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London Bombers Have Ties to United States
ABC News.com ^ | July 15, 2005 | By BRIAN ROSS

Posted on 07/17/2005 7:18:12 AM PDT by mlc9852

One of the bombers in last week's attacks made a direct phone call to a suspected recruiter for an extremist group in New York.

Authorities told ABC News that records show Mohammed Sidique Khan, the eldest of the bombers now believed to be the field commander of the attacks, had called a person who is associated with the Islamic Center, a mosque in Queens, N.Y. Yet, a member of that mosque claimed they had no knowledge of the phone call.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: New York; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: islamiccenter; jihadinamerica; mohammedkhan; mosque; nyc; queens; ukmuslims

1 posted on 07/17/2005 7:18:12 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

"One of the bombers in last week's attacks made a direct phone call to a suspected recruiter for an extremist group in New York. "

why is this not surprising?


2 posted on 07/17/2005 7:22:06 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: mlc9852

The connection may have been found....but the two people on the phone are unknown unless the line is tapped.


3 posted on 07/17/2005 7:23:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mlc9852
a mosque in Queens

The sooner our gov't realizes that mosques are terrorist fronts and not "religion of peace" houses of worship, the better.

4 posted on 07/17/2005 7:26:26 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: bnelson44

It's not surprising at all. The US should close down every mosque in this country. If they don't like it, go live in Pakistan.


5 posted on 07/17/2005 7:27:04 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Mr. Mojo
"The sooner our gov't realizes that mosques are terrorist fronts and not 'religion of peace' houses of worship, the better."

Gets an "amen" from me.

6 posted on 07/17/2005 7:29:07 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: mlc9852
George Bush and the GOP-majority congress import Islam to this country at the brisk clip of about 100,000 alien muslims per year. Islam is the fastest growing religion in this country because our leaders are bringing in so many muslims from overseas.

To see where are immigration leftists like Ted Kennedy and George Bush taking us, look to London, Amsterdam, Malmo, etc.

These craven hack politicians are taking the USA to Eurabia.
7 posted on 07/17/2005 7:43:58 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: bnelson44

A deal should be made with the mafias in NY. Keep out the islamonazis and we'll look the other way on your book making operation.


8 posted on 07/17/2005 7:46:12 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: DogBarkTree
"A deal should be made with the mafias in NY. Keep out the islamonazis and we'll look the other way on your book making operation."

There is precedence for that.
9 posted on 07/17/2005 7:49:02 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: mlc9852
I believe that these terrorists are using our very thinking against us.

They hit London, and now everyone is focused on the "next" attack. The west wants everything here and now, we are sure that there are more attacks likely, here and now.

They carried out a successful operation, likely one that cauterized their network and leaves only enough information to keep the authorities busy chasing down myriad dead end leads that were left for that exact purpose.

Meanwhile, these coordinators have moved on, and are working on their next project in another area.
10 posted on 07/17/2005 7:50:30 AM PDT by mmercier (in what way princes must keep faith)
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To: bnelson44
Umm, maybe our bloody government should keep the Islamonazis out. Maybe George Bush and the GOP congress should stop importing 100,000 alien muslims yearly, as legal, green-carded immigrants.
11 posted on 07/17/2005 7:52:56 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: bnelson44

I lived in Japan for a while back in the 80's. A long time resident and a retired US soldier from WWII who decided to stay there told me one reason for the very low crime rate in Japan is because the organized crime (Yakuza)wont allow it. That keeps the governemnts hands clean too. Where's "a" John Gotti when you need him most?


12 posted on 07/17/2005 7:58:56 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: mlc9852
Folks, closing down every mosque in this country would not solve our problem. Plus, you have to remember that Islamo-Fascism is an EXTREMIST sect of Islam. To close down all mosques in this country is to deny those Muslims who do not seek to engage in their brethren's unholy villainy a place to worship. I propose we set up security at these places to ensure that no underhanded misdealings take place. I still agree with racial profiling, but completely removing Islamic worship centers will not solve our problem, they will simply find other venues from which to communicate (the Terrorists I mean).

Imagine for a moment that a crazed sect of Christianity decided to go arbitrarily murdering people who did not believe in the faith. These extremist Christians begin to utilize Christian churches for their communication centers. What sounds better to you: 1. Completely removing ALL Christian churches from society, or 2. Sending security into these places to ensure terrorist activities are not taking place? You cannot deny the right for people to gather and worship all over the U.S. based on the actions of an extremist minority...I am positive the great majority of "good" Christians would not allow their churches to be closed over a few "bad apples".

Oh yes, and Muslims have been VERY vocal in condemning the London bombings, at least around the area in which I live...Bloomington, Indiana. These "peaceful" Islam worshipers do not identify with these extremists just as most Christians would not identify with Christian extremists who would undertake the same road as the terrorists.

We must be careful how we choose to deal with this situation, lest we become as irrational as the terrorists. Blindly closing anything and everything Muslim is not the answer. Continuing to stay this irrational course of logic will only serve to justify our opposition's arguments that we conservatives are too extreme in our thought. I understand the feelings of rage and distrust we all harbor for Islamo-Fascists, but we can not allow that to blur our vision of doing what is right for all parties involved. And from personal experience, I know the great majority of you on Freerepublic are very intelligent and can appreciate the point I am making here without hurling insults and claims of ignorance my way. We conservatives can not completely close our minds to everyone and everything lest we reap what we have sown.
13 posted on 07/17/2005 7:58:59 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("“When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, don't wait until it has struck before you crush it)
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"bombers"..... interesting word. I thought they were terrorists?


14 posted on 07/17/2005 8:00:44 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: bnelson44
"A deal should be made with the mafias in NY. Keep out the islamonazis and we'll look the other way on your book making operation." There is precedence for that.

Actually, there is. Especially in large urban Italian American population centers, there is very little to no street crime. This takes a lot of job responsibility off the hands of local cops, and they reciprocate "in kind" to the local bosses.

15 posted on 07/17/2005 8:00:47 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The sooner our gov't realizes that mosques are terrorist fronts and not "religion of peace" houses of worship, the better


WE don't allow places that do money laundering of drug money, So why do we allow places that launder terrorist, seize these places and sell them just like the drug people do.


16 posted on 07/17/2005 8:15:52 AM PDT by Judge Roy
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

These "moderate" Muslims haven't been able to prevent anything. Are you sure they really want to?


17 posted on 07/17/2005 8:27:08 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

These "moderate" Muslims fear for their lives on taking action against the Islamo-Fascists...they are not in a position where they could be effective in countering the Islamo-Fascist surge...they realize that staying out of the way and as anonymous as possible is their greatest chance of survival in this "Muslim-suspicious" society...Some Muslims have tried to educate non-Muslims as to the TRUE religion of Islam, but have met with threats from our public...you do the math why they are fearful to stand out in our society...


18 posted on 07/17/2005 8:36:19 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("“When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, don't wait until it has struck before you crush it)
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To: mlc9852
"London Bombers Terrorists Have Ties to United States"
more appropriate headline...
19 posted on 07/17/2005 8:38:40 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: mlc9852

If it had not been for the Bush crack down on the muslim extremists, the bombing would have happened here.


20 posted on 07/17/2005 9:14:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
The main difference between a Christian church and an Islamic mosque is that the mosques will not allow non-islamics inside. This is how they are able to conduct secret planning sessions without fear of being overheard.

As a compromise, we could start 'bugging' these places at the very least.. if not internally, then externally. I would also track attendence.. but then the libs would have a cow. It's not illegal to track who goes where in the US... just keeping lists does have a bad precedent. It could be passed with a renewal concept every 2-3 years. This would allow the people to remove it easily enough if necessary.

21 posted on 07/17/2005 9:24:54 AM PDT by sten
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To: sten
The main difference between a Christian church and an Islamic mosque is that the mosques will not allow non-islamics inside. This is how they are able to conduct secret planning sessions without fear of being overheard.

Exactly. bump.

22 posted on 07/17/2005 10:14:37 AM PDT by millefleur (No KING but Jesus !)
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To: bnelson44
Why shouldn't they be hanging out in Queens or anywhere else for that matter? there's an islamic school in Queens that functions normally during the day but at night after prayers at the mosque (up the block) the fathers take their sons back to the school and teach them about martyrdom. Apparently the authorities cannot do anything about it because there have been no apparent links to any terrorists groups. maybe now, this will change things. It's too late in the game for us. these sleeper cells are all over the place, especially in nyc. I bet bin laden's hiding out right here in Long Island City. Unfortunately, we need to round up all illegals and ship them home, and bring back our troops from iraq and the rest of the middle east and wrap them around our boarders to keep us safe. i am a die hard liberal and I welcome all to this country if you are able to enter legally. what stops terrorists from driving cabs around manhattan with a trunk packed with explosives? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, NOTHING NOTHING.
23 posted on 07/18/2005 7:23:56 AM PDT by oohhbrother
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