Edward Cox Inches Toward Senate Run

1010Wins ^ | June 29, 2005

[montag813]

Oh enough with this loser Cox already. Heard him on Crowley's radio program and was very unimpressed. He also sounded nervous. What a dumb joke.

Pataki, Trump, Rudy. No one else would have a chance. Pirro would make for a fun catfight, but she would lose.

[inquest]

Thats a pretty dangerous assumption, isn't it?

Probably not. There's a lot of downright visceral reaction to her among the public. Remember that her husband failed both elections to get more than 50% of the vote, and he had charisma, and was running against unpopular and/or uninspiring Republicans both times. She has anti-charisma, and will probably be running against a popular "moderate".

Having lived through her outrageous, if not outright Communist concept, I don't even know what that means.

It means he endorses her views on health care. To put it in some context, she apparently (for public consumption, anyway) has abandoned her wildly unpopular HillaryCare proposal, and has "learned her lesson" since then. That was the general basis of Gingrich's comment.

[bill1952]

Probably not. There's a lot of downright visceral reaction to her among the public.

I'm betting that that is not true among the Democratic party and I'm planning a very, very difficult campaign, especially since that any "moderate" will not get the base so energized as to crawl over broken glass in the next election.

The Dems will vote for anyone but a Republican, period.

They are chafing, and absolutely apoplectic to return to power, and would vote for Stalin himself, if they have the choice between him and anyone that we put forth.

[bill1952]

and has "learned her lesson" since then.

And exactly how does that square with her "We are going to take things from you for the common good" speech? - Has Newt gone crazy?

[inquest]

[There's a lot of downright visceral reaction to her among the public.]

I'm betting that that is not true among the Democratic party

I'm sure the Democrats will vote for her in droves. But the country is not majority Democrat. I don't think Hillary would do well among swing voters.

...especially since that any "moderate" will not get the base so energized as to crawl over broken glass in the next election.

The "moderate" won't, but Hillary will.

[inquest]

Has Newt gone crazy?

Unlikely. I think he's just playing politics.

[bill1952]

The "moderate" won't, but Hillary will.

I agree. In fact, I'm counting on it.

[Ukiapah Heep]

Regardless of who wins, I dread the headlines.

[inquest]

I agree. In fact, I'm counting on it.

So do you agree that this could likely be the Republicans' strategy?

[California Patriot]

Yes, someone needs to do it, but it's unlikely that anyone can.

Smart, clear-thinking and aggressive are not as common in GOP candidates as they should be. But they're not nearly enough. As for the Conservative Party nomination and $60,000 ... that and what army?

[California Patriot]

"just playing politics."

Let's hope so. Even if it's just politics, it's very stupid politics.

[Cincinna]

That is 60 MILLION DOLLARS waiting for the challenger to PIAPS.
New York State has a GOP, a Conservative Party and a Right to Life Party. I don't know how many of those Cox would get, but the GOP and Conservative nomination would be his.
Mike Bloomberg, running as Republican again for Mayor has been polling at 65% and just got the endorsement of DC 37, the largest municipal union in the country, 121,000 members, 85% of which are Black and Hispanic.
Politics is changing . Stranger things have happened.

[bill1952]

I can't go that far
My point is that this would be the only way to beat her.

The clintons are very dangerous political animals with a huge following, a proven ability to raise enormous sums of money, (bye bye Dean) and a full court press already prepared by the Media for the instant that she declares.

Setting her up to run would be like inviting a hungry tiger into your bedroom to protect your wife from burglars.

She is probably the only democrat who has any chance at all.
In fact, I have no illusions about beating her with the current crop of likely GOP candidates.

The only sure way to prevail is to send her down to defeat in the state election.
Failing that, having Condi on the ticket would be a way to beat her straight up.

Otherwise we may have to get used to saying "President Clinton" for another 8 years.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

He said despite Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro's possible Senate run, he said, ``I don't expect there will be a primary,'' adding later that he thought Pirro's experience as a prosecutor makes her better suited to run for state attorney general. Pirro has said she will not seek re-election as district attorney and is considering a run for statewide office, but has not said what job might interest her.

I think Pirro, not Cox, has a chance of beating Hillary. I've heard that Pirro has a husband with legal problems, though.

[inquest]

The only sure way to prevail is to send her down to defeat in the state election.

I'd certainly be all for seeing her go down in '06. I don't support the strategy that I was describing at all, if that in fact is the GOP strategy. I was just saying that it likely is.

[bill1952]

Mike Bloomberg, running as Republican again for Mayor has been polling at 65% and just got the endorsement of DC 37, the largest municipal union in the country, 121,000 members, 85% of which are Black and Hispanic

I'm not involved in NY politics, but if Bloomberg is getting those numbers from groups hostile to traditional Republican values, then I'll wager that Bloomberg is some type of NE RINO.

Or not even that. - What is PIAPS?

[inquest]

He is, big time. He's pro-abortion, anti-gun, and a couple of years ago pushed for and received a citywide smoking ban in all establishments. One would be hard-pressed to find a single conservative bone in his body.

[BTHOtu]

Edward Cox Inches Toward Senate Run

[bill1952]

So how does he qualify to run on our ticket with those views?
Why would the party even want him? - Just let the Dems win and wash their hands of this nonsense.
After all it seems as if they have desided to become dems in order to win.
Cripes, we wouldn't let Nelson run here as a Pub, or become Dems, just to beat him.
The more I see, the more messed up the NY party seems.

No wonder it goes blue.

[Cincinna]

"I'm not involved in NY politics, but if Bloomberg is getting those numbers from groups hostile to traditional Republican values, then I'll wager that Bloomberg is some type of NE RINO.

Or not even that. - What is PIAPS?"

Blacks and Hispanics are not hostile to traditional values. Many of these people are Pentacostals and Catholics and are conservative on social issues. They have been taken for granted by Dems.
NYC politics has always been rather Byzantine, and party loyalty shifts. Ed Koch won re-election running on the GOP AND Dem line. We are one of the very few places who have many smaller parties which qualify to be on the ballot.

Bloomberg is a Republican running on the GOP ticket for Mayor. He was a strong supporter of President Bush in 2004 and was successful in getting the GOP Convention for NYC.

PIAPS = Pig In A Pantsuit.