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UN Panel: No Single Nation Should Control Internet Addresses
Yahoo! ^ | Jul 14 2005 | Aoife White

Posted on 07/16/2005 6:52:29 AM PDT by grundle

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UN Panel: No Single Nation Should Control Internet Addresses

Aoife White Thu Jul 14, 9:38 PM ET

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP)--A U.N. panel created to recommend how the Internet should be run in the future has failed to reach consensus but did agree that no single country should dominate.

The United States stated two weeks ago that it intended to maintain control over the computers that serve as the Internet's principal traffic cops.

In a report released Thursday, the U.N. panel outlined four possible options for the future of Internet governance for world leaders to consider at a November "Information Society" summit.

One option would largely keep the current system intact, with a U.S.-based non-profit organization, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, continuing to handle basic policies over Internet addresses. At the other end, ICANN would be revamped and new international agencies formed under the auspices of the United Nations.

"In the end it will be up to governments, if at all, to decide if there will be any change," said Markus Kummer, executive director of the U.N. Working Group on Internet Governance, which issued the report.

The 40 members of the panel hailed from around the world and included representatives from business, academia and government.

World leaders who convened in December 2003 for the U.N. World Summit on the Information Society in Geneva couldn't agree on a structure for Internet governance. Some countries were satisfied with the current arrangement, while others, particularly developing ones, wanted to wrest control from ICANN and place it with an intergovernmental group, possibly under the United Nations.

Leaders ducked the issue and directed U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan to convene the working group to come up with a proposal for the second and final phase of the summit, in Tunisia in November.

Though the group could not agree on a single model, it does recommend the creation of a new global forum for governments, industry and others to discuss key issues such as spam and cybercrime--areas not currently handled by ICANN.

The panel recommended a larger international role for "governance arrangements," Kummer said, and participants felt no one country should dominate.

He stressed the sentiment dates back to the Geneva summit and was not meant as an attack on the United States or a direct response to the U.S. Department of Commerce statement two weeks ago that it intends to keep ultimate authority for authorizing changes to the list of Internet suffixes, such as ".com."

The United States historically has played that role because it funded much of the Internet's early development.

"The group as a whole recognizes that it is clear the U.S. has played a beneficial role," Kummer said.

ICANN chief executive Paul Twomey said the report confirmed his organization's role.

"If the Internet was a postal system, what we ensure is that the addresses on the letters work," he said. "We don't think we're a regulator. We think we're a technical co-ordinator."

Twomey said ICANN had a narrow technical coordination role for a particular layer of the Internet - specifically domain names and the numeric Internet Protocol addresses used to identify specific computers.

But ICANN critics believe the organization has drifted beyond its technical mandate. They have cited ICANN's growing budget and its involvement in creating procedures for resolving trademark dispute as examples.

Paul Kane, chairman of a Brussels-based coalition of domain name administrators called the Council of European and National Top-Level Domain Registries, said the report told ICANN diplomatically that it needed to narrow its focus.

"Keeping things focused means not having a massive budget, having a well-defined scope and a well-defined mission," Kane said. "They have neither. They're not following their original remit."

Others have expressed concerns that ICANN remains too close to the U.S. government, which gave ICANN its authority in 1998 but retains veto power.

Developing countries have been frustrated that Western countries that got on the Internet first gobbled up most of the available addresses required for computers to connect, leaving developing nations to share a limited supply.

And some countries want faster approval of domain names in non-English characters--China even threatened a few years ago to split the Internet in two and set up its own naming system for Chinese.


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This is just dumb. The old phrase "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a cliche, but true. The U.N. has a really bad idea here. This is really a political agenda, not a technological one. If China or whoever doesn't like how the internet is being run, then they can create their own internet and run it however they want. I think what the U.N. really objects to is the free flow, unregulated, uncensored access to information that people currently have on the internet. I don't see how the U.N. could make the internet any better. But I do see how they could ruin it with their political agenda.
1 posted on 07/16/2005 6:52:29 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

As far as I am concerned, if another country wants to build the appropriate infrastructure, let them...to do it my UN mandate is simply ridiculous.


2 posted on 07/16/2005 6:54:13 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: grundle
...China even threatened a few years ago to split the Internet in two and set up its own naming system for Chinese.

By all means, go right ahead.

3 posted on 07/16/2005 6:57:40 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: grundle

Check out my posting yesterday on the Dissolution of Privacy in America.

Could it be that this is a probable source of where these lists are originating from?


4 posted on 07/16/2005 6:58:06 AM PDT by THEBEAK
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To: grundle

UN wants to control the Internet.

UN wants to tax individually within various Nation.

UN wants.....

UN wants.....

UN wants.....

UN is not much more than a source to scam Nations and enrich those who have positions or relatives in the UN. [Remember Food for Oil? Kofi's son's personal gain?]

Eventually, we will see the UN wanting reparations (from the wealthy Nations, of course) for worldly ills that long pre-dated the establishment of the UN. Hey, shakedowns have been working for Jesse Jackson for decades.


5 posted on 07/16/2005 6:58:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: grundle

Yep.


6 posted on 07/16/2005 6:59:21 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: grundle
So we really want the UN GC member nations to hold the whip hand over us?

Remember, that's where there non-security issues are governed.

Yep, the US would be outvoted by Algeria and Zimbabwe.

Bye bye Free Republic.

7 posted on 07/16/2005 7:01:02 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: grundle

my guess is a president like hillary would allow the u.n. control over the internet in order to subdue her opposition.

meanwhile, the u.n. would love control for the purpose of raising an international sales tax.


8 posted on 07/16/2005 7:01:20 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: grundle

When it comes to the UN, I have three words: Oil For Food.


9 posted on 07/16/2005 7:02:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: grundle

this is about sovreignty, again.......canada and australia URL's are sovereign in that they contain a dot-ca or au.....adding a dot-us URL component would be cheap and easy, and wouldn't give up another piece of sovreignty to globalists.


10 posted on 07/16/2005 7:04:05 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: markomalley

They can start their own internet if they want to.


11 posted on 07/16/2005 7:06:11 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: mewzilla
When it comes to the UN, I have three words: Oil For Food.

I have three words for the U.N. too, but much stronger, so I will just use letters.

G.F.Y.


12 posted on 07/16/2005 7:08:40 AM PDT by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: grundle

They're really desperate to take control of the Internet from the US (where it was invented) in order to control the flow of information to the Plebes, who'd stop dreaming of freedom as long as all the dirty propaganda outta the US (like FR) can be banned. It's for the children.


13 posted on 07/16/2005 7:08:51 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: grundle

I love how the headline frames the story as if it were just a simple question of fairness. Should one country control the Internet? Gosh, no, that's unfair. Then hand it over to the UN.
Good grief.


14 posted on 07/16/2005 7:09:44 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: grundle

Since the internet was invented by none other than our resident genius, Al Gore, I feel the USA has every right and obligation to control it.

What entity is better qualified anyway, that good old UN oil for food scam machine?


15 posted on 07/16/2005 7:10:25 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Better a thousand Lawyers starve, than one innocent person pay for their caviar.)
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To: grundle
Developing countries have been frustrated that Western countries that got on the Internet first gobbled up most of the available addresses required for computers to connect, leaving developing nations to share a limited supply.

Hey dingbats at AP!
They can just wait for IPv6.

16 posted on 07/16/2005 7:11:10 AM PDT by demlosers (Allegra: Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home.)
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To: grundle
What does Al say?


17 posted on 07/16/2005 7:12:47 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: grundle
We invented it. We built it. We funded it. U.N. wants to control it.

No thanks.

18 posted on 07/16/2005 7:13:12 AM PDT by Washi (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: grundle
This is why they call it cyberspace.

The word cyber, comes from the greek which originally meant a helmsman; one who governed a ship. In modern greek it means to govern.

A world government is coming, and it will start with the Internet.

19 posted on 07/16/2005 7:14:50 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81mm Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

dot US already exists and has for a long time. most countries have a Dot "country" such as de for germany, it for italy, etc.


20 posted on 07/16/2005 7:15:06 AM PDT by jimbergin
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To: grundle

I tend to agree with you concerning the UN's political agenda & it's desire to gain control of the infrastructure that runs internet address/traffic control. Besides we built the thing we are the ones who ought to keep it running for the sake of the rest of the world.


21 posted on 07/16/2005 7:18:02 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: grundle
If it exists, regulate it.

This is what governments do, they govern (even if they a totally unqualified).

The UN is not a government, they must never be allowed to become a government.

Then the next step will be to tax it (in order to provide funding for the coordination).
22 posted on 07/16/2005 7:19:23 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The MSM is a cancer on our society)
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To: grundle

This is all classic socialism thinking at work, on an international level. Seize the work that one nation has invested successfully in for the good of the world.

There is nothing to prevent the UN from building their own naming scheme that sits as a layer on top of the current network. But that would require work, and socialists don't like to do work, they just like to steal someone else's.


23 posted on 07/16/2005 7:19:55 AM PDT by Toskrin (All it takes to be a good person is emotion and a little self-praise)
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To: grundle
UN: "Thanks for building it. We'll take it from here."

USA: "Well, who do you have working on it?"

UN: "We've got our top men working on it."

USA: (incredulously) "What men? What men are working on it??"

UN: "TOP men"

/sarc

24 posted on 07/16/2005 7:21:17 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: grundle

GET US OUT OF UN
GET UN OUT OF US

Democracy is the rule of fools by fools. Hence socialism.


25 posted on 07/16/2005 7:23:16 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: grundle

Al Gore just needs to put his pink hands upon his hips, lean slightly forward from the waist and then stomp his left foot, all the while shouting to the UN pinheads; "just stop it, guys".

"There, that'll fix it".


Grundle, you are right, "It ain't broke" but if the UN gets a hold on it, it'll be screwed up big time and in short order and I'm sure with a hefty user tax tacked on it.


26 posted on 07/16/2005 7:30:47 AM PDT by miele man
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To: grundle

The only way they can take our Cisco servers is from our cold dead hands!


27 posted on 07/16/2005 7:40:29 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: grundle

By the way, I was not surprised to see "no selfcontrol" amongst all those many keywords.


28 posted on 07/16/2005 7:43:59 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: grundle

Only communists believe that the person who invented, built,worked the bugs out, marketed...added all his labor to
and object,a process, or and idea doesnt own it..

And that private ownership (and control) of property is immoral


30 posted on 07/16/2005 7:59:22 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: grundle

I believe the US government actually created the internet as DARPAnet (DOD, not Al Gore).


31 posted on 07/16/2005 8:25:14 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (On September 11th they hit our cities, we should level theirs.)
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To: grundle
UN Panel: No Single Nation Should Control Internet Addresses

And, especially not a group of moronic, demented, totalitarian socialists such as those comprising the Useless Nations Debate Club.
32 posted on 07/16/2005 9:01:05 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Ol' Sox

Raiders Of The Lost Ark?


33 posted on 07/16/2005 1:26:13 PM PDT by grundle
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To: wildbill

I didn't put any of those keywords there.


34 posted on 07/16/2005 1:27:35 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
China even threatened a few years ago to split the Internet in two and set up its own naming system for Chinese.

They might just as well make the split official. It is characteristic of China to wall themselves off.

35 posted on 07/16/2005 1:29:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: grundle

Bingo!


36 posted on 07/16/2005 2:27:53 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: grundle

BINGO


37 posted on 07/16/2005 2:28:49 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: grundle

Bingo!


38 posted on 07/16/2005 3:10:18 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: grundle
Who gave The Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) power to decide anything about the Internet? This has been going on for several years now with China leading the way, (the country which censors what its own citizens access on the internet) along with the support of Syria, Egypt, Vietnam, and South Africa, all defenders of human rights.

…wanted to wrest control from ICANN and place it with an intergovernmental group, possibly under the United Nations.

America did well; they invented and suck the cost into it, but now its time for wrest control

Typical of the Power-grabbing U.N.

39 posted on 07/16/2005 3:21:04 PM PDT by mcar
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To: grundle

HMMM. You are the second poster today who had the same odd plethora of keywords. Maybe the problem lies with the html coding.


40 posted on 07/16/2005 3:49:49 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: grundle

"The United States stated two weeks ago that it intended to maintain control over the computers that serve as the Internet's principal traffic cops."

Good.


41 posted on 07/17/2005 3:05:19 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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