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Prosecute Plame: More Treachery in the War at Home
frontpagemag.com ^ | July 16, 2005 | DAVID HOROWITZ

Posted on 07/16/2005 8:20:46 PM PDT by DaveTesla

So now we know a lot of the facts. In the midst of a war, a rogue CIA employee named Valerie Plame set out to sabotage the President's war policy -- a policy ratified by both political parties and both houses of Congress. To do this she sent her husband on a mission to Niger to discredit the President's statement that Saddam Hussein was seeking uranium there -- in other words to discredit a justification for the war in which Americans were continuing to die. Forget for a moment the treasonous nature of an action designed to undermine a duly arrived at war policy and to destroy the credibility of the commander-in-chief while this nation's soldiers were in harm's way. The mere act of sending a relative on a mission like this was illegal under existing statutes for someone in Plame's position.

Her husband, Joseph Wilson, went off to Niger, did no investigation and came back and lied about what he had allegedly discovered. The bi-partisan 9/11 commission concluded that Wilson's claims were false -- a year and half after the damage the Plame-Wilson team intended was already done.

The Plame-Wilson lie was designed to make the President look like a liar and the nation's democratically and legally arrived at war policy a fraud. This came right at the climax of anti-war primary campaign of Howard Dean in July 2003, just three months after the fall of Baghdad and when the terrorist counter-attack had already begun.

Immediately the Democratic Party leadership jumped on the President calling him a liar and a fraud using the 16 words in the January 2003 State of the Union address about Niger as evidence. These 16 words were perfectly true than (as now) yet that didn't stop Democrats from using the Plame-Wilson lies to undermine the authority of the commander-in-chief in the eyes of the American people and before the entire world. No psychological warfare campaign ever conducted by an enemy against the United States has been as effetive as this one.

It emboldened our terrorist enemies, and sowed distrust in Europe and throughout the world about American policies, continued for more than six months with of course the megaphone provided by the NY Times and other Bush-hating and America bashing media institutions.

Joseph Wilson threw fuel on the fire by falsely claiming that Vice President Cheney had sent him and not his treacherous anti-Bush wife in her attempt to protect Saddam Hussein and his monster regime. NDavid Corn of the Saddam- and terrorist-sympathizing Nation and other journalists in the opposition press jumped on the story and projected the treacherous activities of Wilson and Plame onto the Bush Administration which was still trying to carry on an anti-terrorist war in the Middle East.

Corn was the first to suggest that outing Plame as a rogue CIA employee was itself treason and certainly against the law. It was not. Plame is not a cover CIA operative and besides and all its Democrat friends in Congress opposed the law protecting CIA agents and protected and even lionized the rogue CIA agent Philip Agee whose leaks of the names of covert CIA agents had gotten one agent killed and was responsible for the enactment of the law. The Nation also has been in the forefront of the fawners at the feet of liar Joseph Wilson giving him a dinner and award for his treachery. (Working against your own government in time of war, while in the employ of your government is by definition treachery.) In other words The Nation is entirely consistent: it will protect those CIA agents (Agee, Plame) who are enemies of the United States or its policies, and and only those agents.

Democrats will of course mentally dissociate themselves from acts of conscious treachery. And many of them have reason to do so. Unlike the Nation radicals, they are not rooting for our enemies to win. On the other hand, over and over in this war they have shown that they are prepared to win elections even at the cost of American defeats in the war on terror -- which as we can easily caculate may cost 100,000 American lives at a blow. Or as the President once put it to Tom Daschle, they are a party who will put their partisan interests above the security of 300 million Americans.

In a synchronity that all honest liberals should pay attention to, an appeals court has found that no torture or illegality took place at Guantanamo and that the legal campaign led by communist supporter Michael Ratner in behalf of the Guantanamo terrorists is based on an even bigger lie than the Plame-Wilson sabotage. In this assault on the war on terror from behind our lines the Democratic Party is also a willing and essential accomplice.

It's time for the Democrats to stop their sabotage of the war on terror. It's time for them to put away the witch-hunt against Karl Rove and Homeland Security, and to begin finally to think about defending this country instead of its internal enemies.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushhaters; cia; cialeak; horowitz; iraq; plame; rats; spooks; wilson
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NEWT GINGRICH DEBUNKS PLAMEGATE HOAX Calls Rove Accuser Joe Wilson a Liar on NBC Today

By Richard Poe @ Wednesday 13 July 2005, 5:23 pm
http://moonbatcentral.com/wordpress/?p=692

On this morning’s NBC Today show, former House Speaker
Newt Gingrich lashed into Plamegate hoaxster Joe Wilson,
whose phony allegations against Bush advisor Karl Rove
are rapidly falling apart at the seams. Wilson accused
Rove of revealing the name of Wilson’s CIA wife — thus
allegedly blowing her cover — in retaliation
for a report Wilson had written which supposedly
undermined White House claims that Saddam Hussein was
trying to obtain uranium ore from Niger.

Now we know that Wilson is a hoaxster. His wife was not
a covert agent during the period in question, her
identity was not secret, and Rove never divulged it.
The Bush White House did not authorize Wilson’s mission
to Niger, as Wilson previously claimed. Even worse,
Wilson’s conclusions on Niger were baseless and wrong.
He sought to lull Americans into believing that Iraq
was not trying to obtain uranium ore from Niger, when
in fact reliable evidence shows Iraq was doing just
that. Newt Gingrich told Katie Kouric this morning:

"[Joe Wilson] Lied to the country about who got him the
job. The Senate Intelligence Committee is scathing about
that. He lied to the country about his own conclusions.
The Senate Intelligence Committee Report repudiates him
on that. It turns out in retrospect he had been talking
to the Kerry campaign for months. He was a contributor
to Kerry and he was essentially a Kerry supporter his
book title is The Politics Of Truth and yet the Senate
Intelligence Committee said that "Wilson specifically was
using falsehoods on 3 or 4 occasions"



For more on the rapidly distintegrating Plamegate hoax,
see Byron York’s piece in today’s National Review
Online,
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200507121626.asp

which explains how Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper
set up Rove for what amounts to a journalistic frame-up.
Cooper, by the way, is married to Hillary operative
Mandy Grunwald —

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/10429/

a close confidante of the junior senator from New
York. "Hillary Clinton even threw Grunwald a baby shower
at the White House in July 1998. At the time, Cooper was
covering presidential politics for Newsweek," reports NewsMax.com.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/27/114029.shtml


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1 posted on 07/16/2005 8:20:47 PM PDT by DaveTesla
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter; Forecaster; stanley windrush

... David Horowitz ping...


2 posted on 07/16/2005 8:24:41 PM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: DaveTesla

How did that Republican driving the car on the right get in the picture?


3 posted on 07/16/2005 8:25:48 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: DaveTesla

Great article---

Sen. Kit Bond said the same thing as Newt did---

He and Sen. Coleman, and Sen. Hutchison, had a press conference after the Schumer/Wilson presser on Thursday, and Sen. Bond said that Wilson has perpetrated one of the "great hoaxes" of all time....


4 posted on 07/16/2005 8:26:50 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth
""great hoaxes" of all time...."

Some call it TREASON and SEDITION.
5 posted on 07/16/2005 8:28:46 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

I would love to see the faces of Schumer and Reid if Horowitz is right....and the grand jury is given this evidence and hands down indictments of Plame and Wilson!


6 posted on 07/16/2005 8:31:42 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: DaveTesla

I'm glad this is finally heating up.

The Wilson "investigation" was a fake investigation. There was no investigation.

His public findings were wrong, and he knew they were wrong when he wrote them. The president's remarks in the State of the Union speech were true, and Wilson knew they were true.

So we have a cabal of rogue CIA officers setting up a fake operation for the purpose of throwing an American election. So far no one in the press has been the least bit curious about that fact.

But it is a fact.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 8:31:51 PM PDT by marron
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To: DaveTesla

That building you have posted a photograph of - what is it? Thanks.


8 posted on 07/16/2005 8:32:15 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: DaveTesla

I want to know just how many people in the CIA are chummy with those listed in the Oil for Food scandal. I'm sure Plame isn't the only one messing with our Nation's security over this racket going on at the UN.


9 posted on 07/16/2005 8:33:12 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: DaveTesla

Horowitz is bracing. Nobody cuts to the truth more incisively. Great article, thanks for posting it.


10 posted on 07/16/2005 8:33:46 PM PDT by speedy
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To: DaveTesla

Great post bookmark!


11 posted on 07/16/2005 8:35:19 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: Ken522

Lubyanka KGB Headquarters, Lubyanka Square in downtown Moscow.


12 posted on 07/16/2005 8:36:18 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Exactly. Time to take the kid gloves off. They indict one of ours, then we indict one of theirs. If they want to play hardball, let's play hardball.


13 posted on 07/16/2005 8:36:23 PM PDT by balch3
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To: DaveTesla

bookmark


14 posted on 07/16/2005 8:36:23 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Ken522
Lubyienko Prison in Moscow. HQ for the old NKVD, then the KGB

Semper Fi

15 posted on 07/16/2005 8:38:33 PM PDT by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: DaveTesla
Great picture. . .Hillary's husband probably has more than a few fond memories of this place as well.

'Mandy Grumwold'. . .is Cooper's wife?

I just want to see the rest of the 'to do' list for these Lefties. . .as they try and destroy our Country; so as to bring a President down.

And a 'bada ping' for the rest of the story . . .

16 posted on 07/16/2005 8:39:01 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: speedy

David cuts to the chase, this COULD blow up in the faces of
all those so eager to hoist it on the White house door.


17 posted on 07/16/2005 8:39:17 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DaveTesla
The bi-partisan 9/11 commission concluded that Wilson's claims were false

The democrats STILL see him as a "great American." They still think Clinton was a good president!!!

18 posted on 07/16/2005 8:40:40 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: DaveTesla

Absolutely! Prosecute Plame for traitorous activities.


19 posted on 07/16/2005 8:41:40 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: DaveTesla; hellinahandcart

Good article.


20 posted on 07/16/2005 8:43:00 PM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: concerned about politics; All

Matt Cooper is Russert's only guest on Meet the Press tomorrow, and yet I bet there is not one NEW thing learned in that hour...

It will all be directed by Russert to hang it on Rove, and anyone else in the White House he can implicate.


21 posted on 07/16/2005 8:43:44 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth
I would love to see the faces of Schumer and Reid if Horowitz is right....and the grand jury is given this evidence and hands down indictments of Plame and Wilson!

I have been wondering the same thing. What if the SP's target is actually Joe Wilson and/or Valerie Plame? What a shocker to the left loonies that would be!

22 posted on 07/16/2005 8:46:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Txsleuth
Wilson is the ex Ambassador to Gabon! Oh my God...what pray tell is the crime that results in a sentence as Ambassador to Gabon? LOL Gabon LOL..my sides hurt!
23 posted on 07/16/2005 8:47:27 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: balch3
"If they want to play hardball, let's play hardball."

But what Repubs will really take of their 'nice gloves' and play hardball?

Seems most think that Newt. . Rush. . .David. . .the Repub 'et al' . . can tell the story; while the political big dogs keep what they think is a 'good face'.

There is a real treason going down here; but WHO will make the call that actually counts?

I think no Repub on the Hill. . .or in the White House. . .will dare or for others, bother. . .to go there.

24 posted on 07/16/2005 8:48:32 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: DaveTesla; marron
So we have a cabal of rogue CIA officers setting up a fake operation for the purpose of throwing an American election.

Great article! It seems that is exactly what did happen. David Horowitz has lined up all the facts and it's pretty undeniable.

I hope this comes back and bites them - Plame and Wilson, particularly - really, really hard. Dems usually manage to skate, but Plame and Wilson have perhaps gone a little too far this time.

25 posted on 07/16/2005 8:51:08 PM PDT by livius
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To: ncountylee

Can't you just see him walking up to someone at a swanky New York or Paris party and say, "Hello, I am Joe Wilson, Ambassador Joe Wilson, Amb. of Gabon."

and have the person just burst out laughing? Especially if it was a good-looking woman..

I heard that he was dating Plame while still married to his first wife, so I bet he used that line frequently, until he found someone as shallow as he is. LOL


26 posted on 07/16/2005 8:51:47 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: DaveTesla

Horowitz rules. It's about time someone stated it so succinctly...Plame and Wilson and traitors who should be jailed.


27 posted on 07/16/2005 8:55:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: DaveTesla
"Prosecute Plame"

I second that! (A few others need to be hammered also.)

"think about defending this country instead of its internal enemies."

Well, that is expecting a bit much from the Democrats.

28 posted on 07/16/2005 8:55:46 PM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: DaveTesla

Please, no offense to anybody, but this is ... well, let's just say it's unreasonable. I realize the author is trying to cheer up the base, rally the Republican troops, but his assertions, as I said, are not reasonable.


29 posted on 07/16/2005 8:56:22 PM PDT by RustysGirl
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later read


30 posted on 07/16/2005 9:01:22 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Txsleuth
and the grand jury is given this evidence and hands down indictments of Plame and Wilson!

Yeah, sure, when Sandy Berger does jail time, and pigs fly out of my butt.

31 posted on 07/16/2005 9:05:40 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Txsleuth
Matt Cooper is Russert's only guest on Meet the Press tomorrow, and yet I bet there is not one NEW thing learned in that hour...

Why not just have a Cooper/Grunwald and Wilson/Plame double-date?

32 posted on 07/16/2005 9:07:33 PM PDT by montag813
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To: RustysGirl
Knowing the political associations and Wilson's antiwar background how do even justify that statement?

So tell us...
What's unreasonable about prosecuting Plame / Wilson
for their treachery?
33 posted on 07/16/2005 9:08:03 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: RustysGirl

The world isn't "reasonable" any more.

Is it "reasonable" to believe that a teacher, that taught children with disabilities, would just strap a bomb on his back, and blow up a train one day in London? I don't think so, but it happened...

I don't think Horowitz' theory is any less reasonable than the one floated by the MSM, the dems and Joe Wilson.

And, remember Rathergate? Wouldn't you have thought it to be unreasonable that a major news network's anchor would report a story about the POTUS using falsified and forged documents? Sounds unreasonable to me, but it happened...

I understand where you are coming from, but David Horowitz is pretty "in the know" about the goings on in Washington, and among the "elite", as I am sure the Wilson's consider themselves...so, let's just say, until a better explanation comes along...

I won't discount his!


34 posted on 07/16/2005 9:10:34 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: montag813

I would love to see a double date on Timmy's show!

And then maybe Timmy could bring out Sandy Berger as a surprise guest!!! LOL


35 posted on 07/16/2005 9:12:24 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: IncPen
...an appeals court has found that no torture or illegality took place at Guantanamo and that the legal campaign led by communist supporter Michael Ratner in behalf of the Guantanamo terrorists is based on an even bigger lie than the Plame-Wilson sabotage.

I worked for one of Ratner's companies. Brother of Ellen, owns the Empire State Building and Mall of America as well as the largest lumber wholesale company in the world. Big clinton supporter and was at the WTC on 9/11. David Rox!!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

36 posted on 07/16/2005 9:13:14 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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To: Arkie2
How did that Republican driving the car on the right get in the picture?

Shhh, He was undercover.

37 posted on 07/16/2005 9:14:54 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: kristinn; tgslTakoma; BillF; Doctor Raoul; Justanobody; sauropod; BufordP; ...

Ping!


38 posted on 07/16/2005 9:16:13 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Spade = spade.)
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To: DaveTesla

Bump


39 posted on 07/16/2005 9:16:21 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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To: balch3
"...They indict one of ours, then we indict one of theirs. If they want to play hardball, let's play hardball."

Actually, I think the philosophy has been stated this way:

They indict one of ours, we send two of theirs to the morgue...

40 posted on 07/16/2005 9:18:38 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Txsleuth
"Wouldn't you have thought it to be unreasonable that a major news network's anchor would report a story about the POTUS using falsified and forged documents? "

This is why I posted a picture of KGB headquarters in
Moscow. This sort of stuff is right out or the KGB handbook.

BTW, The forged National Guard documents came from a
Kinko's where DNC operative David VanOs (also member of
CPUSA) wife holds her monthly meetings. Imagine that.

Nothing going on here folks......
Move along...
41 posted on 07/16/2005 9:19:46 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Mo1
It is truly amazing that these CIA types can even hold their head up in public after two massive intelligence failures. Instead of modestly fading into the woodwork Pflame and Schuyer are proclaiming that they are experts and Bush is wrong. Just ask the amb to Gabon LOL.

Also, I think it is interesting that Fitzgerald comes from the Southern District of NY. That's the office invetigating Clintons. I am telling you. She will not run.

42 posted on 07/16/2005 9:21:29 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Txsleuth
...so, let's just say, until a better explanation comes along...I won't discount his!

Do you have faith in the investigation being conducted by the Special Prosecutor, Fitzgerald? I mean, will his conclusions count as a better explanation?

Basically, I'm just waiting for the investigation to end, the report to be released, and any indictment(s) to be issued. Until then, I feel that people on all sides in the media are just huffing and puffing -- and spinning. Which, of course, is how they make their money.

43 posted on 07/16/2005 9:22:12 PM PDT by RustysGirl
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To: RustysGirl; nopardons

They are the truth which you and members of the left are about to find out. You should have read the Intelligence Committee report before making such a statement. Thanks for telling us your agenda on here. Add another one to the list!

BTW, Horowitz never writes something to make the base happy. Since when were we down about this -- liberals and RATs are about to get egg all over their face because Rove never was a target as the RATs and their compadres in the media are finding out.


44 posted on 07/16/2005 9:23:49 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: DaveTesla

I'm thinking that one of the reasons that Schumer had that press conference with Wilson on Thursday, asking for Rove's security clearance to be taken away, and forced to quit if he is the "leaker", is because by making such a big deal about this...

IF the Grand Jury does come down with indictments against Wilson and Plame, Wilson and Schumer will go back to the press and say that NOW Bush's Justice Department is punishing Wilson yet again, for coming forward and asking for Rove's resignation...

They have set this up, so that THEY will be be the victims still, instead of the United States people, and the CIC, George Bush.


45 posted on 07/16/2005 9:24:11 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth

He was such a wimp he had someone else approach the trailer trash for him.


46 posted on 07/16/2005 9:24:31 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: RustysGirl

As time goes on, the more skeptical I am about this being a fair and impartial grand jury. I think we have to be prepared to fight and fight hard for this presidency one the final report comes out. No surrender.


47 posted on 07/16/2005 9:25:31 PM PDT by balch3
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To: pbear8

Bookmark for repeated enjoyment.


48 posted on 07/16/2005 9:26:29 PM PDT by pbear8 (Prime Choice is back!!!!!!!)
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To: DaveTesla

That's what happens when you get someone on here that is not a Conservative nor a Republican Conservative from that statement.

I am a member of the base and I am certainly not down -- cannot wait for all the facts to come out and see the RATs running for cover. Rove is not a target of the investigation so who is Miller protecting -- Wilson and/or his wife perhaps? Or someone from the Clinton side like Grunwald?


49 posted on 07/16/2005 9:26:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: balch3

You are right about how "WE" would have to fight hard, if the grand jury doesn't do what it should...

because we KNOW that the MSM will NOT go after the Wilson's or their own compadres for what really happened.

This could end up being just another Sandy Berger case...and, just like the Clinton's nothing will happen to them.

So far, Kit Bond is the only Congresscritter (maybe Tom Delay), that has gotten angry about this...which doesn't bode well for them to want to get to the bottom of this, if it ends like the Sandy Berger case.


50 posted on 07/16/2005 9:31:00 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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