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Calif. Guard Targeted Over Pig-Blood Flier
AP via Yahoo ^ | July 13, 2005

Posted on 07/13/2005 8:20:41 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Islamic leaders and peace groups are criticizing the California National Guard for a flier posted in its headquarters suggesting the United States execute Islamic terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood to deny them entry to heaven.

The flier attributed the practice to World War I General John J. Pershing.

"Maybe it is time for this segment of history to repeat itself, maybe in Iraq?" the flier stated. It was posted outside a cubicle in the Guard's Civil Support Division.

A second flier showed the wings and tail of a bomber forming a peace sign with the slogan, "Peace the old fashioned way."

Also posted was a cartoon from a Web site showing a Red Crescent ambulance stuffed with weapons and a caricature that looks like the late-Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat unloading the weapons.

Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Doug Hart at first defended the postings to the San Jose Mercury News, which reported them Tuesday, but Hart later said they had been removed.

Peace activists spotted the fliers during a tour last week.

The tour came after peace groups and a state senator questioned whether a new Guard unit had been formed to spy on U.S. citizens and had monitored a Mother's Day anti-war rally. A federal investigation of the allegations is underway.

"It's troubling to see a governmental organization dedicated to the security of our country promoting culturally and religiously insensitive ideas," said William Youmans, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Santa Clara. "It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; cng; codepink; diversity; islam; islamofascists; nationalguard; pc; pershing
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1 posted on 07/13/2005 8:20:46 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Horrors! Hand me the smelling salts!!!/S


2 posted on 07/13/2005 8:22:52 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Outstanding idea! The islamics will be washing themselves forever thereby making themselves unavailable for any more terrorist attacks.


3 posted on 07/13/2005 8:23:01 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

He didn't behead anyone - what's the big deal?


4 posted on 07/13/2005 8:23:12 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

FM if TROP can't take a joke!


5 posted on 07/13/2005 8:23:21 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: MEG33

lol....is there anything they dont whine about


6 posted on 07/13/2005 8:23:25 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

Bravo Sierra!

(... also, islam is a Death Cult, not a religion...)

7 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:02 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

If the Islamofascists are screaming, then this is EXACTLY what we need to do.

Go one step further. Bury those maggots inside the dead body of a pig. Let's see how much religious fervor they keep then.

I like it


8 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:08 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

But it's alright to offend the cultural values of Christians


9 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:08 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Dear William Youmans,
Get a life.
10 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:22 AM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: MEG33

terrorists are murders...........feed them pork and kill them!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:32 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The light at the end of the tunnel is actually a train heading towards you!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"It's troubling to see a governmental organization dedicated to the security of our country promoting culturally and religiously insensitive ideas," said William Youmans, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Santa Clara. "It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."
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No, William, this time it's different. We have to kill them before they kill us. Duh.

12 posted on 07/13/2005 8:24:43 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Islamic leaders and peace groups are criticizing the California National Guard for a flier posted in its headquarters suggesting the United States execute Islamic terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood to deny them entry to heaven.
Damned good idea ...
13 posted on 07/13/2005 8:25:20 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: lilylangtree
Perfect idea!

THIS IS THE WAY TO TERRORIZE THEM.

Whoopie!!!

14 posted on 07/13/2005 8:25:30 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

"It's troubling to see a governmental organization dedicated to the security of our country promoting culturally and religiously insensitive ideas," said William Youmans, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Santa Clara. "It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

LOL! Is it indeed! Prithee, how does one fight a war in such a way?
Its possible in some esoteric universe perhaps, but not in this one.
Too bad you are "troubled"...are you just as "troubled" when your buds call the us the "Great Satan" or is that just some nuanced allegory?

You can take the pig blood story that way too.

In short, if you are offended and "troubled", ts.


15 posted on 07/13/2005 8:25:56 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Personally I think the practice of dipping bullets in pig-blood is totally inappropriate. Why waste a perfectly good pig on someone going to hell anyways?


16 posted on 07/13/2005 8:26:16 AM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
I agree. It could make the bullet inaccurate. Issue every soldier and marine a pound of bacon. One kill, one slice of bacon in their mouth. The problem is, we don't play to win.
17 posted on 07/13/2005 8:26:44 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"It's troubling to see a governmental organization dedicated to the security of our country promoting culturally and religiously insensitive ideas," said William Youmans, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Santa Clara. "It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion.""

A guy who will blow up innocent children does not deserve to be treated sensitively. If there is some way to insure that he will not be rewarded for such acts in this life or in the next then we should "just do it"... "for the children"
18 posted on 07/13/2005 8:26:49 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"...flier posted in its headquarters suggesting the United States execute Islamic terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood to deny them entry to heaven. "

Pigs blood or no, does anyone really think these terrorists are going to Heaven?
19 posted on 07/13/2005 8:27:08 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
William Youmans, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Santa Clara. "It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

How the frig would he know. His "religion" gave birth to these terrorists.

20 posted on 07/13/2005 8:27:29 AM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Peace activists spotted the fliers during a tour last week. The tour came after peace groups and a state senator questioned whether a new Guard unit had been formed to spy on U.S. citizens and had monitored a Mother's Day anti-war rally. A federal investigation of the allegations is underway.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437149/posts

These creeps? So now their true colors as a fifth column stirring-up trouble with Islamic groups come to light.

21 posted on 07/13/2005 8:27:37 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

CAIR is absolutely correct about this.

We could simply nuke every single Islamokazi terror-sponsoring country, instead.

Fair enough?

22 posted on 07/13/2005 8:28:07 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (What part of "up or down" do you RINOs not understand?)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
The poster of the flier should be targeted - for an award!
23 posted on 07/13/2005 8:28:15 AM PDT by roylene
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

The flier attributed the practice to World War I General John J. Pershing.

I think this has been thoroughly debunked as urban legend.


24 posted on 07/13/2005 8:28:35 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Do they think we should hope these terrorists make heaven?


25 posted on 07/13/2005 8:28:41 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I think the guard should do a little "tour" of the peace activists hangouts and report what they don't like to the media.


26 posted on 07/13/2005 8:28:47 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America!)
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To: TBarnett34

Okay, but give me enough notice to get the hell out of here first.


27 posted on 07/13/2005 8:29:21 AM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: LIConFem

But it is not about what we think but what they think.


28 posted on 07/13/2005 8:29:47 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

Someone should have asked the Muslim - Peace Activist -- HOW?

HOW -- when terrorism is the chosen technique to implement Muslim ideology?

MASSIVE destruction of the enemy (Islamic) nations -- or the threat of extinction have been the successful techniques for protecting our civilization from threats of the past....

I believe it should still work.

Semper Fi

29 posted on 07/13/2005 8:30:13 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Saint Reagan
Okay, but give me enough notice to get the hell out of here first.

Spending the summer in France? ;)

30 posted on 07/13/2005 8:30:39 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (What part of "up or down" do you RINOs not understand?)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

Well we wouldn't want to offend the delicate sensibilities of scums who blow up children now would we??? {Barf!} I have no problem dipping bullets in pigs' blood, but how much does Hillary have to go around????
31 posted on 07/13/2005 8:30:42 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
This thread was posted yesterday and the most enlightening post concernend General Pershing who dealt with Islamic madmen during his time too.

Pershing had 49 of 50 terrorist that he'd captured shot and buried in pigskins in front of the 50th who was then released. That ended that and 42 years of no muslim terrorism after that indicates that he handled the problem pretty well.

32 posted on 07/13/2005 8:31:44 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Leatherneck_MT; All

As I recall, the Chechnian terrorists who held an entire theater audience hostage in Moscow a few years ago were buried by the Russians in pig skin. I guess if one arrives in the presence of "Allah" in pig skin, he loses out on the 70 virgins, etc.


33 posted on 07/13/2005 8:31:44 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

"It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion."

Well, sir, when said religion's "cultural values" include flying airplanes into skyscrapers and blowing up buses and subways, don't be surprised to hear the strains of the world's tiniest violin playing a song of sympathy for you. Furthermore, as Ann Coulter said in jest, "Nuke their countries and convert the survivors to Christianity"


34 posted on 07/13/2005 8:31:52 AM PDT by NRA1995 (West Virginia needs neurosurgeons like San Francisco needs gynecologists)
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To: Leapfrog
Actually Christianity is much in the mold of the the "Death cults" of Osiris and Mithra popular in Rome around the time of the rise of Roman Christianity. They thought that through the sacrificial death of Osiris/Mithra/Jesus represented in a ceremony, they would escape their own death and have eternal life.
35 posted on 07/13/2005 8:31:53 AM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion.

ERRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! Incorrect answer. Thank you for playing.

36 posted on 07/13/2005 8:31:54 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Oh, okay. Personally, I don't care one whit what they think, but whatever works for ya...


37 posted on 07/13/2005 8:32:07 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

You don't use blood. You use pig fat. Lubes the barrel better......


38 posted on 07/13/2005 8:32:27 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: GVgirl

thanks for the link...how'd I miss that one

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437149/posts


39 posted on 07/13/2005 8:32:54 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Thet Chechans who took the theater hostage in Moscow a couple of years ago were wrapped in pigskin before being buried. Nothing wrong with that that I can see.

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With Howard Dean the dems have formally graduated from "disarray" to "debacle", with "irretrievable disaster" just around the corner.
40 posted on 07/13/2005 8:33:34 AM PDT by speed_addiction ( Somethings gnaw on a man worse'n dyin'!)
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To: stevio

You think a pound of bacon will survive for more than a day in the hands of a Marine living primarily off MREs?
I doubt it. How about pickled pig's feet?


41 posted on 07/13/2005 8:35:05 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

"It's very possible to combat terrorism without offending the cultural values of a major world religion"

ESAD


42 posted on 07/13/2005 8:36:52 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: doug from upland
No, William, this time it's different. We have to kill them before they kill us. Duh.

That about covers the entire issue...

43 posted on 07/13/2005 8:37:09 AM PDT by easonc52
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To: cweese

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

Claim: General John J. Pershing effectively discouraged Muslim terrorists in the Philippines by killing them and burying their bodies with pigs.

Status: Undetermined.


44 posted on 07/13/2005 8:37:28 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Oooh, I hadn't read that. Thanks for clarifying with the link!


45 posted on 07/13/2005 8:38:24 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Can I be offended that CAIR is offended?

Or is that not allowed at this point in history?


46 posted on 07/13/2005 8:40:55 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: digger48

I know what you mean . . .


47 posted on 07/13/2005 8:41:32 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: LongElegantLegs

Ok, sure.


48 posted on 07/13/2005 8:41:47 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
execute Islamic terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood

I am all for this idea, but no doubt a Mullah would announce that if a Jihadist dies from a pig blood bullet, Allah will reward him with 140 virgins instead of 70 ... and the ignorant Islamofacist dupes will believe it.

49 posted on 07/13/2005 8:44:07 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: cweese

50 posted on 07/13/2005 8:44:19 AM PDT by skimbell
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