate for /08.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 6:19:42 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: The G Man
Ooooh.

Bumping and bookmarking to see if you're right.

9 posted on 07/13/2005 6:22:19 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Rove is just a pawn in the great chess game set for when the president announces his pick for the Supreme Court. The media needs to keep its' claws sharpened so they can attack the nominee with as much viciousness as it has with the Bolton nomination. Watch for Russert to come out of hiding and for McCain to once again become a ''regular'' on the Imus (yawning) show.
10 posted on 07/13/2005 6:22:23 AM PDT by shadeaud (Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
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To: Brilliant

Powell or his deputy...Armitage.


11 posted on 07/13/2005 6:23:40 AM PDT by Dog
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To: The G Man

Great minds think alike.


12 posted on 07/13/2005 6:25:30 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Galtoid
Yes, but such activity at least keeps their sail looking billowed instead of flapping aimlessly, which would be the sum total of their message otherwise. They're at least keeping up the appearance that politics is slimy on both sides of the aisle, as if to say to their constituents, "Move along, nothing to see here. Go back to sleep." That same-old-same-old is a far better approach in their minds than admitting to their fears of their political sky truly falling---which is happening.

They just didn't have a winning argument when they tried to crucify Drudge and thereby, all those like him on the Internet.

HF

13 posted on 07/13/2005 6:29:13 AM PDT by holden (holden awnuhnuh truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: Brilliant

14 posted on 07/13/2005 6:30:14 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Excuse my ignorance, but why isn't Novak being threatened with/in jail like the other reporters? Has he already testified?
15 posted on 07/13/2005 6:39:14 AM PDT by Martin Tell (Red States [should act like they] Rule)
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To: Galtoid

The Dems figure they get decent mileage out of
the constant repetition technique. And the "code
words" are faxed to every biggie with a mic
in front of him/her each morning! Even FOXNEWS
gets it. This was revealed once again yesterday
a.m. by E.D. Hill. She said she got her "package"
script from the Dem source and read through it to
see what she could/should use when she went on the
air.


16 posted on 07/13/2005 6:40:18 AM PDT by Grendel9 (uick)
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To: Brilliant
I would say that suggests Tenet may be the culprit. He was appointed by Clinton, and kept by Bush.

I think you're on to something. Tenet and Berger should share a cell.

17 posted on 07/13/2005 6:40:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: The G Man
Yup.

He would certainly qualify as a "senior" member of GWB's administration....

18 posted on 07/13/2005 6:42:25 AM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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To: Martin Tell
Excuse my ignorance, but why isn't Novak being threatened with/in jail like the other reporters? Has he already testified?

Yes.

19 posted on 07/13/2005 6:43:57 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
This scandal is perfectly illustrating how weak the dino media has become. They are giving it their all -- front page, above the fold headlines etc. -- and very few care.

Further, I suspect that most of those who are paying attention are finding themselves in sympathy with Rove/Bush/Novak.

20 posted on 07/13/2005 6:45:08 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I wonder if it's Powell?


21 posted on 07/13/2005 6:51:04 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: The G Man

Exactly. My guess as well.


22 posted on 07/13/2005 6:51:40 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Martin Tell
Excuse my ignorance, but why isn't Novak being threatened with/in jail like the other reporters? Has he already testified?

He already testified before the grand jury about the source for his story and what the source had said.

23 posted on 07/13/2005 6:54:23 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Carl/NewsMax

"During a long conversation with a senior administration official," he wrote, "I asked why Wilson was assigned the mission to Niger. He said Wilson had been sent by the CIA's counterproliferation section at the suggestion of one of its employees, his wife. It was an offhand revelation from this official, who is no partisan gunslinger."

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This is not a crime.. Whoever talk to Novak didn't commit a crime by merely stating "Wilson's wife Valerie Plame got him his ticket to Niger."


24 posted on 07/13/2005 6:55:03 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: hobbes1

Who is Alan Foley.


25 posted on 07/13/2005 6:56:06 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I'm betting it was Sec. of State Powell. In 'off the record speak' by reporters, they usually refer to someone like the Sec. as "a senior administration official."

An advisor like Karl Rove doesn't get that appellation.

Besides, who would you go to if you were wondering why someone outside of the State department (retired) was assigned this task?

Won't the libs be angry if it turns out to be their favoritie.


26 posted on 07/13/2005 7:01:56 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Maybe Novak's source was Wilson.

After all,

Harold Ford told Imus this morning that Wilson is a patriot.

27 posted on 07/13/2005 7:08:37 AM PDT by syriacus (Did one of Michael's girlfriends have a key to Terri's apartment? Did Lazy Bones McCabe ask anyone?)
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To: wildbill
I'm betting it was Sec. of State Powell

Interesting.

28 posted on 07/13/2005 7:09:51 AM PDT by syriacus (Did one of Michael's girlfriends have a key to Terri's apartment? Did Lazy Bones McCabe ask anyone?)
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To: Eva

He was that cop in Beverly Hills Cop. ;^)


29 posted on 07/13/2005 7:10:52 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Martin Tell

My understanding is that Novak testified a while ago.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 7:28:57 AM PDT by bboop
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To: Eva

Look at post 11 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/948088/posts?page=2


31 posted on 07/13/2005 7:33:02 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Carl/NewsMax

One of the many problems here is that the media cannot & will not wait for the investigation to run its course.


32 posted on 07/13/2005 7:46:29 AM PDT by jos65
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To: Carl/NewsMax
"partisan gunslinger"

Rove personifies the term.

Good on him.

33 posted on 07/13/2005 7:57:13 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: jos65

None of these people spoke out on the Sandy Berger story, which is much more disturbing than identifying Wilsons wife as someone who works at the CIA!


34 posted on 07/13/2005 8:13:07 AM PDT by jw777
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To: The G Man

The same thought's occurred to me.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 8:28:25 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: wildbill
I don't think it's Colin Powell. Just took a look at some lefty sites, one in particular: Grand Jury Hears Testimony From Powell By The Associated Press, The New York Times, Sunday 01 August 2004

Jest for an example...BUT!!! at the same link, this:

-snip

That case and its potentially explosive political consequences were the subject of FTW's June 4th story, "COUP D'ETAT: The Real Reason Tenet and Pavitt Resigned from the CIA on June 3rd and 4th; Bush, Cheney Indictments in Plame Case Looming," by Michael C. Ruppert with additional reporting by Wayne Madsen.

--end snip.

Could be tinhat stuff, but I usually find my best revelatory stuff on liberal sites -- given that they create all these dust devil conspiracies against Republicans...

Tracking the drumbeats here...

36 posted on 07/13/2005 8:59:18 AM PDT by Alia (Free Karl Rove! No Justice No Peace!)
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To: rwa265

Thank you, for that link, that must have taken some digging. It would make perfect sense if Foley was Miller's source inside the CIA, but so would Valerie Plame. They were both WMD experts (supposedly, I use the term expert very loosely, here). It has been my contention all along that Miller is covering up more than the source of the name of Valerie Plame.

The more that I think about it, the more sense that it makes that this could be the source for both cases of leaks from inside the CIA and the target of criminal charges. Good work.


37 posted on 07/13/2005 8:59:53 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Alia

Listening to Rush... it all just keeps circling back to NYtimes and Mandy Grunwald. Mandy ran Hillary's NY Senatorial campaign. Is probably also involved in Hillary's latest-greatest campaign. Her last. I mean.


38 posted on 07/13/2005 9:25:46 AM PDT by Alia (Free Karl Rove! No Justice No Peace!)
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To: Alia

I'm not sure that the fact that Powell testified would rule him out as the source. It's assumed that Novak testified as well. Every WH aide was directed to write a letter confirming their absolute rejection of any confidentiality they might have required from any reporter.

The issue doesn't seem to be whether the source leaked in contravention to a law any more, but whether there was some other form of criminality like perjury.


39 posted on 07/13/2005 9:57:38 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill
The issue doesn't seem to be whether the source leaked in contravention to a law any more, but whether there was some other form of criminality like perjury.

I think you are right. How about an invetigation into whether or not a sitting President has been "set-up" by his political opponents -- to take down a sitting President in the middle of a War. I think it also has to do with who "gave the heads up" to a group of people under investigation by FBI/Homeland Security? And then there's niger

40 posted on 07/13/2005 10:40:42 AM PDT by Alia (Free Karl Rove! No Justice No Peace!)
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