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20 Nuclear Suitcase Bombs inside the USA
Michael Savage July 13th Radio Program ^ | July 14, 2005 | Sweetjustusnow

Posted on 07/14/2005 12:24:33 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow

Paul M. Williams author of The Al-Queda Connection which is due to be released soon, provides a compilation of data based on; FBI, CIA, Vice President Cheney, Homeland Security, Attorney General Ashcroft and news sources. Makes a strong case that there are 20 suitcase nukes in the USA which have been smuggled in through the border with Mexico.


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He claims there are at least 5,000 sleeper cell individuals, gearing up to unleash multiple nuclear attacks on primary cities, very, very soon. Mr. Williams is meeting with Colorado Senator Tancredo and will address the Congress with his findings.

Michael Savage website as of this posting hasn't updated his site, as of yet, with yesterdays program. Check back when he does for more information on this.

1 posted on 07/14/2005 12:24:34 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Heh, great way to sell a book!


2 posted on 07/14/2005 12:26:04 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Um right. If Al Qaeda had even one suitcase nuke, they'd have used it long ago. And the notion of 5000 sleeper cells is ridiculous.


3 posted on 07/14/2005 12:26:58 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

This same old rumor has been posted here in the past.


4 posted on 07/14/2005 12:26:58 PM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

And they're using them "very, very soon" instead of now because?


5 posted on 07/14/2005 12:27:00 PM PDT by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Suitcase nukes, while they did/do exist, are extremely advanced forms of nuclear explosive. If they aren't maintained by a highly-skilled maintenance organization on a regular basis, they degrade to the point that they are nothing more than unusually heavy luggage. Even if some jihidiot managed to get his hands on one, the odds of it being armed, and in a good enough state of maintenance to go off, are practically nil. It is even more unlikely that any terrorist organization has access to a Nation advanced enough to produce a new one for them, since the US, the old Soviet Union, and possibly the Israelis are the only ones who ever developed such weapons or are/were capable of such.


6 posted on 07/14/2005 12:28:03 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Snake65

They want anticipation to peak?


7 posted on 07/14/2005 12:28:04 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

This book sure gets advertised a lot here


9 posted on 07/14/2005 12:28:19 PM PDT by neutrality
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Calling Jack Bauer !


10 posted on 07/14/2005 12:28:36 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
We like the subs!

11 posted on 07/14/2005 12:28:36 PM PDT by evets (You're welcome.)
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To: All

heard. Made my heart drop, but I regained composure and prayed. I hope you guys are right. There not on anyones time.


12 posted on 07/14/2005 12:28:43 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: Sweetjustusnow

The guy is a nutjob. So is Savage. Tancredo should run, not walk, away from this guy.


13 posted on 07/14/2005 12:29:06 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: All

heard. Made my heart drop, but I regained composure and prayed. I hope you guys are right. There not on anyones time.


14 posted on 07/14/2005 12:29:13 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: Sweetjustusnow
compilation of data based on; FBI, CIA, Vice President Cheney, Homeland Security, Attorney General Ashcroft and news sources

Uh huh. Anybody besides me going to bet that the only source for "Al Qaeda Suitcase Nukes in the US" is "news" sources like WorldNutDaily?

I know one thing -- I'm not going to read this book to find out.

15 posted on 07/14/2005 12:29:27 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Sweetjustusnow

If nuclear devices are set off by Islamic extremists in this country Mecca will be reduced to a glob of radioactive glass in less than 12 hours ... guaranteed.


16 posted on 07/14/2005 12:29:52 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Savage hammering home the fact that he is off the deep end.


17 posted on 07/14/2005 12:29:55 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

I hope that they don't consider Oklahoma City to be a major city.


19 posted on 07/14/2005 12:30:19 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Alter Kaker

5000 Wahhabi (ie, Saudi Funded) Mosques = 5000 sleeper cells.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 12:30:28 PM PDT by Dolphan (I like to watch the TDF at night)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

So we can blame you for the absurd title of this thread?


21 posted on 07/14/2005 12:31:32 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Alter Kaker

Right! And 7/7 would have been the perfect day.


22 posted on 07/14/2005 12:31:43 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Alter Kaker
the notion of 5000 sleeper cells is ridiculous.
Not so far-fetched, ask the Brits.
23 posted on 07/14/2005 12:31:55 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Sweetjustusnow
I wonder if he mentions that, due to the maintenance requirements, and suitcase nukes would be likely useless.


Scared Bunny Blog
Not for the timid

24 posted on 07/14/2005 12:32:05 PM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: Little Pig
f they aren't maintained by a highly-skilled maintenance organization on a regular basis, they degrade to the point that they are nothing more than unusually heavy luggage.

Would there be enough conventional explosive to kill the bomber? (I assume it would be a suicide bomber.)

25 posted on 07/14/2005 12:32:51 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Alter Kaker

HE said 5000 sleeper cell INDIVIDUALS -- or 5000 murderous lunatics, take your pick.


26 posted on 07/14/2005 12:33:36 PM PDT by Sioux-san (Two attorneys donated to Greer)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
If they have all this stuff and people, what are they waiting for? Why not detonate during last year's election, or on Inauguration Day, or during the Super Bowl, or on July 4th? Why allow the Great Satan to continue to focus it's resources overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan, picking off/up Al Qaeda operatives everyday? What are they waiting for?

Maybe this story, while possible, is more likely - bunk.

27 posted on 07/14/2005 12:33:47 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

And they are waiting for?


28 posted on 07/14/2005 12:33:56 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Those who are purveying this story are staggeringly irresponsible, and have destroyed any credibility they had as journalists.

Nukes aren't easy to handle, they don't preserve well, and the fact that we haven't been nuked (nor has Israel) is virtual proof that Islamists don't have them. There is nothing in their history to suggest that they would hold back for an instant, if they did have them.


29 posted on 07/14/2005 12:34:34 PM PDT by thoughtomator (For all you love to survive, Islam must be destroyed.)
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To: BrooklynGOP
Heh, great way to sell a book!

His book claims they have 20 suitcase nukes?

I'm going to write a book and claim they have 21 suitcase nukes.  Why would people want his book with only 20, when they can have mine, which offers an extra one free of charge?

30 posted on 07/14/2005 12:34:57 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Alter Kaker

And what makes you think they haven't already tried to set one off? People are working really hard to make sure that doesn't happen. But we'll never know about it because the Feds don't want us panicking and staying home from Wal-Mart!


31 posted on 07/14/2005 12:35:01 PM PDT by Sioux-san (Two attorneys donated to Greer)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

..err on the side of caution, even if this individual did just drop out of a spaceship.

We just can't afford to have any mushroom clouds over our cities.


32 posted on 07/14/2005 12:35:11 PM PDT by WalterSkinner
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To: Sweetjustusnow; Southack

Ping


33 posted on 07/14/2005 12:35:13 PM PDT by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
ABC News reported 1000 sleeper agents last night. Paul Williams was on Coast to Coast the previous night, which dwarfs Savage's radio audience (600,000 vs 5,000,000)

Coast-to-coast Live: tonight Paul L. Williams, author of the upcoming book, Al-Qaida Connection 07/12/05 | Perdogg

Coast to Coast Announcement: Al Qaeda Smuggling Nukes into U.S. ? Amazon.com ^ | 7/12/2005 | Paul L. Williams Posted on 07/12/2005 8:33:59 PM PDT by ex-Texan

You have to ask yourself the question about why the cable news networks do not air the story, while focussing on liar Joe Wilson, Aruba, Hurricane Emily...

34 posted on 07/14/2005 12:35:17 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Sweetjustusnow

"......... been smuggled in through the border with Mexico."

Simply not possible. We are in a WAR on TERROR!
Our HOMELAND is SECURE.

(especially our borders)

LOL


35 posted on 07/14/2005 12:36:18 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

This story has been going on since Sept 11th. Atleast.


36 posted on 07/14/2005 12:36:51 PM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: Little Pig
So. What do you think would deteriorate quickly? The explosive used for the implosion? (Nope) The electronics that sets the detonators off? (Nope) The detonators? (Nope) The battery? (Replaceable) The fissionable material. (Slowly) Seems to me that this notion of "rapid rot" is floated in an attempt to quell fear. If the fissionable material were to decay below critical levels, it would still supply a lot of radioactive contaminates.
37 posted on 07/14/2005 12:37:22 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: D Rider

Possibly, though if I recall correctly, the "suitcase" was metal-lined to help concentrate the blast wave of the conventional explosives further, so any non-nuclear detonation might do nothing more than turn the case into a metal beachball.


38 posted on 07/14/2005 12:37:35 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Pig
Suitcase nukes, while they did/do exist, are extremely advanced forms of nuclear explosive

Nukes are not that high-maintenence. A suitcase nuke would have to be VERY low-maintenence in order to not be useless under any conditions. What? Are you going to wait for a declaration of war to smuggle these in behind enemy lines? Hoping these are past their "best if used by" date is no protection.

39 posted on 07/14/2005 12:37:42 PM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: BluH2o

Not unless we get rid of the touchy-feely PC multiculturalist
liberal morons in Congress. I would hope that our response
would not give them time to object.


40 posted on 07/14/2005 12:38:39 PM PDT by beethovenfan
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To: Snake65
And they're using them "very, very soon" instead of now because?

The author's explanation is that Al Qaeda does things "when they're ready," so they're obviously not yet ready.

A BS explanation, of course, but it's the only one he can come up with.

41 posted on 07/14/2005 12:39:20 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Irontank; Sweetjustusnow
"Makes a strong case that there are 20 suitcase nukes in the USA which have been smuggled in through the border with Mexico."

The Williams "case" isn't strong if you know the first thing about Physics (e.g. half-life of atomic elements).

Suitcase nukes are SMALLER than ordinary nukes.

The smaller the nuke, the shorter the shelf life.

The less shielding that you have, the sooner that your electronics and conventional explosives deteriorate from the radiation.

The less fissionable material that you have, the faster you generally need your atomic trigger isotopes to emit neutrons. The faster you emit neutrons, the shorter your half-life. The shorter your half-life, the less time that you have before the nuke simply fizzles instead of booms. Beryllium trigger isotopes can have as little as a 53 day half-life, for instance. Polonium 210, a Man-made isotope that can *only* be created in nuclear reactors or cyclotrons, has a 140 day half-life.

This is simple physics. Moreover, heavy metals like uranium and plutonium are among the most brittle materials known to man, and the slightest bit of humidity turns them into uranium oxide or plutonium oxide (i.e. worthless rust).

So a "suitcase nuke" from 1991 (the fall of the CCCP) is likely little more than a rusted, shattered, fragmented collection of wiring and explosives today.

They *require* a constant, highly professional level of maintenance that needs to be performed in very, very highly advanced clean room labs.

No maintenance means no "Boom."

42 posted on 07/14/2005 12:40:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: taxed2death

You're the typical vigilante...why don't you just STOP that criticism! (*goes back to drinking kool aid*)


43 posted on 07/14/2005 12:41:29 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (FAKE conservatism is more dangerous than liberalism <<<---at least you know what you're gonna get!)
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To: Haru Hara Haruko

It was my understanding that the nuke itself might have a long expiration date (though not indefinite), but the triggers are relatively volatile. You might expect to keep an unarmed suitcase in-country for 5 years or so before it would have to be serviced. However, the trigger would probably be sent/smuggled in only shortly before such a device would be used. If you didn't use the trigger within a year or so, it would degrade to the point that it would no longer work.


44 posted on 07/14/2005 12:41:37 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: BluH2o

You know something? I'm not too sure about that. I haven't been too happy with the "winning hearts and minds" and "bring to justice" way the WOT has been handled so far.


45 posted on 07/14/2005 12:41:41 PM PDT by ImpotentRage
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Savage is skeptical of the report. Besides that, even if it is true what difference does it make?


46 posted on 07/14/2005 12:41:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Oh, OK. And they're waiting for.....?


47 posted on 07/14/2005 12:41:51 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Hillary for Prez! -(The Whitehouse wants its china back; China wants the Whitehouse back))
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To: Sioux-san
HE said 5000 sleeper cell INDIVIDUALS -- or 5000 murderous lunatics, take your pick.

That's still ridiculous. There's no way Al Qaeda has more than a few dozen actual operatives in the US, plus a couple hundred or so sympathizers capable of logistical support (i.e. fundraising).

48 posted on 07/14/2005 12:42:06 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: DTogo

The WTC bombings took a decade to carry out.

I don't know about the shelf life of nukes in suitcases.

I do know that many of the sources, and the statements from them, and much of the data that he sources is compelling and that I myself have read much of the same data.

Don't shoot the messenger.


49 posted on 07/14/2005 12:42:16 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (Help Kill Senate Bill 54....NOW. Another Property Rights Infringement)
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To: Little Pig
metal-lined to help concentrate the blast wave of the conventional explosives further...

Don't confuse the maintenance and lifetime issues of "hydrogen bombs" with those of "atomic bombs". These are worlds apart.

50 posted on 07/14/2005 12:42:30 PM PDT by GingisK
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