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Who Exposed Secret Agent Plame?
National Review ^ | 7-15-05 | Clifford D. May

Posted on 07/15/2005 11:54:27 AM PDT by nativesoutherner

From National Review this AM. Could be....

http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200507150827.asp


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1 posted on 07/15/2005 11:55:03 AM PDT by nativesoutherner
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To: nativesoutherner

Sorry gang, can't seem to make the link activate. Any help??


2 posted on 07/15/2005 11:58:15 AM PDT by nativesoutherner (Maj, USA (Ret))
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To: nativesoutherner

http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200507150827.asp


3 posted on 07/15/2005 12:00:20 PM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: nativesoutherner

http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200507150827.asp


4 posted on 07/15/2005 12:00:30 PM PDT by ReeWalker (GET OVER IT!!!)
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To: nativesoutherner
Cliff May was just interviewed on Fox.

He stated that, two days after the original Novak article, David Corn published some details of Plame's undercover CIA work that weren't mentioned in Novak's article. Corn's only attributed source for his article was none other than Joe Wilson himself.

5 posted on 07/15/2005 12:00:45 PM PDT by Bob
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To: nativesoutherner; doug from upland
Is there a possibility of a parody of this Wilson-Plame fiasco using Johnny Rivers' Secret Agent Man?........
6 posted on 07/15/2005 12:01:49 PM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: nativesoutherner
She was NOT a "SECRET AGENT"

She has NOT been "SECRET" for nearly 9 years.

Non-story

7 posted on 07/15/2005 12:03:04 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: nativesoutherner

Joe Wilson...


8 posted on 07/15/2005 12:04:04 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to Libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?")
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To: Howlin; cyncooper; Mo1; prairiebreeze
Cliff May was just interviewed on Fox.

He stated that, two days after the original Novak article, David Corn published some details of Plame's undercover CIA work that weren't mentioned in Novak's article. Corn's only attributed source for his article was none other than Joe Wilson himself.

Some days I just don't think this story can get any juicier.

9 posted on 07/15/2005 12:05:01 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Red Badger

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe next week on Rush's show...


10 posted on 07/15/2005 12:05:23 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: HarleyLady27

Or Mrs. Joe Wilson.


11 posted on 07/15/2005 12:05:55 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: Bob

So Corn "outed" her, but not really, because she couldn't be outed because she wasn't undercover.

So we have Corn picking one sentence in a Novak piece, blowing it out of proportion and then getting it all wrong anyway.

Typical.


12 posted on 07/15/2005 12:06:18 PM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: Peach
Cliff May was just interviewed on Fox. He stated that, two days after the original Novak article, David Corn published some details of Plame's undercover CIA work that weren't mentioned in Novak's article. Corn's only attributed source for his article was none other than Joe Wilson himself.

Man, it doesn't get any better than this! The editors of The Boston Globe are said to be standing on the window ledge on the 10th floor, screaming incoherently!

13 posted on 07/15/2005 12:09:48 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They've given you Rove's number, and taken way Ms. Plame.......


14 posted on 07/15/2005 12:10:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: nativesoutherner
Lefties=Wil E Coyote, Karl Rove=Road Runner..neep neep Wile E and RR
15 posted on 07/15/2005 12:10:53 PM PDT by halosfan2002 (Moral Clarity is a sign of good Character.)
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To: nativesoutherner
I think it was Hillary consulting Eleanor in her crystal ball again.
16 posted on 07/15/2005 12:11:17 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Peach
It is juicy. On the one hand there is Corn who described her undercover work; information he got from her husband. On the other hand is Rove, who said Wilson's wife apparently worked for the Agency. Of course we know who was attacked and why. Rush was talking about it again today, and I agree that this is over. The liberals are backing away, they know they've been beaten once again.

Now we have to wait and wonder what their next delusional emotional outburst will be about.

17 posted on 07/15/2005 12:13:10 PM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: nativesoutherner
Who Exposed Secret Agent Plame?

Who cares?

18 posted on 07/15/2005 12:13:19 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: nativesoutherner

Thats a funny headline. Secret agent...geez. I always dreamed the true world of espionage was much more formidable than these goofballs.

Which makes me think of Austin Powers.

Remember in the movie when he is transported into our era and he learns for the first time that the "cold war is over". He immediately launches into a tirade about how great it is that the scum sucking capitalists have been crushed by the working class, etc.

Then somone says, uh, Austin, our side won.

And he just as easily switches over and starts saying "ooh yeah, capitalism, baby, I love it" things to that effect. It's really pretty funny.


19 posted on 07/15/2005 12:14:23 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Justanobody

I don't know how long I can take the incessant coverage of this non-story.

It's everywhere.


20 posted on 07/15/2005 12:14:52 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

Chickenman !


21 posted on 07/15/2005 12:16:49 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: nativesoutherner

So Joe Wilson turns around and blames Karl Rove. Hahahahahaha! Yet MSM REFUSES to focus on the feather sentence that Sandy Berger rec'd as a result of him destroying evidence of clintoonian wrongdoing.


22 posted on 07/15/2005 12:16:54 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: nativesoutherner

So Joe Wilson turns around and blames Karl Rove. Hahahahahaha! Yet MSM REFUSES to focus on the feather sentence that Sandy Berger rec'd as a result of him destroying evidence of clintoonian wrongdoing.


23 posted on 07/15/2005 12:17:40 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Enterprise

The left just never learns. And the next time, they will up the ante and it will be a bigger non-story than this one. Watch for them to make up more stuff and demand impeachment.


24 posted on 07/15/2005 12:19:32 PM PDT by Peach
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To: nativesoutherner

Mountains from mole hills - the dems are sinking and in their flaying arms they clutch Rove. It's much ado about very little.


25 posted on 07/15/2005 12:22:11 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: nativesoutherner

OK, Corn outed her, but didn't do it intentionally, so there is no crime here.


26 posted on 07/15/2005 12:27:29 PM PDT by bnelson44 (A proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Peach
Sure it can...from some research I did this morning:

There were people who resigned from the CIA as a result of confrontations with Goss and his aide, Patrick Murray, specifically citing Murray as the reason. Now here is where it gets interesting:

...on Nov. 5, Murray raised the issue of leaks with the associate deputy director of counterintelligence. Referring to previous media leaks regarding personnel, he said that if anything in the newly appointed executive director’s personnel file made it into the media, the counterintelligence official “would be held responsible,” according to one agency official and two former colleagues with knowledge of the conversation.
Source

Also according to that article, it must be noted that the associate deputy director of counterintelligence's name was being withheld from this article because she is undercover.

27 posted on 07/15/2005 12:34:30 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Bob
Corn's only attributed source for his article was none other than Joe Wilson himself.

Miller is not sitting in jail for her and the NYTimes to protect Karl Rove. I strongly suspect that Miller's source is Wilson & Plame themselves.

28 posted on 07/15/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: nativesoutherner

Exactly. Wilson is the source.

He outed himself as a CIA agent when he reported in the press that he had been sent by the CIA to investigate Niger uranium transactions.

Except that he wasn't sent by the CIA, he was sent by his wife, which is not precisely the same thing.

And he outed his wife when he screamed that Rove had exposed her as an undercover officer, when in fact no one had done that.

Except that she wasn't an undercover officer.

And he exposed the apparent fact that the CIA is bereft of assets on the ground in a country that is involved in uranium smuggling. He exposed the fact that the CIA nuke specialists thought the idea that they were smuggling uranium "crazy", even though we now know it was true, since Libya came forward and revealed the source of their ore.

And he revealed the fact that there was a cabal within the CIA that was prepared to phony up an investigation in order to throw an American election.

I figure, Wilson should just keep talking.


29 posted on 07/15/2005 12:40:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: halosfan2002

LMAO that is great....needed that laugh


30 posted on 07/15/2005 12:42:01 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to Libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?")
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To: Mears
It's everywhere.

I know, I know ... nothing else is going on in the whole wide world except this non-story apparently.

The only reason I came here to to "expose" the FACT that she was NOT a "SECRET AGENT"

31 posted on 07/15/2005 12:42:48 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: ravingnutter

Most interesting, ravingnutter. You've done some outstanding research on this matter.

I'm just reviewing some files on this and didn't want to let this little tidbit to be forgotten:

June Of 2003, Wilson Told The Washington Post “The Niger Intelligence Was Based On Documents That Had Clearly Been Forged Because ‘The Dates Were Wrong And The Names Were Wrong.’” (Susan Schmidt, “Plame’s Input Is Cited On Niger Mission,” The Washington Post, 7/10/04)

However, “The [Senate Select Committee On Intelligence] Report … Said Wilson Provided Misleading Information To The Washington Post Last June [12th, 2003].” (Susan Schmidt, “Plame’s Input Is Cited On Niger Mission,” The Washington Post, 7/10/04)

Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Unanimous Report: “The Former Ambassador Said That He May Have ‘Misspoken’ To The Reporter When He Said He Concluded The Documents Were ‘Forged.’” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)


32 posted on 07/15/2005 12:44:54 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Some days I just don't think this story can get any juicier.

Oh goodie .. I have more emails to send to my lib family memebers ... LOL!

33 posted on 07/15/2005 12:45:06 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Bob

If it's David Corn the MSM's love affair with this story will end.


34 posted on 07/15/2005 12:46:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (Phil Donahue "has made the world safe for emotion masquerading as thought."-BOZELL III)
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To: Red Badger
Mind reader? Remote viewer? I started the song just before noon. SECRET AGENT MAN
35 posted on 07/15/2005 12:50:40 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: marron
So Wilson outed his own wife through Corn. Interesting that Ann Coulter came to a similar conclusion about Wilson in her Wednesday column:

"Rove had simply said Wilson went to Niger because of his wife, not his skill, expertise or common sense. It was the clown himself who outed his wife as an alleged "covert" agent by saying he was not recommended by his wife, and thus the White House must have been retaliating against him by mentioning his wife.

Wilson intentionally blew his wife's "cover" in order to lie about how he ended up going to Niger. Far from a serious fact-finding mission, it was a "Take Your Daughters to Work Day" gone bad. Maybe liberals shouldn't have been so insistent about that special prosecutor."

Since Rove isn't the target of the special prosecutor, could it be Wilson? If not now, perhaps sooner than later?
36 posted on 07/15/2005 12:52:07 PM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: GOPJ
If it's David Corn the MSM's love affair with this story will end.

Not a chance. The think they've got Rove by the short hairs with this, and they're not going to let anything get in the way of that.

37 posted on 07/15/2005 12:53:41 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: doug from upland

Great minds think alike.........


38 posted on 07/15/2005 12:56:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: doug from upland

Twins sons of different mothers..........


39 posted on 07/15/2005 12:57:20 PM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: Peach
From the Butler Report:

It is accepted by all parties that Iraqi officials visited Niger in 1999. The British Government had intelligence from several different sources indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger’s exports, the intelligence was credible. [Unless it was chickens, LOL!]

The Butler Report affirmed what the British government had said about the Niger uranium story back in 2003, and specifically endorsed what Bush said as well.

By extension, we conclude also that the statement in President Bush’s State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that “The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa” was well-founded.

From the Senate Committee:

The U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence reported July 7, 2004 that the CIA had received reports from a foreign government (not named, but probably Britain) that Iraq had actually concluded a deal with Niger to supply 500 tons a year of partially processed uranium ore, or "yellowcake." That is potentially enough to produce 50 nuclear warheads.

The Senate report said the CIA then asked a "former ambassador" to go to Niger and report. That is a reference to Joseph Wilson -- who later became a vocal critic of the President's 16 words. The Senate report said Wilson brought back denials of any Niger-Iraq uranium sale, and argued that such a sale wasn't likely to happen. But the Intelligence Committee report also reveals that Wilson brought back something else as well -- evidence that Iraq may well have wanted to buy uranium.

Wilson reported that he had met with Niger's former Prime Minister Ibrahim Mayaki, who said that in June 1999 he was asked to meet with a delegation from Iraq to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between the two countries.

Based on what Wilson told them, CIA analysts wrote an intelligence report saying former Prime Minister Mayki "interpreted 'expanding commercial relations' to mean that the (Iraqi) delegation wanted to discuss uranium yellowcake sales." In fact, the Intelligence Committee report said that "for most analysts" Wilson's trip to Niger "lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal."

He (the intelligence officer) said he judged that the most important fact in the report was that the Nigerian officials admitted that the Iraqi delegation had traveled there in 1999, and that the Nigerian Prime Minister believed the Iraqis were interested in purchasing uranium, because this provided some confirmation of foreign government service reporting.

Both the US and British investigations make clear that some forged Italian documents, exposed as fakes soon after Bush spoke, were not the basis for the British intelligence Bush cited, or the CIA's conclusion that Iraq was trying to get uranium.

FactCheck.org

40 posted on 07/15/2005 12:57:25 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: GOPJ
If it's David Corn, the MSM's love affair with this story will end.

In one day, it'll go from "Oh so important", to "who cares, everyone does it". Going to be fun to watch these "principled" folks turn on the dime...

41 posted on 07/15/2005 12:57:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (Phil Donahue "has made the world safe for emotion masquerading as thought."-BOZELL III)
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To: ravingnutter

I remember the Butler report and that CIA analysts concluded that Wilson's report lent more credibility to the uranium story than his public statements would lead viewers to believe.

And it's good you sourced it that way because there are doubters on this very forum that Wilson is a liar.

I love how you get right to the heart of the matter; it's convinced me that I simply need a better way to organize my hodpodge of files.


42 posted on 07/15/2005 1:05:44 PM PDT by Peach
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To: nativesoutherner

Email I got from Air America to fire KR(if you like insane liberal rants) :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1443785/posts


43 posted on 07/15/2005 1:10:38 PM PDT by marylandrepub1 (Liberals outlaw God believing that 'they' are the gods and can create Heaven on Earth)
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To: nativesoutherner

All this is just like last month's Delay "scandal". It will peter out in a couple of weeks and then the desperate Dems will leap to something else.


44 posted on 07/15/2005 1:25:48 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Bob
Here's some links to an old blog that has more information on this subject than you can even digest. Just One Minute and Just One Minute> Besure to click on the hot links. This Timeline is particularly interesting. I think that the blog may belong to Clifford May, an lot of the information is the same that he wrote in his article today.
45 posted on 07/15/2005 1:30:55 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Peach

I cut and paste excerpts and links from articles into MS Word files and then convert it to .html, in chronological order, so all I have to do is cut and paste to FR. Saves loads of time. I label the files appropriately (e.g., Rove, WMD, Iraq-AQ, etc.) Although, I may have to reorganize mine into directories if this keeps up, LOL!


46 posted on 07/15/2005 1:58:25 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Bob

David Corn also expressed interest in a CIA person that was assigned to the National Security Council. He said that this CIA/NSC person knew Plame. Corn said he would "out" that person, but they are also under cover. He knows more than he is telling and it probably all came from Wilson. If Wilson "outed" this CIA/NSC person to Corn, maybe they should throw both his butt in jail.


47 posted on 07/15/2005 2:06:12 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Publius6961
Who Exposed Secret Agent Plame?

Who cares?

Ummm.. How can you expose a secret agent when she really isn't 'secret' -- and hasn't been for 5 or 6 years?

She was an analyst that worked a 9 to 5 job at Langley and was never going back to being a field agent because she had a family.

48 posted on 07/15/2005 3:17:24 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: nativesoutherner

I have a feeling the SP's investigation results will never be published/revealed?


49 posted on 07/15/2005 5:06:46 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Phantom Lord

Millers self imposed exile is not because she likes the view. When we come to understand that it will probably fill in most of the blanks left. MSM suicide continues to pick up its pace of self destruction.


50 posted on 07/15/2005 5:15:00 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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