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The Uranium Joe Wilson Didn't Mention
NewsMax ^ | 7/17/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/17/2005 2:21:36 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
What Bush needs to do is release video footage of the yellowcake uranium in Iraq.

No. What Bush needs to do is have the 500-tons of Iraqi yellow cake delivered to Joe Wilson's house. THAT would be a photo-op!

51 posted on 07/17/2005 5:22:53 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: F-117A
Well, it is good that you caught the typo about the date.

However, Wilson claiming that Cheney sent him to Niger is also on this site, a demonstration that Wilson LIED hen he said he never claimed this. So we still have some good information.

52 posted on 07/17/2005 5:23:14 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Karl Rove is Plame-proof.)
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To: Timeout
Unfortunately, the January, 2003 date appears to be a typo by the johnkerry.com DUmmies!

Look further down the page for the January, 2004 date for primary appearances.

source

53 posted on 07/17/2005 5:23:19 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: Just mythoughts
Unfortunately, the January, 2003 date appears to be a typo by the johnkerry.com DUmmies!

Look further down the page for the January, 2004 date for primary appearances.

source

54 posted on 07/17/2005 5:24:03 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: F-117A

Dang. I had sent it to 3 bloggers.
I've sent them a correction.


55 posted on 07/17/2005 5:28:54 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: kcvl
the Times cited Bush's claims about Saddam seeking uranium from Niger, which, the Times said, had been "pretty well discredited.

I wish to point out that Pres. Bush said, "Africa" not Niger in his speech. I keep seeing that mistake repeatedly. It is an inaccurate quote when Niger is used.

56 posted on 07/17/2005 5:30:07 PM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
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To: F-117A

The date doesn't change the fact that he was still claiming Cheney sent him to Niger. Of course, the campaign could have written it in 2004 from their own knowledge of press coverage.

But, that's a point I've been making all along. Even if Wilson was careful never to have said the words himself, the Kerry campaign and every Rat shill was all over the airwaves claiming Cheney had sent him to Niger. And he never corrected them until it came out that his wife had done it.


57 posted on 07/17/2005 5:32:50 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout; Shermy
Shermy appears to be the first to catch the typo.

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58 posted on 07/17/2005 5:34:44 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: rock58seg


Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address

snip


The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production.

Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide.

The dictator of Iraq is not disarming. To the contrary, he is deceiving.

From intelligence sources, we know, for instance, that thousands of Iraqi security personnel are at work hiding documents and materials from the U.N. inspectors, sanitizing inspection sites and monitoring the inspectors themselves.


http://tinyurl.com/51hb


59 posted on 07/17/2005 5:36:31 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: F-117A
That 2003 date appears to be a typo and should probably have been 2004. Easy enough to do early in the year.

Take a look at the bottom of the linked document. There's a January 13, 2004 date listed there.

60 posted on 07/17/2005 5:53:44 PM PDT by Bob
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To: JohnHuang2

I think you wrote a blog about this at the Finest.


61 posted on 07/17/2005 6:02:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: potlatch

:o)


62 posted on 07/17/2005 6:02:52 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: wagglebee

Luckily, Iraq didn't have even the small number of centrifuges necessary to get the job done.

Or did they?

The physicist tapped by Saddam to run his centrifuge program says that after the first Gulf War, the program was largely dismantled. But it wasn't destroyed.

In fact, according to what he wrote in his 2004 book, "The Bomb in My Garden," Dr. Mahdi Obeidi told U.S. interrogators: "Saddam kept funding the IAEC [Iraq Atomic Energy Commission] from 1991 ... until the war in 2003."




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/860674/posts

Aluminum centrifuges are old-tech, even by Iraqi standards. When United Nations inspectors went in after the Gulf War they discovered that Iraq had been trying to build centrifuges made from a much stronger specialty steel, known as maraging steel, and even carbon fiber, which is lighter than steel and can be even stronger (explaining why many yachts now have carbon fiber masts). Because these materials are so strong, centrifuges made from them can spin faster, making separation of the U-235 isotope many times more efficient.

The weapons inspectors destroyed the centrifuges they found, along with the rest of Iraq's enrichment infrastructure, but apparently Saddam is trying again. And as in the 1980s, he seems prepared to use old technologies if they are available. Back then, using declassified U.S. data, Saddam's scientists were also building calutrons, a method considered by the Manhattan Project but rejected because enrichment by that route took too long.


63 posted on 07/17/2005 6:09:51 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wagglebee

Bump.


64 posted on 07/17/2005 6:12:19 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("...there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda." - Thomas Kean, chairman, 9/11 Commission)
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65 posted on 07/17/2005 6:14:39 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: wagglebee

66 posted on 07/17/2005 6:15:01 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Logical me
Patience my friend. Lots of good stuff will come out in Saddam's trial. They are getting ready to announce the date.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444981/posts

With the country rocked by the insecurity, Iraq's chief investigating judge Raed Juhi said late last night a date for the trial of Saddam and his top aides would soon be announced.

He said charges had been brought against them in connection with a 1982 massacre.

The news came at the conclusion of the investigation into the killing of 143 residents of the village of Dujail, northeast of Baghdad, after Saddam survived an assassination bid there.

67 posted on 07/17/2005 6:16:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wagglebee

Centrifuges that could be used to separate high-grade uranium from natural uranium were found in a warehouse near Tuwaitha.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

Inspectors examine molten steel ingots. Equipment was melted in furnaces and turned into ingots to hide it from the inspectors.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

A drum of radioactive material discovered in Iraq in 1991.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

Bottles of specialized oil used in centrifuge for separating high-grade uranium from natural uranium.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

Containers for radioactive material discovered in a warehouse in Iraq in 1991.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

68 posted on 07/17/2005 6:19:58 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: F-117A

Thank you for the correction. Interesting place for a typo.


69 posted on 07/17/2005 6:21:16 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: wagglebee
Joe Wilson searching everywhere for yellow cake uranium!


70 posted on 07/17/2005 6:23:19 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Everything you have ever accomplished, has been done in spite of your limitations.)
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To: wagglebee

Action Team Inspectors examine an Electro Magnetic Isotope Separation (EMIS) machine. EMIS's are used to separate highly enriched uranium from natural uranium.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

The remains of facilities used for Iraq's clandestine nuclear weapons programme.
Photo Credits: Action Team 1991-1998/IAEA

71 posted on 07/17/2005 6:23:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dashing Dasher

You and your pictures :)


72 posted on 07/17/2005 6:24:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Just mythoughts
Joe never left the Hotel Bar in Niger.

He drafted his report in the Bar after about 5 Kaptain Morgans.

73 posted on 07/17/2005 6:25:16 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: wagglebee
Did you say "Yellow Cake"?


74 posted on 07/17/2005 6:28:21 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Everything you have ever accomplished, has been done in spite of your limitations.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Since I can't think of any plausible reason to post a picture of a scantily clad woman, you get a pass. -:)


75 posted on 07/17/2005 6:31:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

bttt


76 posted on 07/17/2005 6:31:37 PM PDT by petercooper (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice.)
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To: agincourt1415

I think you are correct.


77 posted on 07/17/2005 6:43:30 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: F-117A

Bookmark... Oh, this is getting so rich, we should all by stock in Pepto-Bismal, the Libs are going to be drinking it by the gallons.


78 posted on 07/17/2005 6:45:28 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: JWinNC

Unfortunately there was a typo in the original document.

See post#54.


79 posted on 07/17/2005 6:53:26 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: F-117A

'03, '04, doesn't make much difference... by his own admission he was a Kerry advisor back to mid '03, unless of course he is lieing again. The more we know about this the worse it looks for these folks. Rove wins again.


80 posted on 07/17/2005 7:06:08 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: JWinNC

July 30, 2004
http://www.everythingiknowiswrong.com/2004/07/joe_wilson_stil.html
Joe Wilson still with Kerry Campaign

According to the New York Post, Joe Wilson, the amateur "CIA operative" and vocal Bush basher who's Saddam-never-sought-yellow-cake-uranium-in-Niger story was completely discredited by the 9-11 commission report and the British government's Butler report, is still a Kerry advisor.

New York Post
July 29, 2004 -- DEMOCRAT John Kerry's campaign yesterday gave a ringing endorsement to Bush-bashing Ambassador Joe Wilson — even though a bipartisan Senate committee just found so many holes in his story that even his own wife won't back it up.

Wilson claimed President Bush lied about whether Saddam Hussein was seeking yellowcake uranium from Niger, and Wilson knew it because the CIA sent him there. The Senate report says, if anything, the truth is the opposite of what Wilson claimed.

But that doesn't seems to bother the Kerryites, who yesterday hailed Wilson's "integrity" and said he's still very much a part of the team that Kerry hopes will make him commander in chief. "Joe Wilson has served for many months as an informal adviser to the Kerry campaign and continues to do so," said Kerry foreign policy adviser Susan Rice.

In addition to Joe Wilson they have already indicated that similarly discredited Kerry advisor Sandy Berger is expected to come back into the fold.
San Francisco Chronicle
"Sandy Berger is my friend, and he has tirelessly served this nation with honor and distinction," Kerry said Tuesday. "I respect his decision to step aside as an adviser to the campaign until this matter is resolved objectively and fairly."
But...
Associates said they expected that he would probably try to rejoin the campaign after the FBI concludes an investigation that began in earnest in January, after the National Archives discovered that classified material Berger had reviewed was missing.
What can we learn from the fact that John Kerry has, as his most important national security advisors, these two bumblers (both of whom have been discredited by major bi-partisan reports in more than one country, and one who is under active investigation by the FBI for alleged theft of the most highly classified type of documents)? Just this: Kerry is not serious about national security.


81 posted on 07/17/2005 7:19:42 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: wagglebee

Thank God for NewsMax!

ABC News Links Bin Laden and Saddam

http://archives.warroom.com/abcnews-1999.mp3

Here's a video of the ABC News report:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/rm/cyber/2004/binladen061704/segment1.ram


82 posted on 07/17/2005 7:21:13 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: bitt

With shutters clicking and flashes popping, Wilson demanded anew that Rove be fired. "I made my bones confronting Saddam Hussein and securing the release of over 2,000 Americans in hiding in Kuwait," he said before a cluster of microphones beneath a portrait of George Washington. "Karl Rove made his bones doing political dirty tricks. This is not about Joe Wilson."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/14/AR2005071402023.html

'But Schumer, and Wilson, could not entirely resist the Republican bait. "I know that Karl Rove and his allies in the administration are eager to paint Ambassador Wilson as a politically motivated malcontent, but Karl Rove and the RNC accusing Joe Wilson of playing politics is like Homer Simpson telling Lance Armstrong he's out of shape," the senator fumed, with Wilson at his side.

When the questions inevitably turned to the GOP charges about Wilson's credibility and partisanship, Schumer continued, "It's Kafka-esque to turn the tables on this man," the senator said. "He served his country. I believe he was a Republican."'


83 posted on 07/17/2005 7:26:25 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: wagglebee; potlatch
Agent 99 and Maxwell Smart



84 posted on 07/17/2005 7:43:03 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Timeout

I thought he had said the VP's office sent him. I don't see how this one is inconsistent with what he's said.


85 posted on 07/17/2005 7:47:22 PM PDT by 1L
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To: JWinNC
Yeah, the Libs, at least the smart ones are realizing they have been HAD.

Its there own fault, this all brewed up because they were trying so hard to prove BUSH Lied.

Now, they find out Wilson and wifekyins had an agenda, she was Covert,HELLO, LOL, all the neighbors knew she worked at Langley.

86 posted on 07/17/2005 7:48:55 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: 1L
I thought he had said the VP's office sent him. I don't see how this one is inconsistent with what he's said.

No no. When he first came forward, he wrote and spoke in such a way as to leave no doubt that it was Cheney who sent him...but we haven't been able to find an instance where he actually said it. The reason we all remember it that way is because the Rats were all over TV and print saying it for him.

Then, when it became apparent his wife had sent him, he began declaring he had NEVER said Cheney sent him.

But, he had never done anything to counter the Rats' talking points.

87 posted on 07/17/2005 8:27:52 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: lepton; Bob; Grampa Dave; falpro

Credit these to falpro:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444877/posts?page=27#27

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444238/posts?page=255#255


88 posted on 07/17/2005 8:34:59 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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To: potlatch


Re-Ping.


89 posted on 07/17/2005 8:41:03 PM PDT by devolve (-------------------------------------------------)
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To: wagglebee

"And, UNSCOM and the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA, have known for years that Iraq had uranium concentrate, or "yellowcake" – about 550 metric tons, in fact – and have monitored its inventory in Tuwaitha through regular inspections. Iraq acquired it before the first Gulf war.

That's nothing new.

What's new is the claim that Hussein recently sought an additional 500 tons – a huge amount – from Niger.

The alleged attempted acquisition (couched in final presidential speech drafts as "significant quantities from Africa") was critical to the administration's case that Iraq "has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons," as Vice President Dick Cheney claimed just three days before the war.

It takes hundreds of tons of unrefined uranium to produce enough weapons-grade uranium to make a single nuclear bomb. In addition, the refining process requires thousands of gas centrifuges to separate the isotopes. These centrifuges, in turn, require tubing to make the casings for the rotors that spin inside them.

In a one-two punch, Bush in his State of the Union accused Iraq of not only aggressively seeking uranium from abroad, but also thousands of aluminum tubes for nuclear weapons.

The tubing charge is now also under dispute.

Last October, the CIA and other U.S. intelligence concluded Baghdad could make a nuclear bomb in a year or less – but only if it "acquires sufficient fissile material from abroad." The judgment was published in the recently declassified summary of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq weapons, roughly 80 pages of which is still secret (this is not the same report as the 25-page unclassified white paper the CIA made public on its website last October).

"Without such material from abroad," however, "Iraq probably would not be able to make a weapon until 2007 to 2009," the NIE report continues.

That's a big difference: one year away from a nuke with large uranium imports, or five to seven years without them.

I.C. Smith, a former senior FBI counterintelligence agent who last decade helped prepare NIEs as a member of the National Foreign Intelligence Board, says that without the uranium allegation, the five-to-seven year scenario was not sufficiently alarming to justify starting a war.

It's clear from another part of the NIE the White House knew an Iraqi agreement to purchase 500 tons or more of uranium would "shorten the time Baghdad needs to produce nuclear weapons" – if the deal were true, that is, and the CIA had serious doubts that it was."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33753

Why would Wilson mention the yellow-cake that Saddam already had and that the International Atomic Energy Agency had already been monitoring? The issue was whether Saddam was trying to acquire more of it in order to re-start his nuclear program. Besides, the 550 tonnes of yellow -cake that was in Iraq was of little use to him. It's not like it can be used as a WMD its self.


90 posted on 07/17/2005 9:48:52 PM PDT by Bravo411
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To: kcvl
That intriguing little detail is almost never mentioned by the big media, who prefer to chant the mantra "Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction" while echoing Joseph Wilson's claim that "Bush lied" about seeking more of the nuclear material in Niger.

The media has long history of forgetting things they have reported on in the past

I think it's call selective memory

91 posted on 07/17/2005 10:25:59 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: kcvl

Thank you for the confirmation.


92 posted on 07/18/2005 9:27:52 AM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
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To: wagglebee
The disgusting hypocracy of ALL of the MSM, FOX News included. Knowingly stringing the American people out with bad news.

The article:
Did the CIA “Out” Valerie Plame?

The Court Amicus Curiae Brief by the MSM:
MSM Amici Curiae Brief
93 posted on 07/18/2005 2:22:10 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: wagglebee
Why? It is no secret that there was yellowcake in Iraq. The stuff at al Tuwaitha had been tagged by inspectors and by the IAEA.

They had it before the sanctions. It is not a secret, and it is not news.

94 posted on 07/18/2005 2:26:50 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
They had it before the sanctions. It is not a secret, and it is not news.

Ask somebody who does not look at websites like this or listen to talk radio whether or not there was yellowcake uranium in Iraq. You will find out how few people are aware of this.

95 posted on 07/18/2005 4:45:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Just mythoughts
Looks like an oxymoron or two here
96 posted on 07/18/2005 4:50:01 PM PDT by pointsal
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