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To: MadIvan

I admire Ms. Manji's courage, but not her reasoning skills. She just doesn't seem to understand that, when you reject the teachings of a religion, you've rejected the religion, period.


3 posted on 07/16/2005 4:20:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I wasn't always like this.)
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To: Tax-chick
I admire Ms. Manji's courage, but not her reasoning skills. She just doesn't seem to understand that, when you reject the teachings of a religion, you've rejected the religion, period.

Something like the "Catholics" who want to ordain woman priests in defiance of the Pope.

8 posted on 07/16/2005 4:31:05 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The only difference between Charles Manson and Mohammad is that Manson killed fewer people)
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To: Tax-chick
[I admire Ms. Manji's courage, but not her reasoning skills. She just doesn't seem to understand that, when you reject the teachings of a religion, you've rejected the religion, period.]



Most American Catholics use contraceptives in defiance of the church's teachings and don't think twice about it. To pick and choose a few "minor" items out of a religion's sack of truths is not really that significant in the overall view.
33 posted on 07/16/2005 4:59:32 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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To: Tax-chick

One might have said the same of the Christian faith at one time.

I'm with most around here on the dangerousness of Islam, but I reject the notion that the solution is to 'kill them all'

That may be the short-term solution, and it makes sense in so much as a reflexive reaction to the usual PC "we all know the overwhelming majority of muslims are peaceful" BS that retards our efforts. BUT, I've had this theory over the past few years... basically how the 'information age' impacts on every aspect.

The "first election" of the information age... the 'first new years'.. the 'first war'.. the 'first popular revoution', etc...

Most of these things are events that have occured before, but the majority were oblivious to them (at least in real-time). With the information access we have today it puts a strange new spin on some old stories.

I don't mean to trivialize, but I would think that Islam at least has a chance to 'reform' and resolve the issues with changing sociatial norms and the modern age.

Words like 'if you reject the teachings, you reject the relgion'... I'm sure were spoken by Catholics (which I am, complete with 12yrs of private schooling) back when Vatican II was going on.

In my humble opinion Islam consists of 15% Islamo-facists (I know thats alot of bodies), 25% (growing to perhaps 50% in 2-4yrs, was < 10% on 9-11) that are willing to actively fight against Islamo-terror and speak out and ACTIVELY do things to oppose that interpretation of Islam, and a whopping 60% that are (what I have termed) 'sufficnetly apathetic' to say "its not right" but not really care enough, or be afraid to, do anything about it.

Its that last number that can swell with Isamic Reformists, and I don't think thats something that should be written off.

Some people around here get waaaaaaaaay carried away with the 'towel-head' comments and 'no peace until they are all dead' tripe, and it disgusts me.

My initial reaction is that its just people OVERcompenstating for the PC and MSM response which is always 'too weak' by being 'too strong'.

People are right when they say Islam is largely 'stuck in the dark ages', I just don't see why anyone other than the terrorists would seek to keep it there.


52 posted on 07/16/2005 7:12:09 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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Thank you. And her push for society at-large, based upon some other articles about her, is decidedly Leftist.
71 posted on 07/16/2005 11:59:08 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Tax-chick
I admire Ms. Manji's courage, but not her reasoning skills. She just doesn't seem to understand that, when you reject the teachings of a religion, you've rejected the religion, period.

There's an important distinction between rejecting the core tenets of a religion and rejecting the interpretations and policies of its leaders. Islam needs its Martin Luther.

72 posted on 07/17/2005 12:23:41 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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