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NY TIMES CLAIMS EXCLUSIVE NEW DETAILS OF EVENTS SURROUNDING CIA LEAK, SOURCES TELL DRUDGE...
Drudge Report ^ | July 14, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:29:59 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

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To: Politicalities

621 posted on 07/15/2005 11:14:11 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't it always seem to go...that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I want to watch this with a pitcher of Margarita's.

Fire up the blender. The key ingredient is simple syrup, which is a super suspension of sugar in water. Don't forget the sea salt on the rim of the glass. ;o)

I think Powell was only Novak's other source. I think Miller only had Rove. Consider all of the gossip & buzz, after the mess I alluded to in my previous post had blown up. It probably took quite a bit of coaching by his lawyer, about how he should handle all of the heresy info he knew in testimony to the GJ.

622 posted on 07/15/2005 11:34:56 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Bush should name the name & let the festivities begin.

Absolutely not. The longer he waits, the harder it is for the opposition to mount a campaign to destroy the nominee. July and August are often slow months in the media (hence the idiotic coverage of the Rove story, for one thing), so a lot of media resources would be focused on a court battle.

By the time September rolls around the Senate will be back in session, off-year elections in places like New York City and New Jersey will heat up, and it will be harder to hold the public's attention on the confirmation battle.

623 posted on 07/15/2005 12:10:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: syriacus
I agree that a Ritter connection is well worth considering

A 1999 newsgroups discussion of Ritter's opposition to the sanctions, includes a discussion of Wilson's opposition to the sanctions and of Wilson's feeling that Saddam should be removed by bombing.

Scott Ritter Denounces the Sanctions!

[Wilson] gave a talk at the University here, and I had the opportunity to chat with him afterwards.

 
[Wilson] said Iraq has possibly the largest oil reserves in the world, since the proven reserves alone make it the second largest in the world. He said that Iraq has many pro western educated people and professionals. The sanctions have devastated the country, and the middle class has been wiped out. This will be bad for America in the long run. The country is getting radicalized. He said the prospect of having 22 million angry people sitting on the world's largest oil reserves frifgtens him. [Wilson] wants the sanctions removed immediately. He talked about the brutality of Saddam's regime. He also said that the US should do all it can to remove Saddam by bombing him. He didn't feel that the Iraqi opposition would have any effect.


About Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, he felt that Kuwait exacerbated the situation, and that Iraq had some genuine reasons for the invasion, such as the stealing of oil by Kuwait. Iraq lost a million men defending the Arab eastern flank against an  Iranian invasion, and felt that all arab countries should contribute in helping Iraq. Kuwait had given Iraq several billion, and after the war, Kuwait wanted the money back.


624 posted on 07/15/2005 12:36:48 PM PDT by syriacus (To WHICH entity does Joe Wilson pledge allegiance?)
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To: mware

Something has to give. The New York Times does not feel it is responsible to anyone but Liberal Democrats. Are Liberal Democrats reading their paper and buying their advertisements to support it? Is that how they pay the bills at the New York Times? Sooner or later Advertisers are going to wonder if the paper is worth it.


625 posted on 07/15/2005 2:37:20 PM PDT by Revererdrv
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To: federal

Thanks Fed, I thought so.


626 posted on 07/15/2005 9:38:48 PM PDT by Cougar66
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To: editor-surveyor

You're there already. My pardon.


627 posted on 07/16/2005 4:05:50 AM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: kcvl
kcvl, Is the Newswweek Aug 9 issue you've posted below, from 2004? Hope you don't mind me adding paragraphs, to make it easier to read<<

"To: Mo1

By Michael Isikoff and Eve Conant
Newsweek
"Aug. 9 issue - Secretary of State Colin Powell recently testified before a federal grand jury investigating the leak of the identity of CIA covert officer Valerie Plame, NEWSWEEK has learned.

Powell's appearance on July 16 is the latest sign the probe being conducted by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is highly active and broader than has been publicly known. Sources close to the case say prosecutors were interested in discussions Powell had while with President George W. Bush on a trip to Africa in July 2003, just before Plame's identity was leaked to columnist Robert Novak.

A senior State Department official confirmed that, while on the trip, Powell had a department intelligence report on whether Iraq had sought uranium from Niger—a claim Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, discounted after a trip to Niger on behalf of the CIA.

The report stated that Wilson's wife had attended a meeting at the CIA where the decision was made to send Wilson to Niger, but it did not mention her last name or undercover status. At the time, White House officials were seeking to discredit Wilson, who had become a public critic of the Bush administration.

There's no indication Powell is a subject of the probe; the department official said the secretary never talked to Novak about the Plame matter. Still, sources say the decision to question Powell shows the thoroughness with which Fitzgerald is conducting the probe—and that knowledge about Plame was circulated at the highest levels of the administration.

Though most lawyers thought the investigation was nearly complete, sources say Fitzgerald has recently recalled witnesses before the grand jury—apparently to ask about issues raised by a new Senate intelligence committee report that seemed to contradict some of Wilson's public statements about Plame's role in his trip to Niger. 426 posted on 07/14/2005 8:18:07 PM PDT by kcvl

628 posted on 07/16/2005 5:12:33 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Easy On The Eyes.com)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Your # 36 makes wading through this article worthwhile! I hope Karl Rove gets to see that poster of himself.


629 posted on 07/16/2005 5:20:28 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@His Wife Would Swoon.com)
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To: GoBucks2002
Don't think so. After "Korangate", "DSM gate", and now "Rove gate" the MSM has lost all credibility and the power to persuade anyone that can hurt a Republican.

At the same time, it would take a brave man (and the Chris Shays of the world are not) to buck G.W. Bush from this point on. Without GOP support, or worse a statement that "this is no longer our guy" would be the kiss of death even for a safe seat.

630 posted on 07/16/2005 5:29:43 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: BluH2o

Just for the record, it was Bob Novak who was wrong on the Rehnquist retirement prediction. Drudge just put the prediction "out there".


631 posted on 07/16/2005 6:07:09 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@To Use A Joseph Wilson metaphor, "This Is How Drudge Makes His Bones".com)
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To: tet68
Still laughing at your "Don't Plame me"

Universal "blame", or Freerepublic "flame", Plame works for me!

And I don't know why the media hasn't universally accepted "Plamegate" as the shorthand title for this entire story! (They probably can't bring themselves to so label the lovely Valerie).

But if the MSM were honest, they would admit this whole dang mess began with Valerie Plame. Anti-Bush Plame and that faction within the CIA wanted to discredit Bush. What better way to do it than prove the administration was wrong on Niger, and sending in Wilson to back their thesis up must have seemed to them, the perfect strategy.

If I'm remembering correctly, the CIA had already used Wilson this way, back in the late 90s.

Plamegate....PERFECT!

And the next time a Republican gains the White House, the first mission should be to clean out the nest of vipers who seem to dwell in the lower bowels of the CIA.

632 posted on 07/16/2005 6:21:27 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Plamegate.com)
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To: 1Old Pro
You wrote, "Exclusive details are this: Wilson himself leaked the name to the NY Times reporter."

I like that,and no doubt to puff himself up, the arrogant Joseph Wilson would smooze up NYTimes reporters with tantilizing, self-serving tidbits. But remember, Judith Miller was roundly criticized by her liberal media cohorts. They blamed her for aiding and abetting the Bush administration's justifications for going to war, with her articles that buttressed the threat of WMDs. I don't think Wilson or his wife, or any anti-Bush faction within the CIA, would leak to Judith Miller.

Novak described his leaker as "not a political gunslinger". That's Colin Powell...to a tee.

Read Robert Novak's column from October 1, 2003 and see if you don't agree, this has Colin Powell written all over it. I think The New York Times (and Judith Miller) would go to great lengths to protect Saint Colin.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031001.shtml

Here's part of it: "During a long conversation with a senior administration official, I asked why Wilson was assigned the mission to Niger. He said Wilson had been sent by the CIA's counterproliferation section at the suggestion of one of its employees, his wife. It was an offhand revelation from this official, who is no partisan gunslinger.

When I called another official for confirmation, he said: "Oh, you know about it." The published report that somebody in the White House failed to plant this story with six reporters and finally found me as a willing pawn is simply untrue."

633 posted on 07/16/2005 6:55:22 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Plamegate.com)
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To: YaYa123

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031001.shtml

here's that link again.


634 posted on 07/16/2005 6:55:45 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Plamegate.com)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Don't think so. After "Korangate", "DSM gate", and now "Rove gate" the MSM has lost all credibility and the power to persuade anyone that can hurt a Republican.

Then perhaps you can offer some other reason as to why, for all the President has accomplished, and for all that the Congress has done, their approval ratings are in the toilet. I really think the perception of scandal has eroded support over time, and that, while none of these scandals has led to a resignation from the Administration or Congress, the collective weight has worn down their approval ratings.

635 posted on 07/16/2005 7:03:16 AM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: YaYa123
As an extra bonus.... Here's more delightful mocking of the crazy rats!

MoveOn.org zombie army of the Living Dead:

And.... Karl Rove comments:


636 posted on 07/16/2005 7:15:20 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: GoBucks2002
The American people want Congress to stop screwing around and get busy on the peoples business. G.W. Bush has to do something about the open borders; it is making every body (on the right anyway) crazy.

Regards,

637 posted on 07/18/2005 4:06:38 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Enchante
Have you seen this? Hillary Clinton, Charles Schumer Nix Border Security Bill
...voted against legislation to enhance border security on Thursday. (check the date of our discussion)
I hope things are clearer to you now. Stay vigilant.
638 posted on 07/19/2005 2:30:22 AM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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