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Dell without a 'Care' in the world
CNet News.com ^ | 7/13/2005 | Michael Singer

Posted on 07/13/2005 5:11:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates

Dell's customers are lamenting about the company shutting down the Customer Care message boards that have long been part of its Dell Community Forum, with some wondering about Dell's service commitment.

The moderated message boards, which allowed Dell customers to post and reply to questions about general order support, rebate status, warranty information or invoice questions, were shut down July 8. The company notified customers of the change on Monday with a posted message that referred customers to Dell's Order Status Web site or its online chat feature that promises to link consumers with a Dell Customer Care representative.

Longtime contributors such as "Rick," who also runs a site called DellTalk, expressed sadness at the changes.

"For those of us that have spent the past few years on these forums, we know the tens of thousands of people that the moderators have helped," Rick said in a post this week. "Shutting down the Customer Service (non technical) forums will only further the belief that Dell is focusing on business customers and doesn't care about the consumer."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: customerservice; dell; messageboards; pcs
The company's not been the same since Dude, You're Getting a Dell Steven was cut loose. Or is that lose?

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

1 posted on 07/13/2005 5:11:48 PM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

Will the 'customer care" be able to type in English (that is understandable?)


2 posted on 07/13/2005 5:14:54 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: A.B.Normal

Sikh and Ye Shall Find


3 posted on 07/13/2005 5:17:11 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Dell had a forum?


4 posted on 07/13/2005 5:19:15 PM PDT by glock rocks (Git er done!)
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To: Mike Bates

Mike, I knew your dad, Norman~!


5 posted on 07/13/2005 5:19:20 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: A.B.Normal

Yeah, he was the pride of the family.


6 posted on 07/13/2005 5:20:22 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Regards to Mom!


7 posted on 07/13/2005 5:23:26 PM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: glock rocks
Dell had a forum?

They used to be a forum.
Now they are agin'um.

8 posted on 07/13/2005 5:23:50 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Mike Bates
Done with Dell here.

My son's computer had a keyboard freeze going on. Tried reloading the driver, etc. Called India, who walked me through what I had done on my own.

India/Dell said, you need a new motherboard. Ben was able to get on a Nintento board and communicate with character keys, and found a kid who found and sent a driver to fix his problem.

Bottom line - no more out of the box iron here. I am buying local.

To hell with Dell.

9 posted on 07/13/2005 5:26:36 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: A.B.Normal
Will the 'customer care" be able to type in English (that is understandable?)

Probably, the AOL folks who do live customer care on the internet type in perfect english, the only give away that they ain't american (besides the lack of typos and too perfect english) is their names.

10 posted on 07/13/2005 5:28:19 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Mike Bates

Bought a Dell but will never buy another one. Too much trouble trying to get help on a problem that was THEIRS and it took us weeks to get it solved. Not Dells, no thanks, no more.


11 posted on 07/13/2005 5:28:19 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: Mike Bates

So, these were effective, efficient and enjoyable?

I can see why Dell shut them down. I had been considering a Dell the past few months. This doesn't help me want to purchase a Dell.


12 posted on 07/13/2005 5:33:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: don-o
Called India, who walked me through what I had done on my own.

A couple of years ago I called on a problem with what was then a new HP. Talked to a guy who claimed his name was Bob Smith. Sounded a lot like Jawaharlal Nehru, so I asked him what time it was in Bombay. He was seriously offended and told me he lived in New Delhi.

13 posted on 07/13/2005 5:33:46 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Dude got a cell for posessing weed.


14 posted on 07/13/2005 5:35:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Dude, You're Getting a Cell!


15 posted on 07/13/2005 5:36:20 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: cubreporter
The same with me. I have a dell laptop with problems. There is not Dell service with out buying their warrenty. Dell used to be a company with good service. Now it is a company with high prices and lousy service. I will never buy another Dell and I will do my best to keep my customers from buying Dell.

Dell is following the loser model. Provide good products and service until you have a large share of the market. Then cut qualiy and service to maximize profits.

If amyone reading this post is ever in the market for a PC, I would strongly urge buying locally from a dealer that provides local service.

I have a Dell laptop that is just over a year old. It is now junk. It will cost more the fix than it is worth.

In my opinion .. Dell SUCKS.

16 posted on 07/13/2005 5:37:15 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Mike Bates

Followed or replaced with, "Dude! You're goin' to JAIL!"


17 posted on 07/13/2005 5:37:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mike Bates

i met an upper level dell manager about a year ago who told me that their goal was to develop software that would allow even the novice computer user to solve their own problems.

if that didn't work, then the user would have to pay for assistance.


18 posted on 07/13/2005 5:38:10 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Common Tator

That's why I always buy from Dell Business. Their business and server support units are in the US. Home and general sales are in India.

If you call them, "Dude, you're going to support HELL!"


19 posted on 07/13/2005 5:39:05 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mike Bates

I am not expecting to have to replace iron soon, I hope. I have learned enough to do repairs and upgrades, But, when time comes to buy a new box, the local American company gets my business, Screw a bunch of internationalist bs.


20 posted on 07/13/2005 5:39:46 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Common Tator; cubreporter; All

I have a Gateway laptop on order, so I don't wanna hear no negative vibes about that outfit! Please?


21 posted on 07/13/2005 5:39:52 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Now THAT is funny. . .(and true).


22 posted on 07/13/2005 5:40:02 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Mike Bates
Sikh and Ye Shall Find

Right.

Hi, my name is Punjab, how I may help you?

I get the crap at work, my company's helpdesk recently went overseas. I call Dell support for my home PC....

Hi, my name is Punjab, how I may help you?

Just sickening.

LVM

23 posted on 07/13/2005 5:43:12 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: F15Eagle
I had been considering a Dell the past few months. This doesn't help me want to purchase a Dell.

I've been buying Dells for desktop use for ten years. No more. The one I got a couple of months ago will be the last Dell I buy.

I could go into the reasons why, but there's no need. Just go to Google and put in "Dell customer service".

24 posted on 07/13/2005 5:45:17 PM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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To: LasVegasMac

I called customer support for a pressure washer!!!! made in America!!! and the support line was answered by someone so incomprehensible and stupid that when I aksed to speak with someone I could understand, she hung up!!!!!

I called back 5 times and talked with 5 different managers who all said 'so sorry' in 5 different accents. All Indian/something.

And they never answered my question.

As for Dell, buy from the business side, get great service. Only buy a Dell.


25 posted on 07/13/2005 5:50:30 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Mike Bates
I bought a dell two years ago and I loved the machine. The company however is an absolute disaster to deal with. Took me three months to get an invoice, and they don't credit payments until dooms day and then tell you you are late!! Bad new company IMHO. I will never ever buy anything from them again.
26 posted on 07/13/2005 5:50:36 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Mike Bates

"Dude, you're getting shafted by Dell!"

You're thinking of Ben Curtis. He's performing on Broadway now.


27 posted on 07/13/2005 5:50:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: LasVegasMac
It's even better than that thees guys are named "Spike" or Bull or something macho and can barely speak English.
28 posted on 07/13/2005 5:53:59 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Common Tator
I would strongly urge buying locally from a dealer that provides local service.

Yuppers. Screw the multi national bs. Support your local geeks.

29 posted on 07/13/2005 5:54:35 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Mike Bates
I've had a Gateway 450 Laptop for the last couple years dual booting SuSE 9.0 and XP SP2.

It's a very good machine....other than my BIOS battery being dead:  if I swap battery packs without having the machine plugged in I loose all my BIOS settings.

Like any new machine from a major company like Dell, Sony, IBM, etc - if you're comfortable with computers don't even bother booting to the OS when you get it.

Just get the media out of the box, reformat the hard drive and reinstall the OS how you want it.....

Otherwise, you'll never know how fast the machine actually was before being bloated by the manufacturer.

30 posted on 07/13/2005 6:02:22 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Every evil which liberals imagine Judaism and Christianity to be, islam is.)
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To: don-o

Wow, am I the only one here who is happy with my Dell desktop? ;-) It is just over a year old and I have had no major problems--until now. The DVD player will not play certain DVDs. It will play others though. I don't know if the problem is with hardware or software. I contacted Dell personnel through their online chat service. None of the people I chatted with spoke English as a first language but we could at least understand each other. Unfortunately I have not solved the problem yet. My warranty lasts another year but I'm not sure how to get the thing serviced, if it comes to that.

Apart from the DVD, everything else has worked well. But then, almost anything would be an improvement over the generic, "off-the-shelf" PC I had bought from a local computer store b4 I got the Dell.


31 posted on 07/13/2005 6:05:42 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: don-o; All
Go here and Download This program

It will help with all the problems of losing a driver. It will give you a list of the drivers that are installed (or should be installed) on your machine.
Just click on the missing driver from the list and voila...it will take you to the appropriate site to download that driver.
Very handy to have J
(BTW, the name of the little program is Unknown Devices)

32 posted on 07/13/2005 6:06:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Common Tator
I don't buy systems from big companies anymore, not even big companies with a local presence (best buy etc). Well I did buy a laptop from IBM before they sold it to China.

Anyway; I build my own systems now. Initial prices may be a bit more than a whole system from Dell, but upgrades are cheaper. I just buy a new motherboard, processor and memory. All other components get reused. And I know what's going on with my system.

33 posted on 07/13/2005 6:13:11 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Common Tator

There is not Dell service with out buying their warrenty.



That's what made us mad. We PURCHASED the warranty and STILL went round and round for weeks on end. We were repeating our problem over and over and over again and they kept telling us to do something we were not qualified to do. We told them it was THEIR job because they were the technicians not us and that is why we purchased the warranty on the hard drive in the first place. Got sick and tired of the hassle when we spent one saturday on the phone for four long hours. They DID fix our problem but only after we would NOT GIVE UP and kept calling and getting names and times, etc. Never again. The product in our mind is simply not worth the effort. We will buy local with local service.


34 posted on 07/13/2005 6:34:37 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: cubreporter

Dell's prices seem reasonable though, I would say.

Local service is not always that good either though. My mom had to bring her PC to Best Buy once and we waited in line for like 2 hours because only 1 technician was there.

When I had this DVD problem the Dell person on the chat was telling me I had to open up the side of the computer to check things out, and the instructions he gave were not that clear. If I knew I was going to be told to do my own repairs I wouldn't have paid more for the warranty.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 6:38:29 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: bitt
As for Dell, buy from the business side, get great service. Only buy a Dell.

Yea, I only have like 43 Dell servers at work. The plus side is that when we have to call Dell support (about 5 times in the last 4 years) we do get someone that speaks English...with no accent!

LVM

36 posted on 07/13/2005 7:00:22 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: F15Eagle

I had a problem with my 2 year Dell today. With great hesitation I tried their live chat.

I was pleasantly surprised by the professional way the individual walked me through the process and found a problem that was not even Dell's fault.

I was very impressed. It was much easier to use the live chate because I could understand every word, rather than trying to interpret an Indian accent.

I just bought my wife a new Dell last week. May be I am a sucker, but I have had fewer problems with Dells than any other computers I have owned.


37 posted on 07/13/2005 10:32:02 PM PDT by arjay (Grow bold, not old.)
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To: Mike Bates

"a Gateway laptop" ? ....*shakes head, rolls eyes, and sighs* .....ya,.....sure,.....it will work out fine....


38 posted on 07/13/2005 10:55:02 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Common Tator
Dell used to be a company with good service. Now it is a company with high prices and lousy service. I will never buy another Dell and I will do my best to keep my customers from buying Dell.

I agree with that.

39 posted on 07/13/2005 11:01:17 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Fiddlstix

Thank you


40 posted on 07/14/2005 3:21:24 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: don-o
Good idea, there are lots of local and national computer companies who can put a great computer together, most times better, with custom components per your request, and cheaper. Try cyberpower.com, ibuypower.com and the like.

~Corey
41 posted on 07/14/2005 3:37:37 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: isom35

It'll be OK. Got my hammer ready in case there are any probs.


42 posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:44 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates
I really liked the "Dell Dude." They should have kept him on, IMO.

Carolyn

43 posted on 07/14/2005 5:46:19 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: All
Want to hear a good dell story??? (sarcasm)

Last year I purchased the (what I thought) top of the line Dell Inspiron 9100 laptop. I got all the bells and whistles on it and spent about $3,000.00... Less than one month into owning the computer the hard-drive decided to crash on its own and Dell did not know what caused it. Luckily I purchased the 4 year warranty and everything protection plan. The hard drive issue happened 3 more times!! and Dell just kept sending me new hard drives. Also, during this year my LCD screen went out, headphone jack broke, speakers stopped working and also I had to replace some fans. Finally I got connected with a tech out of TEXAS (NOT ASIA!!) who said they want to replace my motherboard in my laptop, well they sent a tech to my house. Apparently there was no need to replace the motherboard. About a month later my hard-drive went again and I finally got Dell to completely REPLACE the whole laptop. They sent me the brand new 9300 (refurbished) as I started at the computer I noticed the graphics were all messy so I e-mailed my tech who gave me a few things to try... Of course, nothing worked. So we arranged another swap of units and this time I told Dell I want a NEW ONE!!! IT came in about 5 days. Started it up and it HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AS THE REFURBISHED ONE I GOT!!!!! I was outraged and e-mailed my tech again and told him what happened. Then he sent me something about changing the DPI (I have no idea what DPI is) to 96. Both laptops were set at 120. It was finally fixed. I now for the moment have a brand new top of the line 9300 Inspiron......

Moral of the story: If you buy dell, BUY THE WARRENTY'S!!!!!
44 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:29 AM PDT by CollegeRepublicanNU (Rush Limbaugh could be my daddy...........)
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To: CDHart
I really liked the "Dell Dude."

Not all of us were fans, but that - and love - make the world go 'round.

Dave and Dude: A generation gap in pitchmen

45 posted on 07/14/2005 6:15:54 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: glock rocks
Dell had a forum?

Yeah. This is the first I'd heard of it. Wife's never had a problem with her's, so she's never needed it.
46 posted on 07/14/2005 6:32:33 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: don-o

I'm building my own, but the Wife uses a Dell. Never any problems.

The Dells they use at my job, however.....


47 posted on 07/14/2005 6:34:16 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: don-o
You mean Dell-hi.

Worst customer service in the world/India.

48 posted on 07/14/2005 6:34:39 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Mike Bates

"Dude your gettin' a Dell-hi"


49 posted on 07/14/2005 6:35:13 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: RandallFlagg

I have 3 dells, and I'm happy with them.


50 posted on 07/14/2005 8:12:27 AM PDT by glock rocks (Git er done!)
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