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'RAUNCH FEST' Film role casts doubt on McCain judgment
The Sun News ^ | 7/16/05 | SUSAN ESTRICH

Posted on 07/16/2005 9:40:00 AM PDT by minus_273

McCain to Star in Boob Raunch Fest," read the headline in the Drudge Report. I don't even know what that is, but it certainly sounds like something that someone who's running in a process dominated by Christian conservatives would prefer not to be caught in.

It turns out McCain has a cameo role playing himself attending the big wedding in the raunchiest R-rated movie of the weekend, "Wedding Crashers." We've been exposed to the trailers and ads for weeks. My kids are eager to see it, all the more so because it is R-rated.

You know how that works: It must be good. I hear it's awful, with unnecessary montages of naked women's breasts, before they all sleep with our hero, for his endless meaningless sex - and, of course, endless swear words just for the sake of it, which is right up my son's alley (he's 12) and the sort of thing that bores and embarrasses my 15-year-old daughter and me.

According to the producers, they're "swimming against the tide" by making this "original R-rated comedy" in which, according to the previews, the stars get fondled at the dinner table and no pretense is even made of being family-friendly.

If John McCain were just another U.S. senator, you might say that it was quite a star turn, particularly for a Republican who is actually quite conservative on social issues. And since it's not just another senator, but John McCain, a man whose life story is of courage and service, maybe you'd say it's part of what makes him an appealing figure across generational lines. As he explained it, "It impressed my kids."

But McCain isn't just another senator. He is currently - according to the polls - the "front-runner" in the Republican race for the 2008 nomination, although Republicans are sharply divided as to whether that can hold in a process dominated by party regulars and Christian conservatives.

It was John McCain - the senator, not the character - who held hearings prior to the 2000 elections, as everyone is now pointing out, to take Hollywood to task for making R-rated movies and marketing them to teenagers. The result was a commitment by the industry to enforce more strictly the R restriction - with the unintended consequence, some would argue, that PG-13 movies got to be more sexual and more violent. This movie was conceived of as R-rated from the get-go, and McCain apparently is the only elected official to join the cast.

In 2008, one friend of Hillary's told me, he'll be 72 years old, he'll have had cancer twice, and he has a reputation for being erratic. Remember that Chelsea joke? It was a terrible joke - about Janet Reno being her father - that insulted both a teenage girl and her mother. Hillary has told off-color jokes, but sticking a knife in the back of a kid?

Will the right laugh off the senator's latest cameo as just that? Or will they ask what he was thinking when, having campaigned against R-rated films marketed to kids, he agreed to appear in one.

In the end, what may be at issue is not whether conservatives share McCain's sense of humor but whether they come to question his judgment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: estrich; hollyweird; mccain; mccain2008; moviereview; weddingcrashers
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This seems harmless to me.. it reminds me of bob dole's hillarious SNL skits ( and later painful to watch viagra ads). I always saw it as horrible that they didnt empahasize how sharp and funny Dole was in the campaign and instead the Rats got to paint him as a dull person.

That being said,
Remember that Chelsea joke? It was a terrible joke - about Janet Reno being her father - that insulted both a teenage girl and her mother.
HAHA!Man i want a clip of that!

1 posted on 07/16/2005 9:40:02 AM PDT by minus_273
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To: minus_273

Anything McCain can do to destroy his chances at the presidency are all right by me. Maybe next he can be on Punk'd. Go McCain Go!


2 posted on 07/16/2005 9:46:45 AM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: minus_273

Like Susan Estrich should be advising CONSERVATIVES what to think about films.....YEAH, right.


3 posted on 07/16/2005 9:46:52 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: minus_273
In the end, what may be at issue is not whether conservatives share McCain's sense of humor but whether they come to question his judgment.

Who is she kidding? She's obviously not lurking on FR, or she else she wouldn't be so damned ignorant about what conservatives think of McInSane's judgement.

4 posted on 07/16/2005 9:47:31 AM PDT by Huck (Conservatism jumped the shark with GWB.)
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To: minus_273
with unnecessary montages of naked women's breasts.

?!

5 posted on 07/16/2005 9:47:55 AM PDT by ChicagoRepublican
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To: minus_273

Bob Dole let his campaign managers paint him as dull. If he had shown some of that sense of humor during the campaign he would have... Well, he probably wouldn't have won anyway, but he would have made a better showing.


6 posted on 07/16/2005 9:49:04 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: minus_273

What judgment, this boy is simpy like all those other senators, 90% ego and maybe 5% judgment. They want to be celebrities. I am not sure Durbin regrets his treachery, for these clowns all publicity is good.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 9:50:11 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: minus_273

Like we need more examples of McKook's bad judgement?


8 posted on 07/16/2005 9:50:12 AM PDT by anton
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To: minus_273

McCain lost me in the primaries ages ago. He has been a democrat 90% of the time since.


9 posted on 07/16/2005 9:53:43 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: minus_273; Peach; Mo1

Frankly, I don't think this will play well to the base. Not that McCain gives a fig about the base, but it could do some damage to his ratings.

ping


10 posted on 07/16/2005 9:57:15 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (My dad, a WWII veteran always said that America's best ally was...Britain. He was right.)
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To: minus_273

Saw the film last nite. Knew it would be over the top and just hoped for some smart humor in between. Had seen all the others that were showing.

Conclusions, not that funny, and:

Did you see the last Strek movie, with scenes like the one where the young princess is in angst over the fit of a thong. Or how about the Cat in the Hat movie, where the cat is in conversation with the two kids and is talking and making gestures like he wants to "hump" their mother (whose picture he's looking at).

Anyone who says that it is the public sentiment that precedes the motives of advertisers and Hollywood, in continuing to lower cultural standards, is deaf, dumb, blind and ignorant; or is actively seeking that decline.

Well, with Wedding Crashers now having made it through with an R rating, the downward slope is about to get much more steep than it already is.


11 posted on 07/16/2005 9:59:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: minus_273

Not to worry as soon as the Dems fillabuster Bush's Sup court nominee, McCain will be "fin". McCain and the "gang of 7" are useful idiots of the left, McCain will not be the GOP nominee.


12 posted on 07/16/2005 10:01:19 AM PDT by JABBERBONK
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To: TheBigB

ping


14 posted on 07/16/2005 10:02:17 AM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: minus_273
All the crap McCain does and THIS is what gets them to question his judgement?


Scared Bunny Blog
Not for the timid

15 posted on 07/16/2005 10:03:53 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: ChicagoRepublican
I agree...the only reason they would be UNnecessary is if they were UNattractive.


Scared Bunny Blog
Not for the timid

16 posted on 07/16/2005 10:05:23 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: minus_273

I seem to recall reading, years ago, the "Wedding Crashers" star Vince Vaughan was a conservative.


17 posted on 07/16/2005 10:06:22 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines ("I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."--S. Townsley on Ithaca)
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To: minus_273

Definitely unpresidentiable. Would be tantamount to Ron Jeremy being elected US Senator.


18 posted on 07/16/2005 10:11:06 AM PDT by citizencon
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To: 1dadof3

hmm, care to provide a link? Publicly he's still spooprtive of the war ..


19 posted on 07/16/2005 10:27:10 AM PDT by minus_273
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To: citizencon

well Hillary was elected senator and Bill was president. I dont think i can get worse than that


20 posted on 07/16/2005 10:27:58 AM PDT by minus_273
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
yup, apparently Vince Vaughn is a conservative. I found him on this interesting list
21 posted on 07/16/2005 10:34:51 AM PDT by minus_273
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To: ChicagoRepublican
with unnecessary montages of naked women's breasts.

Why, there is simply no such thing. ;)

My only questions on McCain's judgment in appearing in the film are: 1) He looks about 1,000 years old - way too old to ever run for President in 2008, and 2) In his cameo, he is standing next to James Carville.

Vince Vaughn is great in the film - he's the funniest comic actor in America right now.

22 posted on 07/16/2005 10:39:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Some people are like gravy, spilled on God's Sunday shirt..." -- Spock's Beard)
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To: minus_273

"well Hillary was elected senator and Bill was president. I dont think i can get worse than that"

Sorry Ron.


23 posted on 07/16/2005 10:43:52 AM PDT by citizencon
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To: minus_273
Will the right laugh off the senator's latest cameo as just that?

Not me. Just the latest demonstartion that Hurricane Judas is unfit to be Commander In Chief or, for that matter, Senator from Arizona.

The problem, Susan, is that the GOP is (or at least was) a party of principle...something liberals don't seem to have much grasp of.

24 posted on 07/16/2005 10:46:55 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: minus_273

McCain did the single funniest skit I have ever seen on Saturday Night Live. He began singing Barbra Streisand songs (horribly) and then ended by saying something like, Barbra, I don't sing, and you shouldn't do politics.

Cracked me up.


25 posted on 07/16/2005 10:49:47 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: goodnesswins
Like Susan Estrich should be advising CONSERVATIVES what to think about films.....YEAH, right.

Susan Estrich has KIDS???

26 posted on 07/16/2005 11:20:12 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

"You know how that works: It must be good. I hear it's awful, with unnecessary montages of naked women's breasts, before they all sleep with our hero, for his endless meaningless sex - and, of course, endless swear words just for the sake of it, which is right up my son's alley (he's 12) and the sort of thing that bores and embarrasses my 15-year-old daughter and me."

Uh, if she does have kids and lets her 12 year old son see movies with this description, she might need a visit from CPS.


27 posted on 07/16/2005 11:26:22 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (In a democracy it don't matter how stupid you are, you still get an equal share.)
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To: minus_273; All

"... endless meaningless sex - and, of course, endless swear words just for the sake of it ..."


Tsk tsk Susan .. it was your bunch of scum that applauded all the "meaningless sex" in the OVAL OFFICE. You have no right to be upset about movies like this because it was your peers who said, "if it feels good - do it".


28 posted on 07/16/2005 11:27:15 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Biblebelter

Let's correct the statistics on this bum:

98% Ego; 2% Political Miscreant !!


29 posted on 07/16/2005 11:32:34 AM PDT by dk/coro
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To: minus_273

Damn! Remember when Laura Bush said,"Ladies and gentleman, I am a desperate housewife. "? The media had a cow. How dare She watch such a rauncy program. I don't see the media hammering on McCain.


30 posted on 07/16/2005 11:42:51 AM PDT by shiva
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To: citizencon
Would be tantamount to Ron Jeremy being elected US Senator.

That would be cool. Former school teacher. I think he's been involved in the business side of porn. He probably has more practical knowledge about government's impact on regular people than 90% of the sitting Senators.... He'd certainly be better than any of the Senators presently representing California or New York.

31 posted on 07/16/2005 11:44:00 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: SittinYonder
Anything McCain can do to destroy his chances at the presidency are all right by me.

Here! Here! That man puts his interests ahead of America's.

32 posted on 07/16/2005 11:50:04 AM PDT by johnwayne
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To: SittinYonder

McCain hasn't a 1% of being president IMHO.

I just can't see him coming here in Iowa and getting much supoort at all. I don't know other states, but I would think his RINO history will doom his chances.


33 posted on 07/16/2005 11:51:57 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: 1dadof3

yeah sorry i meant the vietnam war. any link to back up your post is what i meant (since i didnt know about it)


35 posted on 07/16/2005 1:30:09 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: prairiebreeze
Frankly, I don't think this will play well to the base.

It'll play just great to his base; problem is, his base is Chris Matthews.

36 posted on 07/16/2005 1:45:37 PM PDT by xjcsa (The Kyoto Protocol is about as futile as sending seven maids with seven mops to rid a beach of sand)
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To: prairiebreeze

Raunch Fest? That sounds presidential. Not.


37 posted on 07/16/2005 1:55:38 PM PDT by Peach
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To: minus_273

McInsane is my senior senator. I've been doubting his judgement for a long time.


38 posted on 07/16/2005 1:58:05 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Peach

McCain must REALLY want to be in a movie. Must REALLY want to show some connections with Hollyweird. Idiot.


39 posted on 07/16/2005 2:01:07 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (My dad, a WWII veteran always said that America's best ally was...Britain. He was right.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Posted 3/3/2003 10:58 PM

Ugly sentiments sting American tourists
As an A-list celebrity, actor Vince Vaughn employs an array of weapons to cope with hecklers, from a Saharan wit to a waiting limo.

But during a movie shoot recently in England, Vaughn found himself repeatedly reaching for the same comeback. Three totemic words from the attic of history: the Marshall Plan.

"I'd say one in three conversations wound up the same way, basically that 'America is the devil.' So I'd ask folks to think about the Marshall Plan a bit and get back to me," says Vaughn, 32, referring to the Allied blueprint for the reconstruction of Europe after World War II. "In the end, though, I just had to tell people, 'I'm not having this discussion anymore.' "


40 posted on 07/16/2005 2:24:15 PM PDT by AnnaZ (><>Hebrews 11<><)
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To: citizencon
Definitely unpresidentiable. Would be tantamount to Ron Jeremy being elected US Senator.

Ron Jeremy? Are you kidding? Look at what's already gotten itself elected to the U.S. Senate. If Ted Kennedy can be a U.S. Senator, there's hope for every ape in Africa.

41 posted on 07/16/2005 2:28:09 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: minus_273

The McCain/Hooters 2008 campaign.


42 posted on 07/16/2005 2:28:33 PM PDT by nairBResal
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To: xjcsa

"It'll play just great to his base; problem is, his base is Chris Matthews".

Watching McCain and Matthews is as uncomfortable as watching two guys masturbate each other.


43 posted on 07/16/2005 3:20:01 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: nairBResal

hahah that might actually score well with the men..


44 posted on 07/16/2005 3:55:46 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: Peach
Raunch Fest?

Odd how suddenly "moral" liberals get when rubbing hypocrisy in Republican noses and yet if Clinton were to STAR in a porno movie, they would be the first ones lining up to defend him (or her). Their morality seems only to care whether you have an "R" or a "D" next to your name.

45 posted on 07/16/2005 6:32:14 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: Uncle Vlad

If Ron Jeremy were elected to the Senate, he still wouldn't be the biggest prick in the building.


46 posted on 07/16/2005 6:34:32 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: Tall_Texan

Good one!


47 posted on 07/16/2005 7:48:17 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: minus_273
"In the end, what may be at issue is not whether conservatives share McCain's sense of humor but whether they come to question his judgment."

And what kind of truck does Susan ride on the back of? Since when, and 'how' could the Demrat's favorite Repub be as well, a valued Conservative Senator?

McCain's 'judgment' has been an on-going, front-line issue for Repubs; it is too bad the attempted 'recall' in his home state, failed; and we still, must suffer his. . .lack of discretionary judgment.

48 posted on 07/16/2005 7:52:53 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
He'd certainly be better than any of the Senators presently representing California or New York.

That's because Ron Jeremy hasn't scr*wed as many voters as those four Senators have!

49 posted on 07/16/2005 7:55:14 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Forget Blackwell for Governor! Blackwell for Senate '06!)
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To: goodnesswins

I cannot stand to see that woman on the news. Her voice is so raspy, and her looks are all dried up.

However, whatever McCain wants to do, to ruin any chance of that rhino running for office is good by me.


50 posted on 07/16/2005 11:23:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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