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Time's Matthew Cooper Expected to Testify
Las Vegas Sun (AP) ^ | July 13, 2005 | Pete Yost

Posted on 07/13/2005 8:27:24 AM PDT by YaYa123

Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, a key figure in the Karl Rove controversy, showed up at U.S. District Court on Wednesday. The grand jury investigating the leak was meeting, and it was expected Cooper would testify. He did not comment while entering the courthouse.

Meanwhile, President Bush and first lady Laura Bush are standing by Rove, whose role in the leak of an undercover CIA officer's identity has prompted Democrats to call for dismissal of the president's top political adviser.

Cooper wrote an article in 2003 in which he identified the officer as Valerie Plame. It was disclosed this week that the story ran after a July 11, 2003, conversation with Rove during which the political adviser discussed Plame but not by name.

Cooper had refused to reveal his source for the story but agreed to do so after a confidentiality agreement was waived. That came just before Cooper could have been sent to jail for not cooperating with the investigation into who in the Bush administration leaked her name and whether that constituted a crime

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I like this article, it gives a succinct timeline of events for those of us who need reminders, and for those who are just now getting interested in this.
1 posted on 07/13/2005 8:27:25 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123

Is this Matt Cooper the same person someone on another thread referred to as "Time's Cooper"? If so, he is married to Mandy Gruenwald, one of Hillary's most loyal and most vicious minions!


2 posted on 07/13/2005 8:30:13 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That is he. Married to an agent of Satan.


3 posted on 07/13/2005 8:32:00 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: YaYa123
a key figure in the Karl Rove controversy

Oh, so now this is a "Karl Rove" controversy???

4 posted on 07/13/2005 8:33:09 AM PDT by colorcountry (Where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words. .....Zell Miller)
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To: YaYa123
And I like Laura Bush's reply to a reporter: "Mrs. Bush, talking to reporters while traveling in Africa on Wednesday, called Rove "a very good friend" whom the Bushes have known for many years.

"It would be irresponsible for me to speculate on any of it," she said, "so I think I'll leave the speculation to you all and I'll leave the investigation" to the prosecutor. "

Maybe she learned a good lesson after the media so twisted her response to a question about a female appointee to the Supreme Court.

5 posted on 07/13/2005 8:34:14 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123

The press is going to stay on this until Rove pays somehow regardless of whether there's really anything there or not.


6 posted on 07/13/2005 8:35:11 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: afraidfortherepublic
If so, he is married to Mandy Gruenwald, one of Hillary's most loyal and most vicious minions!

Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?

7 posted on 07/13/2005 8:35:50 AM PDT by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: YaYa123

"It would be irresponsible for me to speculate on any of it," she (Mrs. Bush) said, "so I think I'll leave the speculation to you all and I'll leave the investigation" to the prosecutor.

Speculation is right!


8 posted on 07/13/2005 8:36:11 AM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: YaYa123
a key figure in the Karl Rove controversy...

It would be revealing indeed to see a Nexis/Lexis comparison of the number of MSM articles written with these fields:

Berger + classified
vs.
Rove + Plame

9 posted on 07/13/2005 8:36:48 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: The G Man

The media is all over the Rove story and what I want to know is how did Michael Isakoff get Cooper's email? After all of the hot air devoted to protecting sources, where is the analysis of Time turning docs over to the court and them leaking an email to Newsweek. Meanwhile Cooper was shown emotional about being released by his source. As you guys say, Barf alert. I did not know about Mandy Grunwald. So, maybe this whole story is still just democratic politicos out to embarass Bush.


10 posted on 07/13/2005 8:37:54 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: YaYa123
Cooper had refused to reveal his source for the story but agreed to do so after a confidentiality agreement was waived. That came just before Cooper could have been sent to jail for not cooperating with the investigation into who in the Bush administration leaked her name and whether that constituted a crime.

This is incorrect. Rove waived that agreement 18 months ago.

11 posted on 07/13/2005 8:43:49 AM PDT by sydbas
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To: YaYa123

I think you need to read this article for a summary of what is fact and fiction is this "nothing story" that the MSM isists is another Watergate.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006955


13 posted on 07/13/2005 8:45:24 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: YaYa123
"It would be irresponsible for me to speculate on any of it," she said, "so I think I'll leave the speculation to you all and I'll leave the investigation" to the prosecutor.

I've always liked Laura...

14 posted on 07/13/2005 8:45:36 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Honk If You've Never Seen An Uzi Fired From A Car Window)
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To: nikos1121
No, this not just another story. The criminality involved here is far more treasonous and vindictive than Watergate ever was. Rove and the other involved in the latest BushCo episode don't have a "third rate burglary" defense to rescue them. Have you noticed that Scott McClellan's defense is only to wait until the prosecutor acts? Scott doesn't even try to explain his and Dubya's prior inconsistent statements to the press.

BTW, here's a link to an earlier article that helps to understand what's fact and what is fiction. Noticeably, the CIA says they wouldn't offer a referral unlesss Mrs. Wilson was a covert agent at the time of the crimes by Rove and others in the BushMafia.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:PMi-X2KWqqMJ:www.billingsgazette.com/index.php%3Fts%3D1%26display%3Drednews/2003/10/01/build/nation/25-leak.inc+Plame+CIA+referral&hl=es

15 posted on 07/13/2005 8:53:32 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: bkepley
I never watch Dan Abrams, but last night Victoria T. (can't spell last name) was on with a couple of libs. She wrote the law concerning outing CIA people. Abrams and the libs were trying to say that she did not know what the law said.

Seemed weird to me that they would know more than the author.
16 posted on 07/13/2005 8:55:43 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: YaYa123

"Meanwhile, President Bush and first lady Laura Bush are standing by Rove, whose role in the leak of an undercover CIA officer's identity has prompted Democrats to call for dismissal of the president's top political adviser."

Keep peddling the lie that Valerie was "undercover CIA". She was not. She worked at Langley and her name was listed online on her husband's web site bio. How "undercover" is that? I guess the lamestream media believes if they keep pushing the lie, the sheeple will believe it.


17 posted on 07/13/2005 8:59:40 AM PDT by GOBUSHCHENEYGO
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To: MurryMom
I hope that there is a sarcasm note missing to your post, or I am just reading it wrong, if not you are crazier than a bed bug. There has been no crime committed stated by the former federal prosecutor that wrote the laws concerning the outing of agents. It had been 9 years since the agent was out in the field, 4 more than is necessary to not be identified.
18 posted on 07/13/2005 9:01:19 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: MurryMom
There is NOTHING to this. Plame was never covert and therefore never outed. You have to be posted overseas for that kind of work. In fact, information that she worked for the CIA was readily available on her husband's website as well as other sources. Andrea Mitchell openly admitted that everyone in the press corp knew Plame worked for the CIA.

Rove will be exonerated.

However, misuse of public funds and libel charges should immediately be field against Wilson and Plame.

19 posted on 07/13/2005 9:05:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: mariabush

No, MurryMom is a 100% hate Bush leftist.


20 posted on 07/13/2005 9:05:42 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: KC_Conspirator

May a pox be on her!!!!!!! People like that make my perfect blooe pressure go out of site.


21 posted on 07/13/2005 9:07:09 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: mariabush
Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified information, learns the identity of a covert agent and intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent’s intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $25,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If you are going to lecture me about 50 U.S.C. 421(b) it would be decent of you to quote the entire statute (see above). The statute's only reference to 5 years relates to the number of years that Rove may be imprisoned for his felonious release of classified CIA information.

22 posted on 07/13/2005 9:08:23 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom
Only in your wildest wettest dreams...

Rove did not out a covert agent. She had not been covert for nine years as she was outed by Aldrich Ames prior to 1994 and then again by the Cubans. She was assigned a desk job as an analyst at that time.

The identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame was compromised twice before her name appeared in a news column that triggered a federal illegal-disclosure investigation, U.S. officials say.

Mrs. Plame's identity as an undercover CIA officer was first disclosed to Russia in the mid-1990s by a Moscow spy, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. In a second compromise, officials said a more recent inadvertent disclosure resulted in references to Mrs. Plame in confidential documents sent by the CIA to the U.S. Interests Section of the Swiss Embassy in Havana.

The documents were supposed to be sealed from the Cuban government, but intelligence officials said the Cubans read the classified material and learned the secrets contained in them, the officials said.

Washington Times

She would have had to have been covert in the last five years for Rove to have broken the law, IF he mentioned her name, which he did not.

Cooper called Rove about a story on welfare reform and then mentioned that Dick Cheney had sent Wilson to Niger. Rove told Cooper he needed to back down as that information was false and that it was Wilson's wife who recommended Wilson for the trip. He never mentioned her name. Therefore, it is an outright lie that Rove was "peddling" the information as some have suggested.

Now...go crawl back under your rock.

23 posted on 07/13/2005 9:15:13 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: afraidfortherepublic
he is married to Mandy Gruenwald, one of Hillary's most loyal and most vicious minions!

I didn't know this.

Bears repeating.

24 posted on 07/13/2005 9:17:33 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ClaireSolt
After all of the hot air devoted to protecting sources, where is the analysis of Time turning docs over to the court and them leaking an email to Newsweek.

But you don't understand; it's okay for THEM to do it -- after all -- they're only protecting the press' right to freedom of speech, doncha know?

I wish I could believe this is one of those diabolical Rove plans everybody is always talking about -- a plan to completely and finally destroy the last shred of credibility the MSM has.

25 posted on 07/13/2005 9:23:23 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: MurryMom
...the former deputy attorney general who helped draft Intelligence Identities Protection Act - which Bush critics insist was violated when Valerie Plame was identified to Novak - said earlier this year that it's unlikely any laws were broken in the case.Writing in January in the Washington Post, former Assistant Deputy Attorney General Victoria Toensing explained that she helped draft the 1982 law in question. Said Toensing: "The Novak column and the surrounding facts do not support evidence of criminal conduct."

For Plame's outing to have been illegal, the one-time deputy AG explained, "her status as undercover must be classified." Also, Plame "must have been assigned to duty outside the United States currently or in the past five years."

Since in neither case does Plame meet those criteria, Toensing argued: "There is a serious legal question as to whether she qualifies as 'covert.'"

The law also requires that the celebrated non-spy's outing take place by someone who knew the government had taken "affirmative measures to conceal [the agent's] relationship" to the U.S.

Toensing said that's unlikely.

Newsmax

Bite me MM.

26 posted on 07/13/2005 9:26:56 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: MurryMom

"No, this not just another story. The criminality involved here is far more treasonous and vindictive than Watergate ever was. Rove and the other involved in the latest BushCo episode don't have a "third rate burglary" defense to rescue them. Have you noticed that Scott McClellan's defense is only to wait until the prosecutor acts? Scott doesn't even try to explain his and Dubya's prior inconsistent statements to the press."

ARe you being sarcastic? You're joking, right? Did you read the Wall Street Journal Online Editorial I posted?


27 posted on 07/13/2005 9:29:11 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: mariabush
if not you are crazier than a bed bug.

'Nuff said.

28 posted on 07/13/2005 9:32:34 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: mariabush

"I hope that there is a sarcasm note missing to your post, or I am just reading it wrong, if not you are crazier than a bed bug. There has been no crime committed stated by the former federal prosecutor that wrote the laws concerning the outing of agents. It had been 9 years since the agent was out in the field, 4 more than is necessary to not be identified."

I don't think she's being sarcastic in her response to me. Bottom line is, Rove was trying to help this reporter out by pointing out that Wilson was lying. This explains why he have permission to release his name two years ago.

The real story is why Miller refuses to give her sources.


29 posted on 07/13/2005 9:33:10 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

The left is so desperate right now to make this a story. I was laughing at the fools last night. Now they are pounding the drum against McClellan, saying he lied and are twisting themselves into contortions implying that this is somehow tied to the Iraq war. Bill Press kept spouting off that Wilson's credibility on the yellow cake was solid, even though it has since been proven that Bush was right, Saddam did seek yellow cake. He was so rabid I thought his head was going to explode, LOL!


30 posted on 07/13/2005 9:37:28 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: KC_Conspirator
However, misuse of public funds and libel charges should immediately be filed against Wilson and Plame.

With regard to Wilson's boondoggle trip to Niger, any information that he brought back was the property of the CIA. If the CIA classified any or all of the information (which I suspect would be normal procedure), Wilson unlawfully disclosed classified information when he wrote the op ed for the NYT and should be charged accordingly.

31 posted on 07/13/2005 9:37:56 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: afraidfortherepublic; The G Man

Mandy Gruenwald also roomed with Moynihan's daughter at Harvard.

The one who said that the Moynihan's did not "dislike" Hillary. LOL!


32 posted on 07/13/2005 9:42:47 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: nikos1121

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006955

Thank you. Someone did email the entire editorial, so I was able to read it all.


33 posted on 07/13/2005 9:52:21 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Read Everything! This Rove Dust Up Is Exposing The Left's Utter Hatred For Him.com)
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To: martin_fierro

wow. Was this photo of them taken at a Rio De Janiero annual celebration? wow..


34 posted on 07/13/2005 10:01:22 AM PDT by Alia (Free Karl Rove! No Justice No Peace!)
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To: MurryMom

Let me give you a little help with your link.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:PMi-X2KWqqMJ:www.billingsgazette.com/index.php%3Fts%3D1%26display%3Drednews/2003/10/01/build/nation/25-leak.inc+Plame+CIA+referral&hl=es

I wish McClellan would follow the Clinton Press Secretary mold. Remember? When the Clinton White House got tough questions, when the going got rough, they would assign a special office to handle the troubles. That way when White House reporters finally grew some balls, and wanted to pepper Mike McCurry with an onslaught of challenging questions, he would just refer them to someone else. McClellan isn't slick, but he ain't no coward.

"Those were the days my friend, you thought they'd never end...."


35 posted on 07/13/2005 10:03:12 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Deanna and GeorgiaMom.com)
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To: Ben Hecks

Thank you for again pointing out another unlawful infraction by Wilson and Plame.


36 posted on 07/13/2005 10:15:37 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Ben Hecks

Wilson's Niger trip was such a boondoggle, he did not even write an official after-action report. He didn't write anything at all. If I remember correctly, Wilson had someone from the CIA to go to his home, and Wilson dictated his comments.


Go here for Joe Wilson's own account of all this.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm


37 posted on 07/13/2005 10:40:32 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@You Will Need More Than Your Fingers And Toes To Count Joe's Lies.com)
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To: YaYa123
woohoo, way to go Mrs. B!!

Laura Bush for Prez!

38 posted on 07/13/2005 10:45:48 AM PDT by Boondock_Saint
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Good Grief! They are almost incestuous!


39 posted on 07/13/2005 11:24:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: martin_fierro

Cooper's marriage to Gruenwald adds a whole new dimension to this story. I wonder what kind of relationship Judith Miller has with Hillary -- Queen of the stolen FBI files? Who are they protecting???


40 posted on 07/13/2005 11:26:39 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: nikos1121

Exactly!!!!!


41 posted on 07/13/2005 11:56:13 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: MurryMom
Plame was not a covert agent, but a paper pusher. She had not been out in the field for 9 years.

If you are going to post lies about MY PRESIDENT AND KARL ROVE go somewhere else.
42 posted on 07/13/2005 11:59:25 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: ravingnutter

And the operaterive word here SEEK not BUY!!!!!!!!


43 posted on 07/13/2005 12:05:12 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Howlin

And now Cooper is saying he is going to write an article in Time about his conversations with Rove. Rove may have waived his super secret background so the man wouldn't have to go to jail. However, if he now writes about it before the grand jury is over he is a slimy scumbag.


44 posted on 07/13/2005 1:25:49 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have no idea who Mandy Gruenwald is. But isn't Hillary the one who demnded a special counsel to investgate the Plame outing? If Mandy is married to Cooper, and Mandy is a Hillary supporter, maybe Mandy should be looked into.


45 posted on 07/13/2005 1:37:19 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: ravingnutter

Iv'e heard that to. But it makes me wonder, why is there an investigation in the first place if there was no crime committed???????


46 posted on 07/13/2005 1:38:55 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: MurryMom

MM,

Who do you think that Judith Miller is protecting in jail?

Certainly not Rove, we both know that if it was Rove she would have long ago given up the name, probably in early November right before the election to create the most possible slime.

Rove told a reporter (Cooper) to watch out for this Wilson character-- he's a loose cannon. And he was correct. He did not leak a name.




47 posted on 07/13/2005 1:43:10 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: colorcountry

It's only a controversy because a Clintoon operative dirty trick backfired.


48 posted on 07/13/2005 1:59:59 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: YaYa123
That came just before Cooper could have been sent to jail for not cooperating with the investigation into who in the Bush administration leaked her name and whether that constituted a crime

Nah, no bias here!!!

49 posted on 07/13/2005 2:13:40 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: jaydubya2

The investigation was ordered by Clinton hold-over George Tenet. The Dems in Congress requested the special prosecutor.


50 posted on 07/13/2005 2:26:04 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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