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Students Tap New Vein of Gay Issue
LA Times ^ | 15 July 2005 | Steven Bodzin

Posted on 07/14/2005 4:48:21 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

WASHINGTON — For more than a decade, gay rights advocates have grumbled about a federal policy that forbids blood donation by men who have had sex with men.

They say that the policy, originally intended to keep HIV-positive blood from entering the nation's blood supply, implies gay men are inherently ill and that it prevents healthy people from donating.

Occasional protests and talks with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which oversees blood banks, have brought no change.

Now, some college students have taken up the cause, and they're taking a new tack. Instead of pressuring the FDA directly, they are going after the American Red Cross — the largest and highest-profile blood collector in the country.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; aidscarriers; bloodbank; blooddonation; blueoyster; gaydisease; grid; health; hepatitis; hiv; hivaids; homosexualagenda; poofters; sickhomos
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There they go again...Public health V. "gay rights"...and the winner is?
1 posted on 07/14/2005 4:48:21 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

People who disagree with this policy should set up their own blood banks, and offer patients a choice. Liberal patients would be free to back up their blather with a decision to take the other kind of blood.


2 posted on 07/14/2005 4:52:44 PM PDT by maro
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To: Aussie Dasher
"They say that the policy, originally intended to keep HIV-positive blood from entering the nation's blood supply, implies gay men are inherently ill"

Well, DUH!!

3 posted on 07/14/2005 4:52:49 PM PDT by D.P.Roberts
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To: Aussie Dasher
Gee....I was stationed in the UK for a 1 1/2 years and I am not allowed to give blood. I am extremely healthy, but because of the fear of mad cow disease, I can't give blood. I want to, I just am not allowed to.
4 posted on 07/14/2005 4:53:25 PM PDT by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Occasional protests and talks with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which oversees blood banks, have brought no change

And that is the way it needs to stay.

I wonder what they would say if told they can only get blood transfusions from other gays?

LVM

5 posted on 07/14/2005 4:55:12 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: Aussie Dasher

let's ask Hillary what she thinks.


6 posted on 07/14/2005 4:57:27 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What a bunch of retards. Why should a high risk group WANT to donate blood? Do you want to kill other people? I cant give blood because I take medication for epilepsy and I don't feel disenfranchised in any way. Hell i have to take enough blood test as it is, getting sick of needles.


7 posted on 07/14/2005 4:58:41 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Students Tap New Vein of Gay Issue

Tap New Vein?...No double entendre there

8 posted on 07/14/2005 4:59:27 PM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me..)
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To: maro

But no, remember that the rules that apply to the rest of us don't apply to them.


9 posted on 07/14/2005 5:01:44 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Echo Talon

"Do you want to kill other people?"

They don't care. They are more concerned about their "rights."


10 posted on 07/14/2005 5:04:15 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Aussie Dasher

Where's that Sam Kinison skit about AIDS again? It should be required listening to these jokers.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 5:04:16 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Stop the Land Grabs - Markman, Taylor, Young, or Corrigan for SCOTUS)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Wonder if iv drug users are allow to give blood?


12 posted on 07/14/2005 5:04:47 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Echo Talon
Hell I have to take enough blood test as it is, getting sick of needles.

I know how you feel, to an extent. I'm pregnant every other year.

13 posted on 07/14/2005 5:04:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: Tax-chick

LOLOLOLOLOL


14 posted on 07/14/2005 5:05:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: dhs12345
If you are from Africa, you can't donate blood either. But I object...as a true minority, I want equal status. This reeks of discrimination. As a White African American Orthodox Jew, I demand my rights as a double minority.

Besides the fact that it is extremely confusing to celebrate Kwansaa and Chanukkah at the same time. The looks I get as I light my Menorrah at the Kwansaa festival....if looks could kill????

15 posted on 07/14/2005 5:06:48 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Can't give blood, either ... it would wreak havoc on the recipients' hormone levels.


16 posted on 07/14/2005 5:07:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: marmar

I think you should protest, have press releases, and hold high level talks. :-)


17 posted on 07/14/2005 5:07:22 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Tax-chick

You need to take up a hobby...or buy a TV...


18 posted on 07/14/2005 5:07:25 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: dhs12345
If you are from Africa, you can't donate blood either. But I object...as a true minority, I want equal status. This reeks of discrimination. As a White African American Orthodox Jew, I demand my rights as a double minority.

Besides the fact that it is extremely confusing to celebrate Kwansaa and Chanukkah at the same time. The looks I get as I light my Menorrah at the Kwansaa festival....if looks could kill????

19 posted on 07/14/2005 5:08:01 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: sofaman

My husband just bought a new truck. Maybe that will help.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 5:08:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Let the Queers donate blood...under one condition: Only Democrats or Liberals are allowed to receive the blood in transfusion.


21 posted on 07/14/2005 5:08:14 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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To: Tax-chick
I know how you feel, to an extent. I'm pregnant every other year.

Bless ya! How many do ya have?

22 posted on 07/14/2005 5:08:24 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Tax-chick

The world needs more new conservatives!


23 posted on 07/14/2005 5:09:49 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Aussie Dasher
Students Tap New Vein of Gay Issue

All right, who's the joker who wrote that headline?

24 posted on 07/14/2005 5:09:53 PM PDT by RichInOC (...remember, real hot dogs don't have veins.)
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To: sofaman

Whoops..I hiccuped


25 posted on 07/14/2005 5:10:04 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: RichInOC

ROFL


26 posted on 07/14/2005 5:10:39 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Aussie Dasher

I thought that HIV is not detected for a few months after infection, and this was the reason that homosexual blood is not safe.


27 posted on 07/14/2005 5:11:11 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Well, ya know....it is said you should pick your battles, wisely......this isn't worth the battle....
28 posted on 07/14/2005 5:12:28 PM PDT by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: sofaman
This whole thing is silly. BR>
I suspect that some gays are more reasonable and don't care or understand. Too bad we don't hear from them.
29 posted on 07/14/2005 5:14:28 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: sofaman; Tax-chick

Groucho Marx had an outtake on one of his shows where he was interviewing a woman who had alot of kids. He asked her how come and she said that she loved her husband very much. He replied that he loved his cigars, but that he didn't smoke them all the time... or something to that effect. ;)


30 posted on 07/14/2005 5:14:35 PM PDT by brooklin
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To: brooklin

Groucho was the king of the one liner...


31 posted on 07/14/2005 5:19:41 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Echo Talon

Expecting the 8th in February. How are you feeling?


32 posted on 07/14/2005 5:20:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I remember.. LOL funny, and right on!

33 posted on 07/14/2005 5:20:48 PM PDT by paul in cape
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To: Aussie Dasher

My dad has a pacemaker and isn't allowed to give blood anymore. 'Risk of him getting infection around the pacemaker' was their reason. AND he's white, farmer, never been to Africa, europe veteran, drives a truck...Oh, the humanity......


34 posted on 07/14/2005 5:20:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks. NRA)
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To: Echo Talon
Why should a high risk group WANT to donate blood?

How else could they prove, "Anybody can get AIDS!"

35 posted on 07/14/2005 5:22:22 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: sofaman; brooklin

It's funny how men can imply that babies are the woman's fault :-).


36 posted on 07/14/2005 5:22:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

That's what we think! I worked the polls in the primaries and general election last year with all the kids, and this fall we'll be working on reorganizing our precinct (once I get over the nausea :-).


37 posted on 07/14/2005 5:23:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: maro

Smoking or non-smoking? Paper or plastic? Gamble with your health and take blood from a gay or safe blood?

It would be as empty as the special fund that Gov. Huckabee of Arkansas set up so people who thought that the state income tax ought to be raised could voluntarily donate money.


38 posted on 07/14/2005 5:24:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

These people are truly sick in the head. I can't even imagine why something like this is important to them. Aren't there other things these people care about.

Stupid question. Never mind.


39 posted on 07/14/2005 5:25:09 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Aussie Dasher

"Tap new vein"...poor choice of words! lol


40 posted on 07/14/2005 5:26:27 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Right now I can't decide which political party is trying to commit suicide faster.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
This is ridiculous. The issue with blood isn't with the people who identify themselves as 'gay,' the problem is with those who participate in risky behavior.

Men who have sex with men, injection drug users, people who are involved with/have participated in commercial sex are all subgroups of the population that have MUCH higher AIDS/HIV prevalence than the rest of the population. Therefore, we don't use their blood. However, a legitimately abstinent gay man can give blood. So all these people need to calm down and shut up. It's not what you are that disqualifies you, it's what you do.

41 posted on 07/14/2005 5:27:32 PM PDT by staterightsfirst
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To: maro
People who disagree with this policy should set up their own blood banks, and offer patients a choice. Liberal patients would be free to back up their blather with a decision to take the other kind of blood.

Exactly!

42 posted on 07/14/2005 5:27:39 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Tax-chick

WOW! 8 Kids? Whew! I thought my Mom was busy with 4 of us growing up. Yea im feeling ok, meds keep everything A-ok.


43 posted on 07/14/2005 5:31:14 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: marmar

I got back from Italy in July of 1980; the cutoff for donating bllod is June of 1980. 26 years with no mad cow symptoms and I can't donate blood because I missed the deadline by about 2 weeks.


44 posted on 07/14/2005 5:35:17 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Aussie Dasher

The winner is NOT the public.


45 posted on 07/14/2005 5:35:54 PM PDT by bboop
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To: Aussie Dasher

So let me see if I get this straight. Students, who are all so wise, are making the tainting of the blood supply a civil rights issue?


46 posted on 07/14/2005 5:37:05 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (There are 10 types of people -- those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What about those that check line 30 on Mass Form 1, to pay at the 5.8% tax rate, rather than the lower 5.3 rate. Neither John F'n nor fat boy seem to do that.


47 posted on 07/14/2005 5:39:38 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: Echo Talon

I'm glad you're doing well. Worse than not being able to donate blood would be needing transfusions!


48 posted on 07/14/2005 5:39:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Lots of people are not allowed to give blood, including those who have travelled to certain countries. Are they discriminating against travellers?


49 posted on 07/14/2005 5:40:57 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Aussie Dasher

later pingout.


50 posted on 07/14/2005 5:41:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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