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To: NormsRevenge
"A loud group of protesters, however, outnumbered the volunteers and Chase temporarily drove away from the border in the afternoon to chants of "racists go home." "

This type foolishness certainly doesn't help win elections. But then many conservatives in California don't care about winning.

3 posted on 07/16/2005 4:10:26 PM PDT by bayourod (There's nothing conservative about being Anti-business, Anti-Bush, Anti-14th, Anti-immigrant, Anti-f)
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To: bayourod

And some people are cowards unwilling to stand up to a party that screws them every time.


4 posted on 07/16/2005 4:11:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If a democrats lips are moving, they're lying.)
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To: bayourod
"But then many conservatives in California don't care about winning."

And just what is it that qualifies you to even mention California conservatives, something a Texas Big Tent RINO/Liberal/Moderate would know absolutely nothing about?

We'll take care of California. You keep on telling us all how lovely everything is in Houston where you're up to your ass in illegals and pretending to love it.

6 posted on 07/16/2005 4:17:57 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: bayourod
This type foolishness certainly doesn't help win elections. But then many conservatives in California don't care about winning.

What does this have to do with trying to stop illegal aliens from crossing our border?

24 posted on 07/17/2005 2:35:57 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod
I've read so many posts by you, and until today I thought you were simply misinformed.  Today I've come to the conclusion you have a purpose to spread false information.  The most telling sign is your continued references to immigrant labor while attempting to defuse the issue of illegal immigration.

On your about page you state: "First among that group is the Buchanan gang that has been exploiting racism for almost twenty years, originally in an attempt by Buchanan to advance his own political career, then as spoiler to extract revenge on Republicans for rejecting him in favor of "that Bush boy", and finally as a profit making venture."  You give Buchanan much to much credit, or blame.  Buchanan is insignificant.

My Representative to Congress is a Republican.  He owns a farm like numerous others in Congress and state governments, Democrats and Republicans alike, that are farmers and ranchers.  This will likely come as a major surprise to you, but they profit directly from illegal immigrant labor.  It increases their personal wealth.  To accomplish the deed they contract with a "labor contractor" to supply the labor.  When improprieties are uncovered they simply let the blame fall on the shoulders of the "labor contractor".

Have you noticed it is Congress, not Pat Buchanan that creates our immigration laws.  All efforts to address the problems surrounding illegal immigration have stalled in CONGRESS for years, not Pat Buchanan's desk.  Congressmen (and state legislators) like mine, throughout the nation have a great stake in keeping the issue of illegal immigration from resolution.  Anything Pat Buchanan is making from his anti-illegal immigrant stance is insignificant when compared to what our elected representatives and their financial backers are making.  The problem is neither Democrat or Republican.  There are too many from both parties working in unison to keep Congress stalled.

Then there's these two statements:

"Minor players include Municipal Leagues, Hospital associations, social service providers' organizations and government employees' groups whose lobbyists are the ones commissioning the "scientific" studies showing that illegals have an adverse financial impact necessitating increased government funding for their institutions/communities/organizations etc...

But the facts are that our economy is dependent on immigrant labor; not enough are being admitted legally to replace the forty million American workers who have been aborted since Roe V. Wade."

Well now, one of those "minor players" is the GAO that has prepared reports for Congress that show illegal immigrants are taking jobs from American citizens.  Yes, abortion has taken millions of lives, but if everyone one of those children were here today, there would there would be more, not fewer American citizens adversely affected by the purposeful stalling of immigration reform in Congress.

30 posted on 07/17/2005 8:42:27 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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